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I'd argue your play here much more closely resembles your depiction of your scum-meta than your town-meta. One might suggest you put in lots of effort early, until you realised you could get away with less.In post 747, Elements wrote:
My town game is much more reactionary and erratic than my scum game. That is why at one point I went 5 games in a row as town being a day 1 lim. Or something along those lines. I ain't fussed about people scumming me so I just do. Hence my vote generally bouncing around.In post 741, Battle Mage wrote:
what do you mean? so you're actually not playing to your town-meta here?In post 736, Elements wrote:my voting has been less jumpy than my normal town play this game I think
As scum I'm much more self-conscious of how other people see my posting. Hence putting more effort into them.
But I like that you didn't shy away from speaking to me in real time - scum can be hesitant to do so, especially if they are self-conscious about making errors.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
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Survived to the end and lost - 6
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there is a distinct lack of progression in RLotus' ISO. Started with townreads on RTP and Duchess...and they remain the top 2 townreads. and has been only really focussed on Italiano since a few days ago.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Survived to the end and lost - 6
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what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?In post 752, Elements wrote:I rlly need to have another completed scum gameShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
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I feel like you should've asked me before giving your own opinionsIn post 754, Battle Mage wrote:
what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?In post 752, Elements wrote:I rlly need to have another completed scum gameI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald- Battle Mage
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why?In post 755, Elements wrote:
I feel like you should've asked me before giving your own opinionsIn post 754, Battle Mage wrote:
what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?In post 752, Elements wrote:I rlly need to have another completed scum game
and i'll ask again for your opinion?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
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so I don't just piggy back of yoursIn post 756, Battle Mage wrote:
why?In post 755, Elements wrote:
I feel like you should've asked me before giving your own opinionsIn post 754, Battle Mage wrote:
what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?In post 752, Elements wrote:I rlly need to have another completed scum game
I was reading through and I see exactly what you mean. It's very consistent on every read. Even the post I gave town points to as a good take falls nicely into the rest of the reads with italiano and duchessand i'll ask again for your opinion?I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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I have been thinking this as well. It is very one dimensional.In post 753, Battle Mage wrote:there is a distinct lack of progression in RLotus' ISO. Started with townreads on RTP and Duchess...and they remain the top 2 townreads. and has been only really focussed on Italiano since a few days ago.YOUR AD HERE- Elements
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i think it's fairly a-typical of RLotus - in our last game, his reads fluctuated much more as town.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
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Yeah I mean my nulls haven’t done anything to warrant movement. Harumi and testa fell off the face of the earth, dunn and elements lurks as usual.
I will say i did waiver on my andre townlean, because reading testarossa town is absurd to me, but I liked his explanation on how he goes about day 1s, felt towny.
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i can confirm testarossa was town though, so that's somethingShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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winrate as scum: 78%
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I don’t think he should have been able to deduce that from her like 3 postsIn post 762, Battle Mage wrote:i can confirm testarossa was town though, so that's something- Battle Mage
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RLotus - can you explain Italiano posting this as scum?In post 681, Battle Mage wrote:
definitely feel the emotion here. happy to assume Italiano is locktown - I think Italiano-scum has more self-respect than to run this as a gambit.In post 454, ItalianoVD wrote:Re: 451 & 452
Well, you know, it might be better to vote me out then cause it's apparent I'm not gonna be of help to the town. I've been lazy man. All that stuff I do as town, I just didn't/don't feel like doing it this game, especially on Day 1. I don't know why, I just don't. Slots have been pinging me, but I just don't really feel like going in depth with it, hoping that gutreads would be enough. I know that's bad and not helpful, however, information can still be gleaned from my flip.
Another thing is I feel like everything I do and say is getting scumread and everything I answer is not good enough , and it feels like I'm just digging my grave deeper and deeper the more I post and interact. It's part of the game so it's cool, but it's also exhausting. If/when I do get to E1, I definitely won't hammer. I'm not gonna cutoff the discussion like that. And I'm not scum, I'm just bad townie this game.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
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It doesn't make a lot of sense for him to do this as town. Like, why doesn't he say yeah you're right about my meta but I'm town. He's trying to explain away why he hasn't been solvy and lacks his usual town fire, while also trying toIn post 764, Battle Mage wrote:
RLotus - can you explain Italiano posting this as scum?In post 681, Battle Mage wrote:
definitely feel the emotion here. happy to assume Italiano is locktown - I think Italiano-scum has more self-respect than to run this as a gambit.In post 454, ItalianoVD wrote:Re: 451 & 452
Well, you know, it might be better to vote me out then cause it's apparent I'm not gonna be of help to the town. I've been lazy man. All that stuff I do as town, I just didn't/don't feel like doing it this game, especially on Day 1. I don't know why, I just don't. Slots have been pinging me, but I just don't really feel like going in depth with it, hoping that gutreads would be enough. I know that's bad and not helpful, however, information can still be gleaned from my flip.
Another thing is I feel like everything I do and say is getting scumread and everything I answer is not good enough , and it feels like I'm just digging my grave deeper and deeper the more I post and interact. It's part of the game so it's cool, but it's also exhausting. If/when I do get to E1, I definitely won't hammer. I'm not gonna cutoff the discussion like that. And I'm not scum, I'm just bad townie this game.survivewith AtE (which I've noticed you tend to be susceptible to). No backbone that I normally see from him when he's town. He's just rolling over and dying.- Battle Mage
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i know what you're saying, but when I read it, I see it differently. I just finished a game with Italiano-scum and he is more of a leader than he used to be - I don't think Italiano-scum rolls over quite like that. You're right that I'm great at reading AtE.
my main worry with him is that he's not here. where is he??Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
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Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
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I think its a fact ur seeing red. Wanna walk through why you scumread them?In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.
Being wrong is also a reason one might have a resisted wagon.- Reformed Toxic Player
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i mean most of the talk is about how he's town, so would you really expect a wagon to build regardless of his alignment?In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%- RLotus
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Slightly for his questioning and gamesolvynessIn post 772, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:Do you townread GC btw -rllotus? - RLotus
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