Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 3.09

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-05-07 10:00:00).

execution

DkKoba [2]:

Anya, Andresvmb

Asteria [2]:

DkKoba, clidd

clidd [2]:

InsidiousLemons, Asteria

not voting [3]:

osuka, PookyTheMagicalBear, VFP

mod notes

~ andresvmb is v/la until tomorrow

flavour

[Anya]

asteria it'd really help if you linked posts when you gave your reasons on salsa

[Asteria]

we didn't know lemons or clidd's claims yesterday though so the t4 vote wasn't made with the knowledge we have now and you other reasons don't seem like reasons to think he's a wolf

unless i'm completely lost?

If clidd is being honest then at that point he knew out of the claims there was andante, koba, me, and himself (unclaimed) for town guns and that's impossible. So he was voting T3 with the knowledge that 1 scum has to be in the other 3 PR claims

[Asteria]

you understand there's 2 liars in the gun claims right?

Is that to me or anya?

[clidd]

Asteria said something very interesting.

I'll take a break to re-check something.

[Anya]

3900

[clidd]

"That" something, to be specific.

[Asteria]

Salsa/clidd:
-2245 has their first reaction to my claim where they told lemon's having a gun =/= mafia. Maybe I'm wrong here but I don't think that comes from someone knowing that there are 4 guns and 4 town gun claims (including herself)
-2248 Went back and forth on me as she followed Andante's reaction test thing on me
-2248 Thought one of me and Koba was fake because she thought I was a killing role
-2248 Made a statement about finding it hard to believe scum only have 1 gun and town have 3. This could be a way to cast doubt if she knows she also has a gun but I think it's a little misleading if she knows that
-2255 Told Andante she outed a "TRP (?)" Doesn't look like a sentence that comes from someone informed of having the 4th town gun as claimed
-[general statement] She really honestly seems to be solving from a stance of there being 3 TPR claims and she's doubtful that scum only have 1

this game is wild

why would you think a neapo has a gun

For some weird, indescribable, illogical, alien reasons (I don't know why, brain is completely shut for rl reasons), I was thinking gun indicates killer roles only

Quoting this because I don't think Salsa faked this. If Salsa genuinely thinks this then she isn't the detective unless she didn't realize she had a gun. But to think that gun = killing when we have the gunsmith andante claimed doesn't make any sense from someone with a PR

i parsed this as
weak vig shoots unprotected maf --> maf dies, vig lives
weak vig shoots protected maf --> maf lives, vig dies

reading the wiki page on "weak" tells me i am indeed being stupid

UNVOTE:

I find it hard to believe that

DkKoba

don't understand their own role or they didn't ask about it before to the mod if they genuinely didn't understand it.

To continue, I don't think Salsa says this right after misunderstanding her own role if she is a detective
-2608 Says that if VFP is town the possibility of there being scum between me and Koba makes more sense (it shouldn't just now be making more sense if salsa is a town gunholder too)

[Anya]

maybe that case is intricately embroidered enough that asteria wouldn't be able to fake it on a partner

[Anya]

and clidd's questioning of her earlier didn't look like they share a home either

ok 1 max wolf in asteria clidd

[Asteria]

Do you think my case on salsa/clidd makes sense? It really doesn't look like Salsa has a town gun

[Anya]

i've still got my sniper target on dkkoba

don't worry it's actually just a laser pointer so doesn't count as a gun

[Anya]

when salsa said andante outed a "TPR" who was she talking about?

[Asteria]

when salsa said andante outed a "TPR" who was she talking about?

Me. Andante never actually checked me but said she did and got a gun result on me

[Anya]

yeah that is weird but i dunno how much salsa had internalized what the gun stuff actually meant like i missed the 4 gun thing completely

her reaction to osuka and clidd being towny outweigh that stuff for her being a village dweller imo

[Asteria]

Yes but assuming you're VT it's fair for you to ignore the gun thing. I was more focused on it because it applied directly to me. And Salsa should have been the same way even if to a lesser extent but she wasn't at all

[Anya]

i forgot this game existed when i woke up lol hi

also is anyone buying this when dkkoba's been really active in the days before? i wouldn't it's not even on discount

[clidd]

I'm back, and no, my read hasn't changed yet.

[clidd]

But I would like to see opinions on Asteria's latest post sequence.

[DkKoba]

these clidd votes are garbage

[DkKoba]

And anya are you really using backwards logic to case me? Yeah i forgot about the game i was honest about that. Wanna bring out more NAI stuff?

[DkKoba]

Also ive played as a weak hider in the past i thought i understood how it worked plus its on the wiki that roleblocks make it not work but at the same time my brain was thinking abt the informed doc stuff

[DkKoba]

I'm quite confident clidd is our lying gun claim. Lemons has at least been consistently acting like they knew there were for sure too many gun claims, and not just that there probably are too many but it's still possible scum only have 1 gun. After clidd I'm not very confident between Koba and Lemons. Koba makes sense by mech, Lemons makes sense by play, clidd just doesn't make sense.

Like this is clearly trying to set up back to.back lims here

[Asteria]

No, it's me knowing there are two liars in the PR claims and trying to solve. We don't have to go for another in the PR pool after today if we arent confident

[Anya]

And anya are you really using backwards logic to case me? Yeah i forgot about the game i was honest about that. Wanna bring out more NAI stuff?

it's not backwards logic if you're a wolf you have incentive to make it look like you don't care that much and you'd forget about this game bc usually wolf games are on people's minds more