FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt - 2 Game Over

[Servant Archer]

Maybe, but we already have Avenger's true name.

You mean the other person that she has loudly been defending? lol

Spoiler:

THIS IS DUMB AF

WHY ARE WE MOVING TO ELIMINATE THE GLADIATOR

At least one between lancer/alter is scum for their hard push against avenger.

"Avenger has to be scum becaue that is not how I would use a gladiate so thats not how town woild"

Is literallt the entirety of the argument that two of you are making

Also, avenger waa null town, became more town when the gladiate happened, and is currently unquestionably town in my eyes after thr moon cancer flip.

[Servant Archer]

To be clear, the name thing is just me spit balling, because I really don't understand Ruler's takes

[Servant Beast]

I think the name thing has utility for scum and town. It can be used cleverly by either faction imo.

[Servant Archer]

I think the name thing has utility for scum and town. It can be used cleverly by either faction imo.

I was not trying to say that it was scummy or townie, it was just something I noticed. I would not be surprised if both alignments had abilities that interacted with names/attributes

1. This game heavily focuses around the fact that your class is known, but your specific servant's identity is not. Be aware that just is true of most stories, knowing one's myth means knowing one's weaknesses. Be careful when claiming or revealing information about your role. This aspect is majorly MORE important in the second running of the setup.

[Servant Beast]

I understood you archer, I was just saying that to add weight to it if Ruler was thinking that.

[Servant Avenger]

Weekend V/LA

I'll get on as I can.

[Servant Archer]

We have like 48 hours to decide on our elim
@Berserker, what are you thinking atm?

Can we get an updated VC

[Servant Berserker]

I'm feeling like foreigner is a solid vote option
don't feel good about eliminating ruler
saber is being voted for the incongruity between their claim and asserted role strength during the master selection phase, right? I see how that's scummy, but I kinda think there's also room for doubt since iirc there's some sort of thing where roles get upgraded if chosen for master? I don't think I quite get that whole deal yet

[Servant Beast]

Saber was arguing that they should get the master slot based on the ability they had. if they had an upgrade, they didn't share.

[Servant Archer]

saber is being voted for the incongruity between their claim and asserted role strength during the master selection phase, right? I see how that's scummy, but I kinda think there's also room for doubt since iirc there's some sort of thing where roles get upgraded if chosen for master? I don't think I quite get that whole deal yet

Cabd has a post where he says that Scum NP's get upgraded if one of them gets a master.

For a town player, all that happens is that their NP gets fully charged.

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Saber's NP is that he can limit the posting of one player. ---

With which he came out, guns blazing, claiming that he had "one of the strongest NPs in the game" and that we should give him the master, and that the scum team would be really afraid of giving him the master. He openly said that his NP was as good (if not better) then a cop result.

I find it hard to see a town player playing this way. When I look at his campaign, it really, really feels to me like the campaign the scum team would make Already, went into that before:

Saber

Saber's campaign for the master feels like the exact campaign a cautious scum team would make. Like I can imagine the planning conversation

Spoiler:

"How can we get the master"
"Well, one of us can claim we have an insanely powerful NP"

"But wait, what happens if I don't get chosen, won't they expect me to do something amazing later in the game?"

"I know, just say that it is only good in the early game"
"So okay, how does this sound:

My NP is one of the strongest in the game, if used correctly and early. It's totally weaksauce if used late and arguably detrimental.

"ahh, that's perfect."

I also stand by what I said in 213 -- Saber's worry there makes no sense coming from town. When would you ever be worried about this? ---I don't think town ever is, but it feels similar to what I bolded in the hypothetical conversation. Also, not a fan of their "town read everyone" read list 472

[Servant Archer]

Saber and Foreigner are the two players at the bottom of my scum reads right now, and I am on board for either

[Servant Berserker]

If a town Master is selected, the town Master + servant is revealed as an innocent child and becomes unkillable by ANY means until day two has passed.

The servant in that slot will additionally have their role modified to account for the additional support they now have

. Day 1 will become an double-elimination day and last for 240 hours (10 days) instead of 168 hours (7 days). (The first elimination WILL reset the vote count)

I have bolded the part that I'm referring to

[Servant Caster]

VOTE: Saber

Let's get going.

If this flips scum I think Beast/Avenger final 2 ?

[Servant Archer]

If a town Master is selected, the town Master + servant is revealed as an innocent child and becomes unkillable by ANY means until day two has passed.

The servant in that slot will additionally have their role modified to account for the additional support they now have

. Day 1 will become an double-elimination day and last for 240 hours (10 days) instead of 168 hours (7 days). (The first elimination WILL reset the vote count)

I have bolded the part that I'm referring to

I assumed that was to include the fact that they were IC'ed, and the fact that they gained the ability to give out * to other players.

So I think it is safe to assume that Saber's NP does not gain anything extra from getting the master; they clearly would have mentioned it when they explained why they fought for the master

I mean, also, looking at my own PM - it does not indicate any changes that would occur from getting the master.

[Servant Caster]

I was going over Beast's ISO because I was reviewing what the Saber voters were doing.

Like I don't understand this:

Which post do you think I was talking about that shielder referenced? Do you know why it bothered me?

This question is open to the general public as well.

Yes, I am deeply suspicious of all their posts. They are very suspicious and I suspect them.

Yeah, her simultaneously being aware and unaware of what's going on in recent times seems too convenient for me. Good catch.

Yes, good catch AE, Berserker. I'm really impressed.

Why does Beast say this about someone who according to him he is informed of as being innocent? It feels like some made up bullshit to me.

[Servant Caster]

actually scratch that this is just him being sarcastic?

>.>

my memory is really not great this game :<

[Servant Archer]

Takes 7 votes

Saber (5) : Beast, Rider, Archer, Assassin, Caster

E-2

[Servant Beast]

actually scratch that this is just him being sarcastic?

>.>

my memory is really not great this game :<

lol

[Servant Beast]

If a town Master is selected, the town Master + servant is revealed as an innocent child and becomes unkillable by ANY means until day two has passed.

The servant in that slot will additionally have their role modified to account for the additional support they now have

. Day 1 will become an double-elimination day and last for 240 hours (10 days) instead of 168 hours (7 days). (The first elimination WILL reset the vote count)

I have bolded the part that I'm referring to

Yes, but they weren't arguing from the stand point of what they might get. Only what they had and post reveal they haven't changed from that argument.

[Servant Berserker]

actually scratch that this is just him being sarcastic?

>.>

my memory is really not great this game :<

lol

why is that your only response to that whole query?

[Servant Beast]

Because I already explained it in an old post and I thought the sarcasm was overkill, so I thought it was kinda funny that they couldn't read tone there.
I don't really think them misunderstanding that, is immediately AI to me. So, I just decided to tease them, it's not meant to be mean spirited if that's what you're asking.

[Servant Berserker]

yeah that tracks then

[Servant Alter Ego]

I'd like to give Saber a chance to post their final reads if they're town.


I'm conflicted because I'm not sure if Saber is the best target anymore, as my initial reasons for suspecting them might not have actually been that great, but I do have some doubts there. The more I think about it the more I think Moon Cancer's read flip there

could

be a bus, although he said so little about it it's hard to say with much confidence it does look like a bus. Still, I'd expect a scum in his bottom 3 reads in his second list and Foreigner looks better than Saber to me. But I still don't really feel confident in the flip for whatever reason.

[Servant Beast]

I'm pretty much where Archer is at in terms of where I wanna vote.

Foreigner I suspect is using their anemic bus to shore themselves up. But even with that, they're being anemic.

[Servant Lancer]

I'm not super confident that saber will flip scum either, but I highly prefer saber elim over foreigner. Foreigner appeared to be the designated scum counterwagon, and shouldn't be on the table after moon cancer scumflip.