Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Morning Tweet]

Ah, it seems i was unable to get an extension on my college assignments

So I have just today to do them all :o

My apologies, I won't have time until much later most likely.

If you want to elim me early thats fine,

my preferences as of right now are like Tanner>>>>Pooky>>Ydrasse>>>>Flea>>Chara>>>>>>>>>clidd

[Amy Dunne]

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.

[Flea The Magician]

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.

occams

...

razor.

[Flea The Magician]

How do you solve the problem presented by WIFOM?

You either drink or you leave and accept what happens either way.

Glug glug time.

[Chara]

i'm more confident in Tanner being town than Ydrasse right now.

also if you're trying to say that scum you wouldn't be being scumread like you are now, i'm not buying it at all. Yggdrasil just happened.

Tbf Chara, I tried to read fae’s ISO in that and just gave up with a splitting headache. Faer almost entire ISO in that game was spam and nonsense.

I think Royalty is a much better comparison.

IOW, Flea was flaming obvscum in Yggdrasil but definitely not in Royalty.

i'll take your word for it, it's rare i can get anything substantial out of metaing a game i wasn't in. i only brought up Yggdrasil because Flea was getting scumreads in it. fae did convince me out of faer being scum in that game but that was me underestimating faer, and also not trusting myself. faer play here is definitely nothing like Yggdrasil.

[Amy Dunne]

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.

occams

...

razor.

It means that at least one - if not both of them are town, because we were meant to believe him because of Infinity/Nakata flips but why would he tell us the entire scumteam?

Yin knew about the reveal obviously which is why he’s the one that wound up detonating Ircher and not Nakata.

[Chara]

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

there are no worlds where that happens. scum Tanner gets flipped, do you really think the next thing that happens is i get sentenced?

[Amy Dunne]

i'm more confident in Tanner being town than Ydrasse right now.

also if you're trying to say that scum you wouldn't be being scumread like you are now, i'm not buying it at all. Yggdrasil just happened.

Tbf Chara, I tried to read fae’s ISO in that and just gave up with a splitting headache. Faer almost entire ISO in that game was spam and nonsense.

I think Royalty is a much better comparison.

IOW, Flea was flaming obvscum in Yggdrasil but definitely not in Royalty.

i'll take your word for it, it's rare i can get anything substantial out of metaing a game i wasn't in. i only brought up Yggdrasil because Flea was getting scumreads in it. fae did convince me out of faer being scum in that game but that was me underestimating faer, and also not trusting myself. faer play here is definitely nothing like Yggdrasil.

Faer ISO in that game is pretty much unreadable. I know I couldn’t.

I’m beyond amazed how fae did that. There isn’t a damned thing in the brief part of that ISO I skimmed that was even remotely town.

[Chara]

Ah, it seems i was unable to get an extension on my college assignments

So I have just today to do them all

My apologies, I won't have time until much later most likely.

If you want to elim me early thats fine,

my preferences as of right now are like Tanner>>>>Pooky>>Ydrasse>>>>Flea>>Chara>>>>>>>>>clidd

good luck on your assignments Tweetie!

[Tanner]

i find it really funny how both flea and amy are apparently using occams razor but arriving at the opposite conclusions

idk how much time in the day there is left but i would be interested in hearing tweetie's take on ydrasse before we spare her if possible (or rather, what tweetie thinks of pooky's case on ydra)

[Tanner]

what is the yggdrasil game everyone keeps talking about?

[Amy Dunne]

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

there are no worlds where that happens. scum Tanner gets flipped, do you really think the next thing that happens is i get sentenced?

I said it first.

[Chara]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86704

that's Yggdrasil if you want it, i don't think it bears too much relevance to this game beyond being my only experience with Flea scum.

[Flea The Magician]

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.

occams

...

razor.

It means that at least one - if not both of them are town, because we were meant to believe him because of Infinity/Nakata flips but why would he tell us the entire scumteam?

Yin knew about the reveal obviously which is why he’s the one that wound up detonating Ircher and not Nakata.

Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor, or the principle of parsimony or law of parsimony is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity", sometimes inaccurately paraphrased as "the simplest explanation is usually the best one."

We have been - through an extended process of elimination - given the solve to the game.

I have pointed out my own experiences with this lil dilemma.

and while town blames me for their incoming loss, I will laugh soundly at all of you.

I will not vote Tanner.
I will not vote Chara.
and I most certainly will not be dignified.

[Amy Dunne]

Friend clidd has been deceived into voting Nakata by scum Amy Dunne/Morning Tweet/Infinity 324/Robert M Hunter. Nakata does not think they are all scum, but Nakata thinks there may be a lot of scum in them. You should help Nakata by voting Morning Tweet or Amy Dunne so that we can eliminate scum today!

Flea is not entirely convinced of Comrade Nakata, and is leaning towards rival Nakata, if faer entirely honest.

Friend Flea shouldn't vote for Nakata, Nakata is not a baddie and

scum will win if they are able to eliminate friends like Nakata

just because Nakata doesn't speak like everyone else!

This post cracks me tf up on reread.

[Amy Dunne]

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.

occams

...

razor.

It means that at least one - if not both of them are town, because we were meant to believe him because of Infinity/Nakata flips but why would he tell us the entire scumteam?

Yin knew about the reveal obviously which is why he’s the one that wound up detonating Ircher and not Nakata.

Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor, or the principle of parsimony or law of parsimony is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity", sometimes inaccurately paraphrased as "the simplest explanation is usually the best one."

We have been - through an extended process of elimination - given the solve to the game.

I have pointed out my own experiences with this lil dilemma.

and while town blames me for their incoming loss, I will laugh soundly at all of you.

I will not vote Tanner.
I will not vote Chara.
and I most certainly will not be dignified.

How is this Occams Razor?

Now had Yin not actually detonated Ircher, your theory would be more believable

[Flea The Magician]

I need to make scoreboards for how often i saw things.

Yin is singlemindedly playing towards scum wincon - and has been from the start.

[Morning Tweet]

I need to make scoreboards for how often i saw things.

Yin is singlemindedly playing towards scum wincon - and has been from the start.

So why would Yin tell us all four scum as opposed to just two?

Also..... why are you acting like scum is going to win cause we're not listening to you? If Tanner flips scum, we are never flipping Chara lmfao. So.. what are you worried about exactly

[clidd]

lol i use it too clidd, i just found it funny coming from someone like you who gives off such a serious and formal vibe.

and uh yeah, another nightkill would be ridiculous. i'm just brainstorming the reasons that mason pt has for existing, because it doesn't seem like it's very useful right now. and my guess is that things don't just exist for the sake of it.

I've been trying to lessen that sense of seriousness a bit, as it's a feature that came about because of the language barrier, but yeah, I can imagine why that would sound funny.

Do you think this says anything about my alignment here?

[Amy Dunne]

I need to make scoreboards for how often i saw things.

Yin is singlemindedly playing towards scum wincon - and has been from the start.

Absolutely no one is disagreeing with this.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tweetie can you please convince me of ydra-town because I am not getting there on my own :<

[clidd]

@clidd - do you remember why you didn't vote Ircher day 1?

The exact reasoning I don't remember anymore, but my vote change was due to 2 factors:

- Difficulty to understand Ircher's behavior within a scum!Ircher mentality and what benefit it would have for him;
- Extremely suspicious behavior from Infinity + periodic suggestive evidence that reinforced the scum!Infinity thesis;

[clidd]

Ah, it seems i was unable to get an extension on my college assignments

So I have just today to do them all

My apologies, I won't have time until much later most likely.

If you want to elim me early thats fine,

my preferences as of right now are like Tanner>>>>Pooky>>Ydrasse>>>>Flea>>Chara>>>>>>>>>clidd

It's sad that you have me so low on your PoE judging from past experiences where you read me correctly even with almost everyone scumreading me, but I understand that my current post flow is too low and with weird interactions to justify any ratings above the null or null-scum margin.

[Flea The Magician]

I need to make scoreboards for how often i saw things.

Yin is singlemindedly playing towards scum wincon - and has been from the start.

Absolutely no one is disagreeing with this.

Then why is it being challenged.

You are breaking your own logic here.

[clidd]

Flea's theory doesn't seem likely to me considering that we wouldn't just solve the game by asking those questions, but the process fae's using doesn't sound malicious, though the persistence isn't pleasant.

Need to see a flip to judge better.