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[Dwlee99]

And the unvote on Osuka was because 1.) No one was willing to listen to me except for VFP!slot (thanks if you're spectating btw) and 2.) Cyrus was talking about killing me with the babysitter shot. Like in that game state the "masons" were both pushing Anya, calling me her scum buddy, then Cyrus replaced into one of my biggest town reads and then promptly decided to go "yes I am this babysitter vigilante abomination" and threatened to use it on me.

[ChaosOmega]

You're creating intent where there isn't any. I wasn't "trying to defuse the wagon," I was figuring out my read.
VOTE: Chaos
I can't remember if I'm voting here already. This push isn't good faith.

Pedit: I was the one bringing it up D4. Did you even bother reading the posts I quoted or any of the context? STD was just sitting on the wagon, sure, but he wasn't casing Titus or doing anything to push her elimination. And then when Gamma is at E-1 and it seems like he is gonna be hammered I unvote and case Titus.

And here's what you posted right after that:

Okay so are we still going with killing rathe here. I'm gonna try to look for Rathe crumbing the PT cop result.

Doesn't seen like you felt really strong about that Titus push, you wanted to jump off of it immediately.

[Dwlee99]

Pretty much all of day two in my memory is being shouted down by people trying to murderize Anya and then I finally felt like I made progress and the Cyrus thing happened. It was awful.

[ChaosOmega]

VOTE: Dwlee

[Gamma Emerald]

What tell? Im good with you checking chaos fwiw.

Dk has activity read me in the past despite me stating it’s not a valid method atp
This game is the proof of my previous statement

[ChaosOmega]

And the unvote on Osuka was because 1.) No one was willing to listen to me except for VFP!slot (thanks if you're spectating btw) and 2.) Cyrus was talking about killing me with the babysitter shot. Like in that game state the "masons" were both pushing Anya, calling me her scum buddy, then Cyrus replaced into one of my biggest town reads and then promptly decided to go "yes I am this babysitter vigilante abomination" and threatened to use it on me.

Osuka was at L-2 when you jumped off, you can't say with a straight face no one was listening to you about it, there was numerous support for it, you jumped off to try and kill the momentum.

[Dwlee99]

There you go assigning intent and you're just full of shit

[ChaosOmega]

So why unvote? Because your feelings got hurt and you thought Cyrus was going to target you? Don't see how those correlate.

[Dwlee99]

and then I finally felt like I made progress and the Cyrus thing happened.

So you can read this

[Dwlee99]

Being killed by a Cyrus vig shot would be absolutely horrendous.

[Dwlee99]

I actually can't imagine a worse end to a game

[ChaosOmega]

Again, this doesn't correlate. You thought you made progress on getting the lim onto osuka from Anya, and then Cyrus said he's going to target you. So you said fuck it, I'm going to now unvote to undo what I thought was right because I'm bummed that I'm going to die. Did you want Anya to die after the Cyrus thing?

[Dwlee99]

No, I didn't. I was considering if I was on the completely wrong path because slots I town read (Cyrus + the masons that had softed day 2) were telling me 1. I'm wrong on Anya 2. I'm scum for being wrong on Anya 3. I'm getting killed that night (which clearly would have happened considering Cyrus got killed) 4.) My fourth is just that DGB was no fun to interact with this whole game

[Dwlee99]

You know what I do as scum there? I power drive Osuka into the ground so people can't point to it and be like "oh it was just a soft bus blah blah." I go full LLD if I'm scum there diffusing the wagon on Anya. I wouldn't try to break deepwolf for fucking Osuka of all people.

[Taco Hemingway]

Dwlee I don't care how wrong you think Chaos is, they are blatantly town here.

[DkKoba]

Dwlee I don't care how wrong you think Chaos is, they are blatantly town here.

sorry this is me lol, alt slip

[Gamma Emerald]

DkKoba all I can say is I’m glad you’ve chosen THIS game to TRULY burn that tell. Because you’re dead wrong.

more interested in your explaination of your actions on the day titus was limmed and your thought processes around your actions wrt titus.

Here’s my full run-down of what happened for me that day phase
First, the wagon on me, which kinda made me unsure of how to proceed because the mech spec behind the wagon on me felt ill-formed but I couldn’t come up with an articulated reason as to why, making it feel impossible to fight back
Then at one point a few good points against Titus were brought up and I’d already figured Titus was the one person within my pool who could be scum and not feel they should kill me to not get checked, so I voted Titus
I then unvoted Titus after T3’s behavior had me doubting things which resulted in my confidence Titus was scum dropping to about zero, at which point I worked myself through my T3 paranoia
At that point I still felt weird about re-joining the Titus wagon, so I never voted there again. I feel like that should be an anti-partner tell because it would probably have made more tactical sense as scum to stick out the wagon

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee I don't care how wrong you think Chaos is, they are blatantly town here.

All of their reasoning is ass-backwards. They are making reasons to reach a conclusion, rather than forming a conclusion on sound reasoning.

[Dwlee99]

votecount 1.12

Dunnstral (9) :

ChaosOmega - Dwlee99 - petapan - Dragon Of The West - DrippingGoofball - Save The Dragons - Vaxkiller - T3 - Nero Cain

Execution

ChaosOmega (2) :

Anya - Titus

DrippingGoofball (2) :

ssbm-Kyouko - VFP

Nero Cain (1) :

Rathe

Rathe (1) :

Osuka

Osuka (1) :

Andresvmb

Not Voting (1) :

dunnstral

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And you know I've seen town be wrong before, of course. Like terribly wrong for terrible reasons. But at least they believed in it. Chaos reads like he has absolutely zero real belief in this push.

[Dwlee99]

Q+ cache once again zz

[Dwlee99]

Again, this doesn't correlate. You thought you made progress on getting the lim onto osuka from Anya, and then Cyrus said he's going to target you. So you said fuck it, I'm going to now unvote to undo what I thought was right because I'm bummed that I'm going to die. Did you want Anya to die after the Cyrus thing?

Also thinking about this this morning, the above post feels awful because it makes me think Chaos isn't reading the game because I had already quoted earlier in the thread the exact interaction I had with VFP after I had unvoted.

"Did you want Anya to die after the Cyrus thing" is something that I answered for VFP day 2, AND quoted last day phase.

[Dwlee99]

I guess Dwlee is happy for us to go back and lim Anya over Osuka at this point?
Otherwise I don't get the unvote.

I guess Dwlee is happy for us to go back and lim Anya over Osuka at this point?
Otherwise I don't get the unvote.

I'm just super apathetic right now. If Cyrus is targeting me I'm dead tonight anyway and I don't think anyone cares to listen to me. DGB's day play should be getting it thrown out a window but apparently we have a clear on the slot and I don't know who is scum because I feel like engagement levels with the game are nonexistent.

Also just read this interaction

It was actually this day phase, even worse. I just think Chaos is not really reading to try to sort, but instead wants to cherry pick things I've said. Why does Chaos ask me a question that if he had common sense he would know the answer to, but also one that was quoted this day phase?

[Dwlee99]

And the fact that DGB/Titus if town are just being extremely obtuse here is so frustrating for me, which is why I am honestly hoping DotW/DGB are just gambiting masons or something because it makea this game make more sense. I know peta was saying "do you think scum plays like that" referring to them just all buddying and pushing together in their town block but honestly maybe? I don't see anything to townread anyone in those slots by day play, only the fact that we have a supposed mech clear in there.

And the Nero kill makes perfect sense now because he was one of the only people keeping the game going and was one of the only people who would be catching anyone. Maybe I need to reread day one to refresh my reads but I just feel like no move here is correct.

I mean, I've been listening to you.

Yea I appreciate that but honestly you should only do it wrt the Anya situation because the only thing I feel confident in this game is that Anya is telling the truth when she says she got no result on Peta because the progression is exactly like someone who was asked "make sure you read the right thing in your pm" and they said "o I misread."

And honestly maybe Anya is a scum voyeur or something stupid like that but is Gypyx that mean to us?

Wanna point out also that Titus' logic is making zero sense and she has just been death tunneling this Anya/kill neighbors thing. I know that she can do it as town, but the way she is going about it makes me feel super bad about her slot this game. Like "how could we ever trust her about the no result if she lied about neighbors" is such a terrible line of reasoning and feels made up.

And for further context on that VFP interaction here are the next couple of posts from the interaction I said people should look into.

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: no lim

No lim today, lim Gamma tomorrow?
PoE: Chaos, Kyo. If Gamma flips traitor then add STD and Andres to PoE

[ssbm_Kyouko]

We still have a no lim but it should come tomorrow I think so we reduce the poe by 1 today and by another overnight with Gamma's check