mini normal 2226; who won

[DkKoba]

Chaos's claimed role is super weak in my opinion. It has 1 player in the entire game it can inno, and 1 player in the entire game that it can guilty. And then 10 players that it gives a "fuck if I know" result.

It feels weird that I am somewhat doubtful of the claim because of how shitty it is, and also the fact that it still managed to land on both its inno and its guilty already, to then see you sitting there arguing that it is doubtful because the town is too powerful

Maybe I am just dense (and I am still not gonna take the time to run models lol)

+1

Why is Chaos informed when there’s already an informed in the OP?

this is a stupid question

[DkKoba]

im turning on harsh koba mode, my patience is expired.

[MathBlade]

if math is scum, he is traitor scum and protecting NM main scum imo.

i dont see a world where mathblade main scum forgets to submit NK and then spends the entire day hard defending the person most likely to be blamed for "forgetting to submit the NK"

I am not scum but this is the first thing I agree with for a while.

If I am scum I woulda killed Titus last night. Just sayin

[MathBlade]

Chaos's claimed role is super weak in my opinion. It has 1 player in the entire game it can inno, and 1 player in the entire game that it can guilty. And then 10 players that it gives a "fuck if I know" result.

It feels weird that I am somewhat doubtful of the claim because of how shitty it is, and also the fact that it still managed to land on both its inno and its guilty already, to then see you sitting there arguing that it is doubtful because the town is too powerful

Maybe I am just dense (and I am still not gonna take the time to run models lol)

+1

Why is Chaos informed when there’s already an informed in the OP?

this is a stupid question

It’s really not

[Aristeia]

It’s also a path to victory for town if scum no kill every night.

Play shouldn’t be balanced around that.

There has to be a remotely probable path to victory.

I mean I've literally shown you a game where scum won in a sweep where the town had very similar roles to this game except town also had an extra IC and neighbors too so I don't really understand how you think its impossible to win.

Also the debate is about what Mastina will design, not whether such a setup is balanced. Balancing setup is a postgame discussion, I think it's fairly clear the claimed setup falls well within Mastina's meta.

[DkKoba]

no it really is

do you want me to dunk on it ?

[MathBlade]

It’s also a path to victory for town if scum no kill every night.

Play shouldn’t be balanced around that.

There has to be a remotely probable path to victory.

I mean I've literally shown you a game where scum won in a sweep where the town had very similar roles to this game except town also had an extra IC and neighbors too so I don't really understand how you think its impossible to win.

Also the debate is about what Mastina will design, not whether such a setup is balanced. Balancing setup is a postgame discussion, I think it's fairly clear the claimed setup falls well within Mastina's meta.

Town threw that game so I mean scum won because town threw.

So I mean I win no matter what so it’s best i continue the argument so MS gets better since like I don’t have to try.

[DkKoba]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86324

this game had global informed info AND an informed gunsmith.

designed my mastina.


even more confirms chaos as legit lol


you';re just scum who's venting about the unfortunateness of trying to big brain a mastina setup

[MathBlade]

no it really is

do you want me to dunk on it ?

Go for it.

[Titus]

if math is scum, he is traitor scum and protecting NM main scum imo.

i dont see a world where mathblade main scum forgets to submit NK and then spends the entire day hard defending the person most likely to be blamed for "forgetting to submit the NK"

I am not scum but this is the first thing I agree with for a while.

If I am scum I woulda killed Titus last night. Just sayin

One of my theories is you're a traitor.

[MathBlade]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86324

this game had global informed info AND an informed gunsmith.

designed my mastina.


even more confirms chaos as legit lol


you';re just scum who's venting about the unfortunateness of trying to big brain a mastina setup

Lol skimmed the PR list

How did town lose that lmfao?

[Aristeia]

If I am scum I woulda killed Titus last night. Just sayin

ITT Mathblade says things to his scum buddy that he can't say in his PT anymore because umlaut is dead

[MathBlade]

if math is scum, he is traitor scum and protecting NM main scum imo.

i dont see a world where mathblade main scum forgets to submit NK and then spends the entire day hard defending the person most likely to be blamed for "forgetting to submit the NK"

I am not scum but this is the first thing I agree with for a while.

If I am scum I woulda killed Titus last night. Just sayin

One of my theories is you're a traitor.

Then prove it.

Elim me. Prove the setup is busted. I flip town and y’all win no matter what.

Who cares?

[MathBlade]

If I am scum I woulda killed Titus last night. Just sayin

ITT Mathblade says things to his scum buddy that he can't say in his PT anymore because umlaut is dead

ITT I already said that and no one cares b/c I am town.

[Lukewarm]

It is after 2 am, so I am off to bed. Maybe sleeping on it will help me decide :/

[Aristeia]

if you're town why can't you just be wrong and NM forgot to put in his kill order at night?

who do you think would decide to "nokill" to frame cowman?

[MathBlade]

VOTE: MathBlade

Here you go I am helping.

Seriously the game is unlosable.

[MathBlade]

if you're town why can't you just be wrong and NM forgot to put in his kill order at night?

who do you think would decide to "nokill" to frame cowman?

Anyone who knows Not Mafia.

[Titus]

if math is scum, he is traitor scum and protecting NM main scum imo.

i dont see a world where mathblade main scum forgets to submit NK and then spends the entire day hard defending the person most likely to be blamed for "forgetting to submit the NK"

I am not scum but this is the first thing I agree with for a while.

If I am scum I woulda killed Titus last night. Just sayin

One of my theories is you're a traitor.

Then prove it.

Elim me. Prove the setup is busted. I flip town and y’all win no matter what.

Who cares?

For someone who is apathetic, you're sure up late and passionate. Stop the apathetic egghead routine and read people by behavior.

[Aristeia]

Mathblade: This setup is unloseable if town don't throw!


Also Mathblade: I'll commit suicide, lets vote me out.

[Lukewarm]

if you're town why can't you just be wrong and NM forgot to put in his kill order at night?

who do you think would decide to "nokill" to frame cowman?

I think that the titus theory is that the nokill was to actually chaos hoping to get a false inno on himself?

Which has nothing to do with our resident miltank

[MathBlade]

Mathblade: This setup is unloseable if town don't throw!


Also Mathblade: I'll commit suicide, lets vote me out.

Yes.
Because elimming me as I am in the PoE is protown.

It proves the setup is busted and we win no matter what or there’s deep wolves win win

[Titus]

Mathblade: This setup is unloseable if town don't throw!


Also Mathblade: I'll commit suicide, lets vote me out.

[Aristeia]

It proves the setup is busted and we win no matter what or there’s deep wolves win win

how does eliminating you prove the setup is busted?

[MathBlade]

if math is scum, he is traitor scum and protecting NM main scum imo.

i dont see a world where mathblade main scum forgets to submit NK and then spends the entire day hard defending the person most likely to be blamed for "forgetting to submit the NK"

I am not scum but this is the first thing I agree with for a while.

If I am scum I woulda killed Titus last night. Just sayin

One of my theories is you're a traitor.

Then prove it.

Elim me. Prove the setup is busted. I flip town and y’all win no matter what.

Who cares?

For someone who is apathetic, you're sure up late and passionate. Stop the apathetic egghead routine and read people by behavior.

I have and determined long as we continue in the PoE we win or prove Chaos scum.
Chaos town Gamma has a gun, elim Gamma.

Gamma town we still win because of confs.

Or we stick with the same PoE and win that way.

I just happen to be in that PoE