Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[RH9]

EBWOP

Playstyle favor please. I don't know if anyone else would agree, but when you ebwop can you either bold or underline what you edited or do something to distinguish what the edit was? Thank you.

Ok.

[Galron]

I might benefit from leaving and letting my thoughts stew too tbh

only problem is that I have a huge problem being able to stay away

Alyssa, you and I haven't really talked. You have voiced a couple of times that you think that S_S and I may now be T/T. Why do you think that?

[Galron]

I might benefit from leaving and letting my thoughts stew too tbh

only problem is that I have a huge problem being able to stay away

I'm going to commit to this

if one of my stronger townreads has anything to request from me, I will respond. Otherwise I'll try my best to stay out for a bit

Or when you get back from this.

[Galron]

I'm getting a townie impression from RH9 not necessarily because of content but because of posting style; he's almost got a free flow of thought over multiple, sequential posts.

[Something_Smart]

About the last so and so pages.

No pressing ones. It's late and I'll look at them more in depth tomorrow.

[Galron]

Rereading Prism and Norwee's ISOs, I'm moving his slot to a nullread because there are points where I have agreed with Norwee like in 2717. I dislike Andante's treatment of Harley Quinn. It doesn't feel right. However, I highly TR Firebringer. Thus, I will be unvoting Norwee. (This is partially because I highly TR marcistar.)
UNVOTE: NorweigianboyEE

RH9 let's talk about this

you say you nullread Norway / liked things he's done, but do you really think scum Norway could never post something like "It feels to me like you’re talking to the thread in an emotionally manipulative manner rather than genuinely engaging with anyone."?

What do you think about how he started reacting once he got seriously wagoned, is that not inconsistent with what he posted here? do you think his posts have been genuinely engaging when he threatens to leave and says he can't wait to root for scum in the dead thread? To me, that looks like emotional manipulation

I also would +1 asking Alyssa for help, I feel like I've been mostly on the same page as her this game

It did because it felt genuine. However, I just checked Open 833 again. I found the following quotes.

It does make sense, and i don't want to lose to Ydrasse like this. I've lost too many ElO's as the town that get's mislimmed.

When i refer back to you as Ydrasse it is because i cnnot unsee smug and scum!Ydrasse that is so close to victory and just has to rub it in.

Noraa and Ydrasse are both great scum players, they can make discussions not look like scum theatre if they plan to.

Can’t you see Ydrasse’s tone has been a lot more controlling and scummy STD. Like when they said i had nothing on them earlier and had to "try again".

Looking back at his 3535, 3536 and 3539 it is a bit similar. (Mainly, the thing against Ydrasse.)

It feels similar in that this is Norwee's reaction to Ydrasse voting him in two seperate games.

I realised that Ydrasse votes Norwee and Norwee is not happy with Ydrasse both times.

This is an example from what I was talking about with RH9. He has a premise, then adds to it and then adds to it again. All in rapid-fire succession.

[Galron]

And I dont think he's experienced enough (apologies RH9) to do that as scum yet.

[Galron]

RH9, please don't take offense, but is the data in your profile correct?

Yes, why?

It was important to me to verify that.

[marcistar]

thats a townie thought if ive ever seen one

[Galron]

my activity is (almost) never AI

Self-meta has no influence on me, and I don't understand why people use it so often. You could be lying, but maybe you aren't. You could also be changing playstyle, or you may not. I don't know. I don't trust self-meta. The fact is that you have been more active and jovial this game than I've seen you recently (I don't think I had played with you prior to October though). That change in playstyle jumps off the page at me.

i didn't say i sr him?

sometimes i just say things

Eh depends on how you view it.

What the hell is that supposed to mean

the solving was the friends we made along the way

This exchange is bizarre. Who were you referring to that you didn't say you scumread? And what does the rest of it mean? Sometimes you just say things that are important, not important, nothing to do with anything, what? Although I do appreciate the paraphrase, what does the solving was the friends we made along the way for?

[Galron]

talking about reads on Ydrasse is anti-town

talking about reads on Ydrasse is anti-town

+1

I don't get this exactly, but I'm taking your word for it.

[Galron]

why are u guys all so pressed abt norwee just wanting to read up before doing anything, its not that scummy and u guys just hate him cuz its whats ez

This is a hell of an accusation. And why are you saying it's what's easy? It looked to me that there were a couple of pretty solid arguments that had nothing to do with "wanting to read up."

[Galron]

I know I'm posting a little random, but I finally got to a PC, and this is order I marked stuff on my phone.

[Galron]

Based on content, I can maybe see the RH9 scumreads. But on playstyle, notsomuch.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VoteCount 1.8

Firebringer - Andante [0]
Taly - Ydrasse [0] -
Save the Dragons - Titus [0] -
Marcistar - NorwegianBoyEE [5] - Save The Dragons, Alyssa the Lamb, Datisi, GuiltyLion, Ydrasse
Datisi - GuiltyLion [1] - Titus
RH9 - Alyssa the Lamb [0] -
Shiro - Harley Quinn [2] - Andante, Firebringer
Galron - Something_Smart [1] - NorwegianBoyEE

Not Voting [7]

- RH9, Taly, Marcistar, Shiro, Galron, Something_Smart. Harley Quinn

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to execute

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-12-28 20:00:00)

[Galron]

can someone remind me why did we all start thinking galron is town suddenly?

VOTE: harley + shiro

pedit: i'm also thinking s_s could be townie, but i have zero reason to think so about galron, which is why i'm asking

Galron + Something_Smart

howww are these two so high up
why is galron suddenly so townie for everyone

Datisi & GL / RH9 & Alyssa / Shiro & Harley Quinn
STD & Titus / Galron & S_S
Marcistar & Norwee / Firebringer & Andante

can we got some explanation for this

jesus fucking christ

big fucking mood

oh shit rh9 posted some reads, i'll return to that later

warmpupper continues being my spirit animal here

{Datisi}
{Titus, STD}
{Fire, Andante}
{Marci, Norwee}
{Alyssa, RH9}
{Shiro, HQ}
{Galron, S_S}

ha
ahah
ahahahah
i swear i did not read up on the pt or see this before i posted my list

Maybe SS could still be town? I’m not tr GL so interesting and Fire wanting him and Datisi to endgame is probably a reason in itself not to ever happen. lol

this game is a practice in restraining myself from saying things that would make me eat a perma

i see that shiro is posting Posts(tm) but none of them feel solvey so far

3197 is goodpost, the only problem is i think galron is scum

challenge for anyone who feels like it:

explain to me why galron, shiro, and harley are town, but don't mention bullshit like "you see there are these tells that definitely exist that mean they're town" or "in mini large 69420 i caught them as scum so i would know" k thanks

sometimes scum does shit just because they can

and i especially know s_s is prone to falling for that kinda thing so

in case of galron being scum, s_s being town, and another person on the scumteam knowing s_s's meta, that would be a good way to have him pocketed

Except I didn't even townread it initially, and the one who's convincing me is the IC... that seems impossible for scum to predict.

maybe they thought you would? i wasn't saying they would've predicted you wouldn't but ic would. what's your read on him currently anyway?

idk i'm not really worries about it being s/s, i'm more worried about galron being scum because i genuinely don't see what's townie about that slot and everyone seems to townread him and ???

Dats, you say I'm being [widely] townread, but I don't feel like I am. I've felt an arc this game where I was getting the feeling that I started as null to null-scum, maybe then null-town to town, then deep scum and now slightly higher, maybe null-scum. Where are you getting the impression that [everyone] is townreading me. I see maybe S_S, GL, Alyssa (after you first asked) and RH9 (who I think used reasons in his chart that were pretty much NAI).

Here's why I'm asking. When Titus started this narrative that I had an agenda (in a derogatory way), I became more aware of how people were reading me. And at that time, I was pretty much a universal scum read. You don't come back from that too easily, so I'm afraid of you spinning a narrative that I'm widely townread for no reason and that you're trying to convince people of that.

I also think I saw a couple of posts from other people who said that one of either S_S or me is probably scum, which goes against the narrative that I'm a consensus town read.

That bugs me.

[Galron]

I think those are the main things I wanted to address. I'm feeling better about HQ tonight than last night. No idea on shiro. If he's solving in the PT, I'd like to see at least some of that in the main thread. I am as guilty of that as anyone, but there were a couple of days where I just didn't want to deal with anyone. But S_S shook me out of that.

[Galron]

One more thing.

[Galron]

drink some apple juice

norwe love <3

Hi there!

[Datisi]

Where are you getting the impression that [everyone] is townreading me.

there was a sudden shift from a lot of people (maybe not everyone, but it felt like the majority) saying that you're scummy and that they definitely want your pair to be voted out first, into nobody voting you. that shift was caused by seemingly nothing, because i'm not sure if you were even active in the game, let alone that you posted something townie. people didn't explicitly say you are town, sure, but when people who were saying that they want to vote you suddenly don't do that, that's the only way i can interpret that.

[Galron]

Where are you getting the impression that [everyone] is townreading me.

there was a sudden shift from a lot of people (maybe not everyone, but it felt like the majority) saying that you're scummy and that they definitely want your pair to be voted out first, into nobody voting you. that shift was caused by seemingly nothing, because i'm not sure if you were even active in the game, let alone that you posted something townie. people didn't explicitly say you are town, sure, but when people who were saying that they want to vote you suddenly don't do that, that's the only way i can interpret that.

Well, I don't really disagree with the shift analysis; I just don't see all that many town reading me as much as townreading S_S. There was a couple of days where I really didn't feel like dealing with anything, and that is about when it happened, but maybe there were a couple of fights in there where people just scum read others more than me? I don't know.

[Datisi]

maybe i shouldn't be considering your slot in isolation since you're tied to s_s now. but the shift from "we need to murder galron immediately" to "sike" was not unnoticed.

[Galron]

I know when the tide turned against me initially was when I tried to steal LLD from marci and said something about wanting LLD to endgame. My stock crashed at that point for whatever reason. I'm usually not really aware of things like that, but it was a universal thing, and I couldn't figure it out. Why there's possibly a shift back upwards i don't know. I can only figure it's because others, like norwee, have dropped down.

Regardless, that's not all that important, but I hope you see why I was concerned about your comments.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

The one thing I will say is that I find the universal townreads on me odd

I'm stronger at scum than a lot of people give me credit for anymore

[Taly]

The one thing I will say is that I find the universal townreads on me odd

I'm stronger at scum than a lot of people give me credit for anymore

I think it's a read people are sheeping me on for better or for worse.