Datisi re: midway sectionIn post 738, Datisi wrote:i would like to thank all of you for not spamming additional 30 pages while i was asleep
i actually think this makes midway kinda townie? like, his whole read of me. i feel like scum!him in this situation would go "i have a light scumread on datisi based on this". and the way he's going "i really think datisi is scum but i think i'm getting confbiased here" makes me think it's more likely that the thoughts are actually real? like, i *think* scum here would be spending more time fleshing out the read on me or trying to justify it, and wouldn't be wasting time in writing how confident they are on it, especially considering scum!him would know these reasons aren't really good and that i *can* post a lot and be annoying so like idk i just don't see this coming from scum!himIn post 698, midwaybear wrote:I didn't like your interaction with IV earlier and how you both sort of didn't want to go any further. I also found 642 a bit off. But yeah, that doesn't warrant this level of confidence so I don't think I will ISO you rn or anything like that.In post 682, Datisi wrote:what's making you so confident this early?In post 679, midwaybear wrote:because I really think you are scum.
also the "datisi/nsg are s/s" feels like a plausible thought.
why do you think scum!midway would be backing off his push on me *already*? like, i'm more scumread than townread, it's not like anyone is getting heat for scumreading me, like literally three seconds ago i started townreading someone for scumreading me? what's the logic behind this?In post 700, Andante wrote:This post. feels too much like something scum would say. like a "ok.. backing off on my push on you.. cause I know you're town... and this isn't working for me" those are definitely the vibes I get from that post.In post 679, midwaybear wrote:Scum theater. But, I feel like I'm getting too conf biased (around your slot) because I really think you are scum. I'm starting to build a narrative that makes you scum regardless of other alignments(nsg/skitter), and I don't think that is very good. Maybe you are scum, but I don't want to tunnel at this point.
is this you just disagreeing with skitter about the quality of her read or is it saying you think skitter's scummy for it? if the latter, is there a reason you didn't mention my townread of andante which is arguably of worse quality?In post 702, northsidegal wrote:but even still i suppose the point that i'm trying to get across is that you still need some kind of relevant body of work for reference and it just seems strange to me that you take one game as sufficient for that.
up until the point i posted that? no, i don't think i was doing that. mainly because i saw very little of this game that actually made me think "x is y alignment" (that one post from andante being town!indicative is a rare example). so if i wasn't *having* reads, i knew i didn't post them either. and considering a lot of my relaxedness comes from the fact that i have gutreads and i can act based upon them, and i wasn't having them at that point... yeah, i think i wasn't doing that either.In post 708, skitter30 wrote:also, do you not think you're doing this?In post 675, Datisi wrote:generally, what makes me townie and what mostly makes my towngames is gut reads, in-moment thoughts, and feeling mostly relaxed and natural(and townbloc building, but that's follows after reads, obviously). now, the gut reads and thoughts aren't present because this game feels like mud currently and i've gotten very little from it so far. and, i'm aware i'm sounding a bit off tonally, mostly around iv, because this is like the 4th game in recent times where we start off with "r u scum though" and it's gotten repetitive.
why do you ask? do you like, disagree that i was giving reads or something? you yourself said you thought my more recent posts weren't as relaxed as before...
because i feel a sort of obligation to? it's like a long-running inside joke, we always scumread each other at the beginning of the game, sort of how i pretty much always open with "oh no ico rolled scum for the umpteenth time" when i play with him recently. or how i joke about george/norwee being scum together. it's a running joke. the problem is that i don't actually GET anything from you alignemnt-wise as i get from ico or george (because i actually kind of don't suck at reading those two). my way of reading you is generally "wait an in-game day or two, and THEN read iv" because form what i know of you, your start as scum is good but you get tired the more the game progresses, while you don't get the same tiredness as town. i can't read you early game and i don't try to. but i continue the joke, mostly because of social pressure actually. i don't wanna be the person that stopped doing the joke, it feels rude.In post 729, innocentvillager wrote:if ur so tired of these interactions why do you still engage in them/feel half-reluctant to? don’t you usually get some useful read out of me
if i was giving the impression that i was actually successfully sorting you in last games, lol idk. in that mini normal, your early "scumread" of me felt contrasting enough to the rest of the game's read of me that i felt like i could actually get insight into your thoughts there. here i would just go "yeah i can see it" because i CAN see it because this game feels like mud currently.
no clue. i did think about what i would do if i rolled scum against you in some prior games, and my generally plan would've been "try to survive d1, kill him asap on n1". as for how would the "try to survive d1" look, no clue.In post 730, innocentvillager wrote:how do you think scum!you approaches/pockets me/pushes me?
when did this turn into a wall i'm gonna post it for now
Hmm maybe? You just asked him specifically why he was so confident on his read on you whether he already admitted that he didn’t want to tunnel so wouldn’t you expect scum!him to assess how confident he could be publicly be about the read, realize the reasons weren’t amazing, and back off a little
It’s less the reaction that I like but more the early conviction on you in the previous post where he goes “really thjnk Datisi is scum but maybe confbias” part feels kind of assertively nuanced in a way that’s not easy for scum to fake so I will admit this is a point in his favor/your argument
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