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[House]

Galron has also discouraged Dwlee votes throughout the game, yet also criticized him for replacing into a null slot but not improving it.

[House]

Galron/Dwlee looks like the team, the more I look at it.

[House]

No one submitted just "Roleblocker."

And even if did, then roleblocking AND killing someone out of blue... Smells informed. And JOAT needed to end one night atleast to become informed.

Scum is informed by default, you silly goose.

[Enchant]

Not that informed, who you called goose.

Like why kill someone AND roleblock them.

[Galron]

This is going into Wednesday isn't it,

Ayup. I saw the proscutor filed a motion in limine to prevent any mention of this game.

[Galron]

Also since I'm already shitting in people's cereal bowls, I would currently bet the game on

House/Taly/mastina/Titus

town and no I'm not perpetuating this weird "cool kids" label that has been imposed on our interactions.

Early on Taly would have {dwlee,galron}

[Galron]

Btw i checked picks. I remembered how Hider died...
And that we possible have roleblocker.

Dwlee99 never claimed mafia picks or i didn't find.
Mine are 1-Shot Strongman, Macho, Informed.
House are:
Ascetic Multitasking Rolestopper/Rolecop
Ascetic Multitasking Hider/Watcher
Ascetic Strongman
Titus are:
Combined Rolecop, Loyal Neighborizer and Loyal Doctor Traitor
Combined Disloyal Universal Backup and Encryptor
Combined Personal Alien Mailman
Galron are:
Town: 2-shot bulletproof gunsmith
Mafia: Loud Alien, 2-shot Strongman
Mastinas are: 1-Shot Strongman, 1-Shot Universal Backup, PT Cop

I realize that this is a list of alive players, but you stuck Cheeky's death in there to to say that there should be a roleblocker. I'm not sure why you did any of that, but Greeting submitted Mafia Roleblocker, so that could be a thing. And I really don't know how that would've worked in Cheeky's death.

[House]

Not that informed, who you called goose.

Like why kill someone AND roleblock them.

I... have no idea?

[Galron]

Not that informed, who you called goose.

Like why kill someone AND roleblock them.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but don't non-kill actions resolve first, then kill actions.

[House]

Not that informed, who you called goose.

Like why kill someone AND roleblock them.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but don't non-kill actions resolve first, then kill actions.

Usefulness depends on the action.

Commute/Hide would prevent a killing action even with Strongman.

[Galron]

And actually, if Cheeky's hider was roleblocked, and she was the NK, that kinda takes care of that doesn't it.

[House]

If Cheeky's target was jailed, she didn't go anywhere and was available to be killed.

[Galron]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

[Galron]

It couldn't have been the shooter I don't think

[House]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.

[mastina]

Sorry, I have the time (well maybe) to post tonight but not the mindset to post; I'm v tired and v just...not in the mafia playing mindset. (I was wanting to at work, but work exhausted and drained me to the point where I'm not able to now.) Apologies.

UNVOTE: House
This is, explicitly, not because I want House to live.

I think that he has a high chance of being scum. (Remember also that he submitted as his scum roles three

ascetic

roles and we don't need a mafia roleblocker if Cheeky hid behind an ascetic scum House while House killed her.)
I think that both the past gamestate and current gamestate heavily supports him being scum.

But while I believe he is very very likely to be scum...

...I don't want the day to end yet regardless. Even if he's scum, I've got things to say which I wouldn't get to say if we went into night.
And obviously, if I'm wrong on him being scum (even though I think that he is), then I don't want him quickhammered yet. (I realize there was a desire to have what amounts to a form of hammertesting with me voting House and then Enchant/Galron/etc. as second vote and such, but while I was willing to risk that while I didn't have things to say, I'm not willing to risk it while I DO have things to say.)

I'll be re-placing the vote after I've done what I want to do.

I just can't do it tonight, apologies.

[mastina]

(Also I feel it's worth mentioning, I got my role, the one I submitted. I've been sorta working under the assumption that everyone who got a role, got what they submitted. So if House submitted Mafia Ascetic, and Cheeky visited House, then we no longer need a scum roleblock + kill on Cheeky, just a scum kill on Cheeky.)

[Galron]

Damnit, I wasn't done that post. Okay, where I left off:

Scorpius can absolutely AtE as scum. We backed off him in wildlife (mini normal) but he was scum. I haven't seen Scorpius as town unless this one, but do not use the ate as a clearing method. I want to review that game to compare the style of ate, because Scorpius couldn't have known I'd replace in and be able to analyze this, but that'll be not a phone post.

I'm like fine with Meg wagon but I'm really not sure how people read them cause they always are scummy.

Saw vote count as well so
UNVOTE:

I am going to start here.
VOTE: Scorpius
Pending comparing the AtE

Scorpius was AtEing this game, I'll find examples later.

I wasn't fine with Meg's elimination in 702. I was in 844 cause I didn't like the Enchant vote

Could be distancing I guess but I kind of doubt it.

[Enchant]

Btw i checked picks. I remembered how Hider died...
And that we possible have roleblocker.

Dwlee99 never claimed mafia picks or i didn't find.
Mine are 1-Shot Strongman, Macho, Informed.
House are:
Ascetic Multitasking Rolestopper/Rolecop
Ascetic Multitasking Hider/Watcher
Ascetic Strongman
Titus are:
Combined Rolecop, Loyal Neighborizer and Loyal Doctor Traitor
Combined Disloyal Universal Backup and Encryptor
Combined Personal Alien Mailman
Galron are:
Town: 2-shot bulletproof gunsmith
Mafia: Loud Alien, 2-shot Strongman
Mastinas are: 1-Shot Strongman, 1-Shot Universal Backup, PT Cop

I realize that this is a list of alive players, but you stuck Cheeky's death in there to to say that there should be a roleblocker. I'm not sure why you did any of that, but Greeting submitted Mafia Roleblocker, so that could be a thing. And I really don't know how that would've worked in Cheeky's death.

... Do even someone read rules?

You can only recieve role YOU submitted.

[Galron]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.

What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.

[House]

mastina if I'm an investigative scum and you have actions on top of being Mason, how do you live to today?

You don't.

If I'm Strongman scum, why the fuck would I ever send Scorpious to kill anyone since I can't be tracked or investigated?

[House]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.

What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.

That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.

[Galron]

Here is what I sumbitted:
Town: 2-shot bulletproof gunsmith
Mafia: Loud Alien, 2-shot Strongman

I already claimed VT. I can't be a loud alien since no one has said I visited them. Possibly could be the 2-shot strongman, but I would have used those N1 and N2. A choice between scorpious making the kill on N2 or me wold make more sense from me if we had a no-death on N1 and wanted to get it right N2.

[Galron]

Guess that doesn't mean I can't be a goon though.

[Galron]

I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1

Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.

What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.

That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.

Occam's led me to the other thing, but okay then.