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[Aristeia]

HEM wagons feels p townie to me; is there someone on there you suspect MB?

[Nero Cain]

you know Math. It was mainly me _ fua that had driven the Wu wagon. if Wu were to flip town we get blamed. That back to back to back skitter-VP-Yet rapid voted on HEM is prob from scum.

[tenebrousluminary]

Thank you for at least partly explaining, Math.

[MathBlade]

my 1452 was straight-up a joke and had nothing to do with the game. But arguing that one of Dats/Wu has to be scum doesn't seem like a great argument, your sister was wrong as fuck when she used it and you're prob wrong too.

You’re not addressing the substance of why I think one of Datisi/Wu are scum though.

You’re referencing an irrelevant game

I don’t see why scum move from both Datisi/Wu onto HEM/me. Why?

ok, looking at the progression of votes on those four players:

253 - datisi (4), monkey (3), wu (0), monkey (0)
475 - wu (4), datisi (3), monkey (2), nordom (0)
625 - datisi (5), monkey (3), wu (1), nordom (0)
904 - datisi (5), nordom (3), monkey (2), wu (1)
1050 - datisi (4), nordom (4), monkey (2), wu (1)
1175 - monkey (5), datisi (3), wu (2), nordom (1)
1254 - monkey (6), nordom (4), wu (2), datisi (1)

saying that there were clear leading wagons of datisi/wu and that scum moved things to you/monkey is not backed up at all by what happened. monkey wagon came before wu. wu wagon, by the VCs, was actually never very prominent. there was one point out of 7 VCs where datisi/wu were the two leading ones, but it's super arbitrary to pick out that one.

the shift of things onto wu lately is actually the most interesting thing here, imo

This argument reinforces Wu scum even more. This isn’t the shining bullet you think it is.

[the worst]

The players will move their pieces from left to right, starting at 1, following the numbers on the board, then the next row from right to left and repeat. If a player rolls a 4, then the player would move their piece four places. When a player lands on a top of a snake, their playing piece will slide down to the bottom of the snake.

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GeneralWu (4): fua, Save The Dragons, VP Baltar, MathBlade

[E-6]

humaneatingmonkey (2): Datisi, Yeet
Datisi (1): humaneatingmonkey
Yeet (1): Frogsterking
Eyes without a face (1): Cape90
tenebrousluminary (1): fireisredsir
fua (1): skitter30
skitter30 (1): Nero Cain
MathBlade (1): tenebrousluminary

Not Voting (6): Scorpious, MalcolmTucker, Eyes without a face, Aristeia, GeneralWu, DeasVail

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-03-12 05:15:00).

click here for joined mod iso.

[Nero Cain]

not really, that would mean 3/4 scum team got ran up today. I kinda think that's unlikely.

How do you keep knowing how many scum members there are?

b/c im a 2009 that's not a complete idiot.

[GeneralWu]

Assuming MathBlade is telling the truth, I think we have a good shot of catching scum among the people who were voting him and monkey. I just don't think wagons can get like this without scum interference.

[MathBlade]

HEM wagons feels p townie to me; is there someone on there you suspect MB?

Still reading but Skitter.

She was different when she accused me of a fake inno in the other game. She was relentless

Here she’s all “let the NKs sort it out”. It’s passive

[MathBlade]

Assuming MathBlade is telling the truth, I think we have a good shot of catching scum among the people who were voting him and monkey. I just don't think wagons can get like this without scum interference.

Agreed. It points to you hard but maybe you can find an alternate narrative

I think you are scum as people are defending you by attacking me versus explaining why they TR you.

[Nero Cain]

this is a 19 player game and 4 scum is the standard for this size

[Aristeia]

why wouldn't she let NKs sort out a mason claim? ~.~ seems kind of common sense to me.

[tenebrousluminary]

I would like to reiterate that I took HEM's side of things and only voted you, Math, because VPB was hassling me for voting Dragons. I will drop the subject here.

UNVOTE:

[fireisredsir]

I would like to reiterate that I took HEM's side of things and only voted you, Math, because VPB was hassling me for voting Dragons. I will drop the subject here.

UNVOTE:

can we just lim this instead please

[GeneralWu]

I think you are scum as people are defending you by attacking me versus explaining why they TR you.

You know, I think this might mean that some people defending me are scum.

[MathBlade]

why wouldn't she let NKs sort out a mason claim? ~.~ seems kind of common sense to me.

That’s what she says she’s going to do.

But instead she’s taking a kind of passive aggressive stance.

It’s different.

Did you read it?

[tenebrousluminary]

Assuming MathBlade is telling the truth, I think we have a good shot of catching scum among the people who were voting him and monkey. I just don't think wagons can get like this without scum interference.

You changed this tune rather quickly. Maybe you are just scum after all.

[Nero Cain]

I think you are scum as people are defending you by attacking me versus explaining why they TR you.

You know, I think this might mean that some people defending me are scum.

skitter

[Cape90]

And monkey was painted to be scummy but wasn’t

why not

[MathBlade]

I think you are scum as people are defending you by attacking me versus explaining why they TR you.

You know, I think this might mean that some people defending me are scum.

The people defending you I suspect are scum as well
If you happen to push them and prove me wrong and flip scum win win
Or if you bus win win
Or we get info that’s not wasting time on conf town win win

[MathBlade]

And monkey was painted to be scummy but wasn’t

why not

Because he’s a mason he can’t be scum
Naturally scum say town are scummy
But there’s nothing scummy in the ISO

[fireisredsir]

This argument reinforces Wu scum even more. This isn’t the shining bullet you think it is.

how so? serious question, I'm curious for your reasoning. i don't think it's a shining bullet (? lol), i have no horse in this race, im just trying to show you why your interpretation of events is not necessarily the reality, and that therefore the assumptions your making based off of your interpretation are kinda useless to the rest of us

[MathBlade]

why wouldn't she let NKs sort out a mason claim? ~.~ seems kind of common sense to me.

That’s what she says she’s going to do.

But instead she’s taking a kind of passive aggressive stance.

It’s different.

Did you read it?

Further elaborating
This passive shade gives her an out

“Oh Math died and was town…guess I gotta reset. He shouldn’t be so scummy”
“I don’t trust Math so I won’t vote Wu”

This is what it gains Skitter

[MathBlade]

This argument reinforces Wu scum even more. This isn’t the shining bullet you think it is.

how so? serious question, I'm curious for your reasoning. i don't think it's a shining bullet (? lol), i have no horse in this race, im just trying to show you why your interpretation of events is not necessarily the reality, and that therefore the assumptions your making based off of your interpretation are kinda useless to the rest of us

Datisi top wagon becomes
Wu top wagon
Back to Datisi followed with a rapid departure from Wu
Nordom (me) is being counter wagoned

Wu was abandoned hard

There needs to be a catalyst why.

[fireisredsir]

you know Math. It was mainly me _ fua that had driven the Wu wagon. if Wu were to flip town we get blamed. That back to back to back skitter-VP-Yet rapid voted on HEM is prob from scum.

can you expand on this, i am interested but i feel like I'm missing a step between the first half and the last half. if those two are supposed to be connected then i don't follow the logic

[Cape90]

And monkey was painted to be scummy but wasn’t

why not

Because he’s a mason he can’t be scum
Naturally scum say town are scummy
But there’s nothing scummy in the ISO

Nothing scummy in the ISO...

lmao.

Maybe easy to say because you weren't here to witness his early game