Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh wait. I sense chakra energies vibrating in the air…
It’s telling me… to vote Klick!

VOTE: Klick

[NorwegianboyEE]

Flavour Leaf you have been very useless today, thank you.

[bnuuy]

This is probably an all scum hood. Sigh.

What is “this”?

FoS: MonkeyMan

I have to ask, why the FoS on monkeyman? Did you not want to move your vote off Save The Dragons, and if so, why not?

It looked like a slip but I wasn’t sure (the “this” felt out of place)
VOTE: monkeyman
Better place for my vote than StD currently

[MalcolmTucker]

Flavour Leaf you have been very useless today, thank you.

This is true re Flavor but looking through your ISO I think you've had quite a lot of filler despite being one of the most active players so far. Lot of jokey stuff early on, few changed votes and lots of questions without substantive pushes as such.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Flavour Leaf you have been very useless today, thank you.

This is true re Flavor but looking through your ISO I think you've had quite a lot of filler despite being one of the most active players so far. Lot of jokey stuff early on, few changed votes and lots of questions without substantive pushes as such.

I never claimed i would be better.

[MonkeyMan576]

This is probably an all scum hood. Sigh.

What is “this”?

FoS: MonkeyMan

I have to ask, why the FoS on monkeyman? Did you not want to move your vote off Save The Dragons, and if so, why not?

It looked like a slip but I wasn’t sure (the “this” felt out of place)
VOTE: monkeyman
Better place for my vote than StD currently

So you agree with eliminated the claimed beloved princess then?

[MalcolmTucker]

Flavour Leaf you have been very useless today, thank you.

This is true re Flavor but looking through your ISO I think you've had quite a lot of filler despite being one of the most active players so far. Lot of jokey stuff early on, few changed votes and lots of questions without substantive pushes as such.

I never claimed i would be better.

I'm not necessarily comparing your play to Flavor's, just noticed from an ISO scan you have a lot of posts that I'd argue can be classed as filler.

[MalcolmTucker]

This is probably an all scum hood. Sigh.

What is “this”?

FoS: MonkeyMan

I have to ask, why the FoS on monkeyman? Did you not want to move your vote off Save The Dragons, and if so, why not?

It looked like a slip but I wasn’t sure (the “this” felt out of place)
VOTE: monkeyman
Better place for my vote than StD currently

Out of interest, was your initial STD vote just an early gut feeling vibe type vote? I think they've looked townie so far.

[MalcolmTucker]

Alright, school's over, what'd I miss?

What if, instead of asking this, you read over what was posted since you

last

asked this, and then told us what you thought about it?

Going back - I've mostly found cassowary's play alright but this post feels oddly confrontational in an unnatural way. Cassowary, like me, said they were slightly aggrieved when they joined to see the high post count and the game has been moving quickly so far. Why the sudden snark when someone else casually asks for a catch-up?

[Sword of Ducks]

My 'shut up and let other people fill the silence'tactic I picked up from a video game seems to be working rather well. UNVOTE: catboi

[Sword of Ducks]

Alright, school's over, what'd I miss?

What if, instead of asking this, you read over what was posted since you

last

asked this, and then told us what you thought about it?

Going back - I've mostly found cassowary's play alright but this post feels oddly confrontational in an unnatural way. Cassowary, like me, said they were slightly aggrieved when they joined to see the high post count and the game has been moving quickly so far. Why the sudden snark when someone else casually asks for a catch-up?

This is...not how they normally treat me...

[Save The Dragons]

malcolm's posts feel fangless

[Nashville Dreams]

@Monkey, Can you explain the reads on Well Done, MalcolmTucker and SwordsofDucks?

Well Done - active an engaged, agree with their posts for the most part.

MalcomTrucker - Not really active, but their posts seem like they are trying to sort a little.

SwordofDucks - low content posting.

What do you specifically agree with Well Done on?
Where is Malcolm trying to sort?
If SoD's "low content posting" was a problem, why didn't you support my push prior to being FoSed?

Ahem.

This is the third time I am asking this.

[MonkeyMan576]

tracer is the malefactor, calling it now

lol if I was malefactor I would've already claimed it and tried to get myself elimmed and spammed the thread full of shitty youtube wrestling videos

why, that's anti win con.

malefactor doesn't have to live to win, eliminating town dayplay oppurtunity buys cover for your scum team

last game malefactor got endgamed and was completely useless

Last game the malefactor was endgamed and completely useless because we identified him as the malefactor day 1, and promptly ignored him for the rest of the game.

This is probably an all scum hood. Sigh.

I have 3 PT's. None of them are the scum ones, and now that I know the randomization of it all, i'm so paranoid of this game

Given the mechanics of the last game, I am surprised that there are 3.

Also curious if this works out as an IC claim for you?

How is this game at 11 pages already.

hot take: commenting about the page count is >rand scum

is this actually true or is it just something people say so much that they believe it to be true

I don't have data or anything if that's what you're asking

Though this made me want to go look at Malcolm's past large games to see if he's complained about the same thing before. There's only been one large so far, but the vibe doesn't feel the same so good enough for an early gutread

Spoiler:

Subject: Large Normal 238 | Weiqi, Baduk, Go | Endgame

Lot to catch up on here, will do a readthrough of what I've missed so far.

Their second post:

Spoiler:

Anyway, main reads so far. Wu seems incredibly suspicious so far to me and I'm surprised it took until p11 of the game for Nero to pick up on this. Basically all of their early posts were either jokes or non-comments which allowed them to appear active without getting too involved in the game and actually taking stances either way. If they come back mafia, worth looking at other players early on who had theories but didn't pick up on that.

I didn't necessarily suspect Tenebros on the basis of their early posts but found some of their later defences incredibly weak attempts to divert attention away from them without addressing accusations at-hand.

Yet seems solidly townie so far, if not would be a very bold strategy for mafia playing their first game on the site. Also appears to have a sort of absolute confidence in their reads which can often be townie, mafia maybe more likely to hedge their bets and avoid going too heavily in on someone who could later be confirmed town.

They got right into it compared to what they did in this game which has me raising an eyebrow

Yo, very important to note:

I am a Beloved Princess

I know the rule about randomization elements to roles, but I find it hard to believe that Ceph would have allowed beloved princess to potentially be a scum role after existing in the Bloodstained game and seeing a scum beloved princess in action.

severely not convinced by Well Done's case on menalque

Sad.

~~More of my thoughts on Mena~~

The context:
~Mena was sitting on the largest early wagon: catboi.
~There was another growing wagon on Monkey Man
~I was currently leaning town on CSF based on the meta check presented in 358.

So, I saw Mena jump off of the largest wagon without voicing any read on catboi, and then ignore the second largest wagon (monkey man), and vote someone I think is town without reason. This makes me curious., so I ask why.

I feel like the timeline is a bit important to my thoughts, so will include.
Original vote is at 6:51 est, presumably he just thought of why he wanted to vote CSF. I ask why immediately after at 6:57 est, he sees my question and posts without answering immediately after at 7:04 est.

He then posts again, still not answering, but instead deflecting into complaining about hydras instead. -- He then comes back to give an answer, an hour after asked. His answer:

Spoiler:

thanks!

I voted CSF for 3 reasons:

(1) I think malc's "oh god 11 pages already" thing is very slightly +scum, but CSF's "he seems like he wouldn't mind the legwork of reading 10 pages" reads as overjustification to me

(2) she didn't say hello to me

(3) *reserved for now*

Firstly, I don't see CSF's explination as a overjustification at all. It was a 2 sentence explenation for the read after being directly asked to explain the read.

Spoiler:

I don't see that at all from this exchange tbh

Spoiler:

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

why

Gut lol

from what?

barely posted, how do you have a gut read

ok maybe i can see it

but answer anyway i wanna hear your answer

From complaining about having to read

My impression of Malcolm is that he doesn't mind doing legwork like reading 10 pages

[/sp/oiler]

Secondly, if the true reason Mena voted CSF was because he saw the Malcom vote reasoning, and thought it was an overjustification, I don't think he would have dodged the question twice before answering.

Thirdly, the way he presented the read was in itself an over justification imo.

His reason for voting CSF, was

maybe

a throw away kind of reason that is good enough to vote someone pre page 5 when you don't have content to look at, but definitely not in the context of when he made it.

Moving his vote, but not being able to / being unwilling to say why when asked, trying to deflect the conversation away, and then finally coming back with a really flimsy reason being presented as a serious reason reads to me like it was a fake read that he was not expecting to be questioned on. Not one that he believed in as he cast the vote.

These posts, for example, give me the impression that WD is actively engaged.

[MonkeyMan576]

I also suspect Klick a bit so far. I feel like their early read on catboi was again reaching a bit, accusing them of being "noncommittal" at a point in the game where half the players were still very much mostly shitposting.

thanks!

I voted CSF for 3 reasons:

(1) I think malc's "oh god 11 pages already" thing is very slightly +scum, but CSF's "he seems like he wouldn't mind the legwork of reading 10 pages" reads as overjustification to me

(2) she didn't say hello to me

(3) *reserved for now*

These posts give the impression of sorting.
I don't really see why such a post is particularly scummy really. I've since caught up and reflected on where I feel the game is at - I just was quite surprised coming in and seeing so much content on the go already.

I think CSF's point was fair enough that I'll generally read back and make sure I know where I am with the game, but it was night for me anyway hence I knew I'd be delayed on a full catch-up until morning.

dunn, you continue to astonish me with the amount of effort you put in, time and time again, to not understanding my play

This post very much feels like a deflection. Convenient way to ignore the point being made.

why... would I address the point that's being made?

Because it's surely a better look than deflecting onto the argument being made being entirely around playstyle. Players can adapt how they approach the game, saying "this is how I play" doesn't stop someone from potentially reading you as mafia.

[MonkeyMan576]

If SoD's "low content posting" was a problem, why didn't you support my push prior to being FoSed?

This is the third time I am asking this.[/quote]

I'm not always going to jump on a wagon the first time something comes up.

[MegAzumarill]

malcolm's posts feel fangless

Do you think this is scum or town indicative, I can see arguements for this meaning either

[MegAzumarill]

My 'shut up and let other people fill the silence'tactic I picked up from a video game seems to be working rather well. UNVOTE: catboi

(gasp)

[NorwegianboyEE]

I personally think it was a bit weird how they were like "Your posts are just filler"

And then afterwards just be like "But yeah, i didn't mean anything by it. Just wanted to point it out"

[cassowary]

Alright, school's over, what'd I miss?

What if, instead of asking this, you read over what was posted since you

last

asked this, and then told us what you thought about it?

Going back - I've mostly found cassowary's play alright but this post feels oddly confrontational in an unnatural way. Cassowary, like me, said they were slightly aggrieved when they joined to see the high post count and the game has been moving quickly so far. Why the sudden snark when someone else casually asks for a catch-up?

This is...not how they normally treat me...

Normally I feel like you do a bit more reading ._.;

like half your posts this game have just been asking people to summarize the game for you - the nature of the game is you're not going to be able to read all the posts as they come in, so you've got to be comfortable with at least skimming what happened when you weren't there to catch up

[Save The Dragons]

malcolm's posts feel fangless

Do you think this is scum or town indicative, I can see arguements for this meaning either

i think this is scum indicative

what do you think

[MegAzumarill]

I agree on your bo fangs point but I don't think it's deliberate. Additionally I think their play has been pretty +town so far

[Save The Dragons]

can you give some other reads

[MegAzumarill]

With a degree of confidence? no
I'll do some analysis later but I'm short on time right now

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes can y'all please spew you partne- i mean please share your reads.