Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[catboi]

well done what other scum reads do you have

i believe we can find something we agree on

We scumread Menalque
We are suspicious of Malcolm and catboi
We are less suspicious of Klick and tictac and haven't given them a strong look over but have acknowledged them

We were suspicious of Monkeyman and Sword of Ducks at one point and need to think over it again

Boys you gotta get some better scumreads because I'm town, Menalque is very likely town, and I think Malcolm is too

[The Keeper]

For the record, the original games setup:

The Resistance - Town Vanilla
Dannflor - Town Vanilla
Kakeguri Addcits - Town Vanilla
morph the cat - Town Mason Roleblocker
petapan - Town Odd Night Seer
Vaxkiller - Town Veteran
Celestial Powerhouse - Town Mason Two Shot Vigilante
Kazyan - Town Doctor
Taco Hemingway - Town Even Night Occoultist
unwnd - Town One Shot Wolfsbane
Lukewarm - Town One Shot Wolfsbane Monk
Mastina - Town Monk
Uncle Shelby - Town Monk
Ythan - Town Hirsute Even Night Cop
Pooky - Town Cleric
WhemeStar - Melefactor Wiccan One Shot Neighborizor
ManateeDude - Werewolf One Shot Bulletproof Mason
DrippingGoofball - Werwolf Odd Night Gunsmith
Anya - Werewolf One Shot Strongman
Echolocation - Mafia One Shot Bulletproof One Shot Strongman
CheekyTeeky - Mafia Diabolist
Vecna - Mafia Miller Nonconsecutive Night Tracker

That was such an amazing run.. Morph the Cat getting early Guppy and Tech X with the Fish Head... eugh

[catboi]

Okay Well Done is super obviously town here, for a very simple reason: Dunn doesn't have the balls to push Flavor Leaf day 1 as scum. He plays scum like a background character, mays easy votes, tries to avoid drawing attention to himself. Here he's doing the exact opposite of that and drawing negative attention from the most active player in the game. It's a million miles outside his scum range.

[Sword of Ducks]

. . .
guess some shit went down huh
can someone summarize this for me?

[The Keeper]

I gotta look into The Keeper/Cass a little more.

OH I can just tell you.

I'm a troll alt.

But when I want to make a point, I will.

I'll play my Starter Deck for you.
- Each time I am misgendered, your post will be quoted, counted and ignored completely. It does not exist to me.
- I vote twice per phase. Never more. I have two coins for the ferryman, 2 health, two eyes, and two votes.
- I will make as many Binding of Isaac references as possible - aiming for at least 1 per post.
- I low key solve. I don't go pressing buttons, I don't go hunting, I sit, I watch, and I smile.

I get stronger as the game goes on as town apparently, enough to be fear killed these days.

[catboi]

Interesting how I postulate that voting Catboi might be required for the game state causes us to be a counter to catboi. This definitely means I need to reset my catboi read when I catch up.

The only difference I see is who is doing the voting. If it was people familiar with me, I would lean towards scum saving catboi. Yet Butter and Wallflower are not familiar with me.

Titus respectfully

what the fuck are you talking about?

[catboi]

I gotta look into The Keeper/Cass a little more.

OH I can just tell you.

I'm a troll alt.

But when I want to make a point, I will.

I'll play my Starter Deck for you.
- Each time I am misgendered, your post will be quoted, counted and ignored completely. It does not exist to me.
- I vote twice per phase. Never more. I have two coins for the ferryman, 2 health, two eyes, and two votes.
- I will make as many Binding of Isaac references as possible - aiming for at least 1 per post.
- I low key solve. I don't go pressing buttons, I don't go hunting, I sit, I watch, and I smile.

I get stronger as the game goes on as town apparently, enough to be fear killed these days.

hey can you explain what you mean by white hearts/black hearts lol

[catboi]

I'm still 100% in support of day 1 eliming the Beloved Princess. Lowest risk for what could possibly also be scum, PRs are still hidden, scum would be firing blindly, possibly getting a few cross kills.

This is a bad post.

[The Keeper]

Anyone else feeling a little Well Done after reading Well Done's not particually Well Done walls?

I need to find a bed and get my health back...

pedit - nope.

[catboi]

. . .
guess some shit went down huh
can someone summarize this for me?

I will try to let you know when I'm caught up and can actually explain it

[catboi]

Anyone else feeling a little Well Done after reading Well Done's not particually Well Done walls?

I need to find a bed and get my health back...

pedit - nope.

god fucking dammit

[Sword of Ducks]

- I low key solve. I don't go pressing buttons, I don't go hunting, I sit, I watch, and I smile.

Ah. There's no other feeling in the world like watching your opponent walk straight into your trap card, is there?

[Menalque]

Catboi, who you wanna vote?

[Enchant]

Aren't limming Princess less harmful late game, where scum higher likely to hit scum?

Of course if we suck up completely, which probably will happen.

[catboi]

@Well Done - You wanna act like this is anything different when I know for a fact Dunnstral knows I play this exact way as town. Catboi is doing the same exact thing with the "pushing whoever pushes them" but you chose to ignore it.


Here's where I stand right now.

If you want to act like I haven't given my thoughts on nearly every single slot on the game bar a few, like The Keeper or your slot, it's because I was still needing something more concrete for the both of you.

I would say this is your first major point of action during this.

The fact that it came after my Mastina push and not my Catboi one makes me think there's merit in Mastina/Well Done being on one scum team, then Catboi/Cassowary on the other.

The rest is probably somewhere in my town reads because I don't expect to be correct on Day 1 with all my town reads, i fall in pockets early, and that's okay.

Sword of Ducks
Save The Dragons
Tracer Bullet
MonkeyMan576
Bnuuy

Malcolm
WallFlower
Menalque
Norwegian
Cat Scratch Fever

Toogeloo
MegaZumarill
Enchant
Butterchurn
Tictac
Klick

The Keeper
Well Done
Nashville Dreams

Mastina
cassowary

catboi

Or at least, the town side of it

See, you have to consider: having good/reasonable townreads in games dosn't mean a whole lot. This is especially true in multiball, where scum can just legitimately townread people for entirely true reasoning. (in regular games too though I've been fooled by people having reasonable townreads but still being mafia). It's because anyone can fake townreads and have them make sense, townreading pyers other players townread is safe, but the hardest thing for scum to do is push legitimate scumreads.

And yes, I know the immediate rebuttal is "but this is multiball and scum can legitimately scumhunt in it, but even so I think conventional reasoning

mostly

works and you can find scum by looking for people who aren't really scumhunting or are pushing arguments based on faulty reasoning because they're just trying to get someone eliminated and don't care what their alignment is.

[catboi]

Catboi, who you wanna vote?

Getting to that in a moment, mena,I feel like I'm juuust getting confident enough to put together a reads list but I wanna get through this well done/flavor leaf dust-up

[catboi]

It definitely feels like this has been a game where scum have been been basically having the run of things while the super obviously town players are all in disarray

[catboi]

Well Done is a goddamn innocent child for 2111, that is not a post Luke-scum makes

[catboi]

UNVOTE:
Alright time to lock down and get into this nonsense

People I don't want to eliminate today

butterchurn
Nashville Dreams
Save The Dragons
Wallflower
Well Done
Menalque

People I think are fairly likely to flip scum

Toogeloo
catboi
MalcolmTucker
bnuuy

That's my preliminary assessment from kinda sorta skimming for the past two days. I want better reads than this.

I have to remind myself that this game has 9 (!) scum in it, and therefore there is going to be a lot of nonsense on any given page

Sword of Ducks

Save The Dragons

Tracer Bullet
MonkeyMan576

Bnuuy

Malcolm

WallFlower

Menalque

Norwegian
Cat Scratch Fever

Toogeloo

MegaZumarill
Enchant

Butterchurn

Tictac
Klick

The Keeper

Well Done

Nashville Dreams

Mastina
cassowary

catboi

I am vibing with this reads list

I colored Klick's last reads list onto this list that they agree with and don't understand why they agree with it. Some explanation would be nice.

That is also way more attention to detail than I can afford t have right now, good catch

[catboi]

I don't have a particularly strong read on bnuuy. Actually, for a 9-scum game I'm disappointed that I can't seem to obtain a decent scumread on anyone in particular. I'm struggling to decide how scum would play the position is the problem, I think.

Rule out the people who are super obviously town, group together the rest, and you've got decent odds of hitting scum regardless. Respectable response to well done though

[Lukewarm]

Well Done is a goddamn innocent child for 2111, that is not a post Luke-scum makes

That was a dunn post

[Well Done]

Well Done is a goddamn innocent child for 2111, that is not a post Luke-scum makes

That was a dunn post

Whoops again

[catboi]

I think that Flavor Leaf's reaction to getting scumread by Well Done fucking sucks. The progression from scum reading them -> calling them wrong town -> getting tilted at them and calling them liock scum is super sketchy. It doesn't look like a genuine evaluation but scum shifting through different angles trying to get the heat off them. It's a very Prism-esque progression, it just feels very fake. The attacks read more like playing offense to play defense because he's really bothered by the scumread on him. I would think that if he had truly gotten frustrated with Well Done and thought they were town just dumbly tunneled on him, he'd just back off and stop engaging with them, but instead he keeps going and 180s. The only reason I can see for this happening is because he's

really

bothered by their scumread on him and wants to discredit it. There's not even really a possibility he gets yeeted Day 1, he just wants to stamp out all opposition to him.

[bnuuy]

Hey I’ve been a bit busy in the past day or so
I’ll probably catch up a bit on what I’ve missed today

[catboi]

Well Done is a goddamn innocent child for 2111, that is not a post Luke-scum makes

That was a dunn post

Whoops again

oh, lmfao, I got thrown off by Dunn referring to himself in the third person