In post 2362, Titus wrote:After 1575, I gave Ari concrete data showing the data matched and Ari didn't address it at all. Instead she pushed Implosion. Ari is literally trying to excuse the absence of aggressive Mathblade behavior by saying it fails solely because she's in the game. She's the only one who can persuade Math to abandon a tunnel. She's the only one who can scare town!Math that he doesn't play to his meta. I can't see town!Ari having that level of hubris.
Titus and Math switched posting styles on d2, you heard it here first.
if anyone wants to make a case for why this is scum mathblade I will read it
Spoiler at EoD1
I ignored that because it said I was scum with HEM and I find that ridiculous
Only in a Hectic game could that possibly make sense. Hectic doesn’t use traditional setups and likes to turn things on their heads. In any regular setup though, Titus’ read on you is whack.
In post 2411, Titus wrote:If I am wrong on your wagon Math, the only slot that really makes sense is StD.
Talk about your read there please.
what about implosion?
he literally unvoted HEM and was preparing to vote for mathblade..
I'm open to it if there's a good reason to TR Mathblade.
Implosion/StD actually might be a thing if Math is town.
My only concern with STD is he so confidently tr me straight out of the gate. That’s not at all surprising for say a Gamma or Roden but I question why STD has expressed absolutely no paranoia on me, because he generally isn’t so quick to give me a confident tr right out of the gate. I still think that being on the Math wagon however is a good look but the complete lack of paranoia on my slot does still concern me.
Almost does a lot of heavy lifting there since I am VT
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 2607, Bellaphant wrote:I mean it still could've been a scum pick, but I can validate it mechanically
If you’re VT then if you picked on that row then either Enchant Ausuaka or Harley would be what you picked
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 2609, Titus wrote:Hey, I know I tunneled on Math and Math's still likely scum, but technically Ausuka wouldn't have an absolute guilty.
Yep.
Can’t be as I am VT
I kinda read this as e scum gambit but that will resolve itself
*shrug*
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Ah, well he most likely isn't Cop, or a PR at all tbh since he's at the bottom of the draft. But yeah I agree that he always checks you in that situation.
Why did you think you were shot?
In a bit of arrogance, because my solve is right at least on Mathblade and Ari or my only two other compromise slots contain scum. Most likely my theory is just right and scum know I am a dog with a bone.
Do you believe that if one of them is scum, they always shoot you last night? What are the chances of WIFOM there? Does it make much sense to keep you alive to make you doubt your read on them?
If Math is scum, yes. Math knows that I will demand more than he is capable of as scum. Is there a possibility he's town. Yes. But given he matches his scum meta and can't support any of his reads, I don't see why to change. The policy lim threat on me is a bonus.
I want to see some dialogue from him if he's town. I don’t see how a conversation is "hoop after hoop". Town!Math would love engaging on VCA but just isn't giving it to me. Instead he whines that I'm spamming.
I'm trying to give him every opportunity to explain reads in a conversational fashion. A readwall with reasons works too if he'd rather keep the post count down.
I just need something.
In post 2421, Titus wrote:In fact, if I give Math what he wants, that actually makes it easier to lim him because people won't view his lack of content as stress induced and have less sympathy for him. Posting a simple idea repeatedly causes people to entrench. If I was going to eliminate him without listening, I'd shut up after making my initial point. However, my initial point doesn't give him much to defend himself with and results in a tunnel fight. So I'm giving him every chance to put forth any intelligent, reasoned and non-OMGUS reads before I tune out.
Alright.
I claim Voyeur. Titus, I targeted you last night. Nobody else visited you last night, so if Math wasn't blocked in any way then he has to be town.
I'm claiming now for a couple reasons. I think you two are TvT and I think it would be more helpful if you got on the same page sooner rather than later. Plus, Voyeur is a low priority threat to scum anyway since it only has niche uses, so I'm not particularly afraid of scum knowing my role. And if they want to kill or block me, then other PRs get to put in work for free which is fine by me.
This is really interesting but Roden can join Ari and probably Gamma in my locktown reads list.
In post 2614, Titus wrote:Ausuka has no reason to lie, but that doesn't mean an absolute 1 v 1.
Implosion with me?
Ausuka can just jail you if we're right or wrong.
I don’t see the point honestly.
If Enchant confirms me as town, then we can take time and think about things
If not I am the best elim for town even though I am a miselim
So I kinda don’t want to compromise right now
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Again, why would i do that as scum when HEM clearly had no staying power and was a goon?
because at that point in the game titus was pushing mathblade very hard and HQ was leaning towards voting there after mathblade pissed her off so he was a viable mislim
If mathblade is town he sure as hell still is a viable miselim.
If mathblade is town and had been mislimmed yesterday, HEM sure as hell would be going down today.
Again: what would be my motivation as scum to tank my credit for being on the HEM wagon and instead waffle like this in order to secure a miselimination that probably would happen at some point anyway to save a doomed scumbuddy?
HEM would have been going down regardless of what Math flipped.
I can think of a few scum gambits where she has reason to lie but if Enchant or someone doesn’t confirm me as town I am eating a mis elim and will leave last reads
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
