LOST (Game Over)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ceph will get going whenever he gets going

[T-Bone]

Feel Ceph has been going for awhile. He's fine. Leave Brittany alone

[JohnnyFarrar]

Klick

MalcolmTucker (revisit)

Cephrir

Malakittens
Frogsterking
Enchant
BlueBlooded Toffee
The Toad

Notes for isos I still wanna do

[JohnnyFarrar]

I can see why wagons sprung up, because you would expect someone who clearly has a reputation for being decent at this game to be a leader here, but this game is hard and I don't have much direction either. Yes this could be faked and they're clearly self aware, but i'm tempted to call this slot town.

My problem with Ceph right now is his post 929 where he claims he hasn't even started playing yet.

When will Ceph start playing? Has he started now? Why hadn't he started then?

Clearly Ceph isn't going to be a town leader. By choice. Is that scummy? I dunno but it feels anti-town, as does his post about me at 1493

I mean I'd say that kinda play isn't any more anti town than my play. Town doesn't always play optimally

[Rad]

My problem voting The toad here is that 1129 and 1130 feel townie to me, and I wonder if he's just legit sick and hasn't been able to keep up yet. 1798 while short, feels sincere. I feel like he could be town who doesn't give a fuck if he's lim'd. I hope a town!Toad comes in and puts out enough townie vibes to survive, but I can't deny that he's also just a scum read of mine right now.

I would prefer giving him a couple days to recoup and redeem.

Actually I'll unvote and re-vote of this is a thing in the morning that I feel comfortable doing.

UNVOTE:

[T-Bone]

Okay you can move Toad to red for me, Pooky. Gonna sit with it for a bit, see if it feels right.

[Rad]

I can see why wagons sprung up, because you would expect someone who clearly has a reputation for being decent at this game to be a leader here, but this game is hard and I don't have much direction either. Yes this could be faked and they're clearly self aware, but i'm tempted to call this slot town.

My problem with Ceph right now is his post 929 where he claims he hasn't even started playing yet.

When will Ceph start playing? Has he started now? Why hadn't he started then?

Clearly Ceph isn't going to be a town leader. By choice. Is that scummy? I dunno but it feels anti-town, as does his post about me at 1493

I mean I'd say that kinda play isn't any more anti town than my play. Town doesn't always play optimally

Yeah I know, and I agree. But how am I supposed to discern town from scum if not looking at townie vs anti-town?

I don't have a scum or town read on either of you, but I'm very much "wtf is going on here" for both. Both of you have dipped into town leaning territory here and there for whatever reason, probably just vibes. Ceph dipped a bit into scum leaning due to his 1493 which I leaned towards a scum motivation over jaded town motivation.

[The toad]

My problem voting The toad here is that 1129 and 1130 feel townie to me, and I wonder if he's just legit sick and hasn't been able to keep up yet. 1798 while short, feels sincere. I feel like he could be town who doesn't give a fuck if he's lim'd. I hope a town!Toad comes in and puts out enough townie vibes to survive, but I can't deny that he's also just a scum read of mine right now.

I would prefer giving him a couple days to recoup and redeem.

Actually I'll unvote and re-vote of this is a thing in the morning that I feel comfortable doing.

UNVOTE:

I mean, I promise I do legitimately feel sick! I wouldn't lie about that. And it's not like I'm somehow incapable of churning out content as scum - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go is an example without having to out my main. It's a lot harder to read through a 26 player game and actually sort people while also dealing with a less-than-clear mind. That's why I asked people if there was anything specific they wanted me to answer or look at but I don't think anyone responded? Idk.

[Bell]

Malcolm gets "my username is just my first and last name" points (pls don't dox us)

Mal was uneasy about Pooky townreads really early

428 looks poignant.

@Bell

what makes you think Mal dies d1 a lot?

I like the pushback on t-Bones post restriction push

I don't like Mal +1ing frogs idea to just make them use all their words

Mal townreads dweelee for a pooky vote???

@Mal

state your beef w/Pookington

1. Misrecalled, I skimmed a few games with them in it and they always seemed to be getting pressured for style/grammar. It was an oppos, but it kind of had a maybe happy ending through Luke's identification.
But it could be totally wrong. their posting hasn't been great since.

I don't think there's a case to be made for scum Penguin in the same way that there isn't a way to case someone who has never posted.
It's the Dunnstral problem.

[Rad]

Hey Toad. I think it's relevant if you read Corwin here.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Pooky before we get near a real flip, I think you should share your doc editing rights with someone you can trust, so we can keep up that spreadsheet in case you're targeted. Cause damn it's so good.

VOTE: Toad

be the change you want to see in the world T-Bone

Oof I'm tempted, but following CSF?

dw this cat will lead us to victory. We might have to take a few detours and U-turns, but we'll get there

[The toad]

Kinda like Corwin on a vibes level?

granted ill reeval if mala continues to do nothing but im way happier with her than other low content slots right now so i can certainly understand how frogsterking arrived at the same conclusion

I am... actually surprised how acceptable I find this.

This post seems towny in that it seems to show evaluation? It's not like impossible to come from scum but I think scum Corwin is more likely to keep pushing on Mala here

[Bellaphant]

2080 is super town, tbone! What's your issue with cat.
?

[Rad]

My problem voting The toad here is that 1129 and 1130 feel townie to me, and I wonder if he's just legit sick and hasn't been able to keep up yet. 1798 while short, feels sincere. I feel like he could be town who doesn't give a fuck if he's lim'd. I hope a town!Toad comes in and puts out enough townie vibes to survive, but I can't deny that he's also just a scum read of mine right now.

I would prefer giving him a couple days to recoup and redeem.

Actually I'll unvote and re-vote of this is a thing in the morning that I feel comfortable doing.

UNVOTE:

I mean, I promise I do legitimately feel sick! I wouldn't lie about that. And it's not like I'm somehow incapable of churning out content as scum - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go is an example without having to out my main. It's a lot harder to read through a 26 player game and actually sort people while also dealing with a less-than-clear mind. That's why I asked people if there was anything specific they wanted me to answer or look at but I don't think anyone responded? Idk.

So many relevant players in that game. Thanks for the link. I'll take a look tomorrow.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

@Amphibious friend of the toad variety - I'd be most interested in your updated read on Galron, Roden, Johnny, and Taly. Also when you said you liked bbt and bella less earlier, was that a scumlean or just a less confident town read?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky before we get near a real flip, I think you should share your doc editing rights with someone you can trust, so we can keep up that spreadsheet in case you're targeted. Cause damn it's so good.

VOTE: Toad

be the change you want to see in the world T-Bone

Oof I'm tempted, but following CSF?

dw this cat will lead us to victory. We might have to take a few detours and U-turns, but we'll get there

I will legit be sad if CSF is somehow scum here[she's not]

[Cephrir]

Pooky does that as scum too, tho usually later in the game. Sometimes as cover while calling other ppl lazy.
I’m correcting the record.

How many games as scum vs. town though? I’ve hydra’d with him a lot and he usually doesn’t effort this much as scum. especially since he’s not trying to control the game or push an agenda.

We’re on the same page(mostly played with Pooky scum)

But he didn’t do anything in Pokemon. Pooky rarely efforts like this as scum. He isn’t trying to control the game or push any kind of agenda, so what’s his motive here if scum?

i won't suggest that he's just doing this to look busy - he's too good to need such a lame tactic

however, i think it's at least possible that he's just doing this because it entertains him, and i think that doing whatever sounds fun to him explains much of pooky's motivation as any alignment

[Cephrir]

Mal townreads dweelee for a pooky vote??? @Mal state your beef w/Pookington

that's Sir Pookington IV to you

[Cephrir]

After doing some reading, I am narrowed down where I want to move my vote to either Corwinoid and The Toad, but struggling to decided between the two.

Maybe they should just be dueling wagons?

poke one of them with something sharp and see if the results make you want to swap or not

[Rad]

Kinda like Corwin on a vibes level?

granted ill reeval if mala continues to do nothing but im way happier with her than other low content slots right now so i can certainly understand how frogsterking arrived at the same conclusion

I am... actually surprised how acceptable I find this.

This post seems towny in that it seems to show evaluation? It's not like impossible to come from scum but I think scum Corwin is more likely to keep pushing on Mala here

What about a Scum!Corwin trying to appeal to ceph?

[Cephrir]

Okay, I had been debating writing up a "I think that pooky would totally be down for doing this whole spread sheet thing as scum, because as scum he is not really reading the thread too closely, but this gives him a nice excuse to be active and posting, and look town, while really just having to keep an eye out for massive reads lists -- Plus, it is clear that pooky just had the idea that a massive table would be cool and I think he could both have that idea and decide to follow through with it as either alignment --- and like all in all, it is

probably[/i still more likely to come from town pooky, but I don't think people should just write him off as town just for it" But decided it wasn't worth it since, it felt like a lot to put out there to just land on "still leaning town, but don't forever bin"

But, I actually find that catch about his reads changing quietly on the spreadsheet as ++town for him.

Also, Rad moves from "town enough for day 1" to Town for finding that.

yeah that's not bad Sir Pookington IV can live today

[Cephrir]

you would expect someone who clearly has a reputation for being decent at this game to be a leader here

im not really a leader

sometimes i take the reins after all the natural leaders are dead

but most of the time i prefer to follow and am generally not good at persuading others to my point of view

[Cephrir]

When will Ceph start playing? Has he started now?

kinda

[Cephrir]

his post about me at 1493

the subtext is for you to consider being less easily pocketed, not advice to scum

[Rad]

Ceph don't worry about leading, just read corwin and toad for real and give your thoughts.