DHSDSM alpha: Game Over.

[Raging Wishbone]

It's Ortohoops guys. Please take a look at all of these daytalk threads from Lovers Multiball...

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... start=2575

Please go to

post#2593

and click on each of these links to quicktopics...

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Mafia
Werewolves
ThAdmiral & Xtoxm/DarlaBlueEyes
DrippingGoofball/Spacecase/OpposedForce/starrie & Darox/Raffles/wolframnhart
Crazy & Knight of Cydonia/farside22
Waltwishbone & Raging Rabbit
charter & Cephrir
Adel/Ennui2778 & Toaster Strudel/pwnz
Harvey Pew & ace1217cerebus3
Alabaska J & kloud1516/dybeck

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EVERY SINGLE one, the posts are all in reverse order. Look at our and Jscopes posts from this game, the posts are numbered in reverse order!!!

The ONLY daytalk that starts at 1 and goes in a choronological (by dates, post number) order is Ortohoops. I am not going to vote I would like to hear what you Jscope and RR think. I also would like to hear if Ortohoops has a logical explanation for this, but those are my feelings....

Please take a look at these posts again, side by side...





...and



Also reading through Ortolans game as Godfather here,

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 53&start=0

It just reads to me as the same way he has approached this game. He flew under the radar, like he was "spoon feeding us cough sryup and yet told us it was candy." Like a "Dentists saying a shot of novocaine won't hurt", lol...

@RR - You were in that game with him, what is your "scum"Orto read?

This is how I feel would love to hear opinions...

Just posting this again in response to Fruit loops post..

AGAIN

, and to be clear I made a mistake voting for Fruit hoops... I should have waited to hear everyone else opinion... It does not FUCKING matter anymore...

When JSCOPE did not hammer us it proved Jscope town and the scum is either us or Fruit hoops.

Right or wrong, he implied my post was retarded for no reason... I warned him not to do it again....and he called me Fruity.... So I got angry voted for him, Omgussed him without and care in the world...same way we kinda nailed yos/Nuwen and the way me and RR nailed Sleepy panada/Armix...

lol, read that discussion in Lovers multiball it makes me and Fruits hoops convo seem like an argument for a parking space, rofl....

Anyways, Hoops big case on us is not posting our beta pages... No worries, I got no problem doing it when he posts hi 5,6, 7.... all he needs to do is post the time and date and a few words...gah

[Raging Wishbone]

@Also scumbag Hoops I wont point out that you already lost this fucking game when you tried to convice me and RR to lynch JSCOPE... When we refused and pointed out how bad your daytalk was you went after us! Sorry Fruity...you lost.

[Raging Wishbone]

Lastly Jscope - you are the one who wanted to know why Fruit Hoops was not lynched today? It was a n ecellent question adnd got us here...

Sorry guys, I got pissed off, bithed, whined and moaned and omgusssed fruit loops, but when JSCope did not lynch us RR...we learned he was town Too...

The game is your to win or lose Jscope, please win this one for TOWN.

[ortolan]

Still no defence of your post 17 compared to 14 after all the times I've brought it up?

[Raging Wishbone]

Still no defence of your post 17 compared to 14 after all the times I've brought it up?

Lol, dude there is no contradiction between 14 and 17, I aksed rr how incam was killed... I had no clue how the set up of a Deep South game worked....he hleped me.

Why do you think scum did not kill you over NYBALLS? me or Jscoe... Why did you want jscope dead until I voted ya. So now you are convinced I am scum?

You lost tihis game as scum fruit hoops when you told me you have ETHICS!

[ortolan]

You clearly asked "when was the kill put in; when he had 5 votes or before?", which implies obviously firstly that you know he was killed; and secondly; that you are asking your scumbuddy when the kill was put in.

Then in 17 you are clearly feigning ignorance after knowing your quicktopic will be audited, pretending you can't understand how someone died with only five votes on them.

[Raging Wishbone]

You clearly asked "when was the kill put in; when he had 5 votes or before?", which implies obviously firstly that you know he was killed; and secondly; that you are asking your scumbuddy when the kill was put in.

Then in 17 you are clearly feigning ignorance after knowing your quicktopic will be audited, pretending you can't understand how someone died with only five votes on them.

rofl, he was dead idiot! We all had knowledge of it. rofl, Dude do you read at all or do you just make this shit up as you go along.

...actually you are trying to deflect the whole numbering thing aint ya? And I am hlping by buying nto to your bullshit? yes no maybe....

What did you have an epiphany Genius? Did you discover the fourth mening of fruit accord ing to some online dictionary? rofl...oh boy, you are a piece f work...

[Raging Wishbone]

Still no defence of your post 17 compared to 14 after all the times I've brought it up?

Lol, dude there is no contradiction between 14 and 17, I aksed rr how incam was killed... I had no clue how the set up of a Deep South game worked....he hleped me.

Why do you think scum did not kill you over NYBALLS? me or Jscoe... Why did you want jscope dead until I voted ya. So now you are convinced I am scum?

You lost tihis game as scum fruit hoops when you told me you have ETHICS!

You cant win as scum can you...cant wait to see ya explain this to the rest of the town, rofl!

[Raging Wishbone]

@Ortho - Please answer my questions NAO!

[J-Scope]

Ugh... Jahudo... you take care of this. I haven't been able to keep with this...

[Raging Wishbone]

...So this is RR again, and I gotta admit the last 4 pages with all the gay banter are fucking hilarious. Big props to orthoops for playing this almost flawlessly and totally convincing me that they're town, and also for maintaining a calm approach throughout the night's onslaught. Unfortunately for them, at this point I think it should be rather obvious that they're scum.

Some of Walt's points don't apply at all (I myself have the quicktopic numbered the same way as orthoops), some like the ethics thing I'm not sure I understand properly and he's not around to explain right now, he had a quick chat with me on Ort being scum and a bastard and went to sleep. A cursory look at Orthoops' early play shows some examples of SK hunting that's typical of scum, but other than that I don't see much and don't think it'd do much good for me to start nitpicking their well played early game for any tiny hint of them being scum when they've had me so convinced of their towniness up until now. However, two major points that should make things simple:

A.

I realise this doesn't prove much and potentially makes us look scummy because it has us speculating about a second mafia, which could well imply we are in the first mafia

The whited out stuff included references to beta.

To explain: the test post was for comparing the difference between US time and my time so I could work out how your timestamps compared to Adel's

The edit was when I originally edited the post to remove beta related content (it then made the next post nonsensical as I said so I took that out as well, but it's there now, although it doesn't say anything). The reason I didn't edit out this edit stamp this time though is that I realised you can just edit any post you made and make entirely fake logs and simply take out the "edited" stamp, like I could have done- the posts will still have the original posting time. So this method of verifying ourselves has in fact proven nothing at all.

I will say however that I think it's more of a scumtell that your qt was so much bigger than both ours and J-Scope's, but that you could only selectively quote one post at a time whereas we were happy to post ours in their entirety. I will also point out that I caught you blatantly contradicting yourself between posts 14 and 17 (which you have proven yourself unable to explain), which really should be enough to end the game at this point. I won't point out that your play has reeked of scum all game and Yoswen did call you scummy before they were lynched- we all assumed this was reverse WIFOM and they were trying to implicate a townie by pretending to "fake-suspect" them, but the other conclusion, that they were providing a busing advantage was clearly the correct one.

If Jahudo intends to vote for me I will happily answer any questions he has, but for now I am waiting for his decision.

1. Both ort and Hoops were very active at the start of the game. Why so little talk, then? Why doesn't hoops even mention her thoughts on the lynching quick plan she pushed hard for early in the game? Why no talk about who's scum, other than another scumgroup? Simple answer, which is the only one that makes sense - they did most of their talking in the scum thread.
2. Why the fuck would they tag me and Walt as part of the "other scumgroup" without even mentioning the possibilty we're scum

with

Yos and Trots? They know we aren't, 'cause they are, and the only scumhunting they're doing is looking for potential other bad guys.
3. Why did ort black out so much in the first post, then suddenly revealed lines like hoops saying "nah, that's probably just Yos and Trotsky's scumgroups' name"? I smell foul play.


B. If you reread just after nyba's kill, you can clearly tell how orthoops is getting ready to vote J-Scope along with us to end the game. You can also clearly tell how Walt is beginning to have second thoughts, and how he complicates things and starts this whole discussion that lead to 'Scope having the call on who wins this.

Why, oh why, would scum-Walt want to complicate things when Ort is so willing to vote Scope along with him and hand scum-Walt he win?

Ort's gonna call WIFOM on this, but why go there when you have a so much simpler route to winning by basically doing nothing? Read 26-28 and you can clearly tell how ort was acting in complete accordance with a scum plan to kill nyba and lynch J-Scope, while Walt obviously wasn't.



Jahudo, take a good hard look at these. You've got 'till 1200 May 14th UTC to decide before Ort wins this.

[J-Scope]

Vote: Ortohoops

I'm sorry but I haven't been truthful. When RW voted I thought he was setting up a gambit (he misspelled the vote), and I wanted to make sure that Adel's rules allowed the vote to pass.

I am scum. I'm sorry for the cases you've made that weren't going to help you.

[ortolan]

oh wow

that is quite horrendous

[ortolan]

that actually seriously makes me want to retire from mafia permanently

[Raging Wishbone]

[Raging Wishbone]

Forget the time I just spent trying to rework my entire gameview... What really pains me is how devastated Walt's gonna be.

[Saunt Adelaus]

ortolan, Townie, has been lynched. Raging Wishbone, Townie, was endgamed.

J-Scope, the Mafia Godfather, and his Armenian Mafia win!

Good game everyone.

I'll post night actions and my notes and unlock this thread once beta is over. Thanks for playing, I hope you enjoyed the game.

Good luck in beta!

[Saunt Adelaus]

Bump and unlock because beta is over.

[PokerFace]

Link to post / MD thread made after this game had finished where some elements of this game was discussed:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 97#1679097

[JDodge]

This game is one of my shining moments. The only person I got a great opinion on was Yoswen, and I feel that I pretty much pushed that entire wagon to its end. I'm extraordinarily proud of this bit.

[PokerFace]

p sure SWSWC did more Yos pushing and activity pushing than anyone else. They were town MVP here

[PokerFace]

They also took out Trotsky scum despite the mistake of also taking me out