Teleportation Mafia Universe TWO (TOWN WINS)

[FeFiFoFum]

Day 5 Vote Count

Nachomamma8 ( 0 )
Plum ( 1 ) fefifofum
fefifofum ( 0 )
Kise ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 3 ) Plum Nachomamma8 Kise
Total ( 4 )

With 4 alive, 3 needed to lynch.
Deadline is at March 29th at 11:00 EDT

Okay, So if both universe have someone in the same universe there could be two kills on one universe. or they could split.

[Nachomamma8]

The mafia are allowed 1 kill for either universe they're in. Which means that it's likely we have 2 townies and a Mafia B and a Mafia A or maybe even 3 townies and a Mafia A or 3 townies and a Mafia B. I don't think we have a mix of Mafia people because we're so close to endgame; I think scum would go for the win in this universe rather than killing in the other...

[FeFiFoFum]

Can scum share a win condition? Wouldn't they have to eliminate the other scum from the other universe to win?

[Nachomamma8]

Mhm. Which is why I think we'd be seeing 2 kills a night...

The invader Mafia would go for the surprise attack to take the resident Mafia out, and the resident Mafia would have no reason to stop killing.

[FeFiFoFum]

Does it say it in the rules somewhere that the two different universe mafia can share a win? I thought they would have to eliminate eachother?

[Nachomamma8]

4. Yes, Mafia A and B are different teams and have win conditions that are antithetical to each other if they are in the same universe.

And for clarification, my "Mhm" was to your second question, not the first.

[zorastermod]

Day 5 Vote Count

Nachomamma8 ( 0 )
Plum ( 1 ) fefifofum
fefifofum ( 0 )
Kise ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 3 ) Plum Nachomamma8 Kise
Total ( 4 )

With 4 alive, 3 needed to lynch.
Deadline is at March 29th at 11:00 EDT

[FeFiFoFum]

Thank you kind sir for the updated vote count lol
What do you all think of the case built on Myko ? I agree that he and evil snail are amongst my top scum picks for that universe. (that is those who were not transfered there).

[Plum]

Lets say there were 3 scum left in this Verse yesterday. That means they tried to Teleport SL out for the win and got screwed by our Teleporter. That would mean we have two Uni 2 scum left today (this is regardless of what you think of me). In that case we either need to lynch right today, meaning lynch Uni 2 scum today.

If there were 2 Uni 2 scum left yesterday, then they would have used their Teleport aiming for LYLO. I don't think they'd have done this unless the Teleporter was under some amount of pressure; that would probably be FFFF in that case.

DRK is scum; luckily she's not our problem at the moment. Here's the thing: DRK defends Anon against Ani pretty extensively - something I see as rather unlikely for her to do with a buddy. That means Nacho is more likely Town.

With Kise it's a bit different; he barely says anything to/about DRK and she says little to/about him. But more shady, but that pales in comparison to FFFF/DRK. Just to give you a sampling:

Oh, wow, fawfawefasdklfa is at L-1. Right now, all I have on him is a weak gut scum read on him, whereas we have solid reasoning on ani. Then again, a weak anything read is more than I have on some people in this game.

Roughly my order of "I want to see this person lynched"
animorpherv1
fhqwhads
Kise
Nicodemus
Starbuck
Anon
FeFiFoFum
Lowell
Plum (if she's scum, she's likely to be dealt with by one of the scum teams)

Also, irrelevant, but there's a typo in the following rule:

7. There will be a quicktime for the dead.

Gut scum read, which is more than she has on some people . . . namely two, me and Lowell. He's definitely at the bottom of her list.

Vote: ani

. Definitely the best lynch candidate we have.

Ffff is quickly rising in scumminess though. Lowell's WIFOM aside, ffff has no joined two wagons with no reasoning and seems to have barely read the game, if at all. Bandwagoning people that look like they might be lynched without knowing what's going on=bad.

(I will give you ffff though. Whereas I didn't find Elmo scummy, I have serious doubts as to whether ffff even read the game. He sounds like he's just parotting thoughts from other players with no real substance to his posts.)

Meh at ffff's summary of the ani case. Looks too much like it was stolen word-for-word from other people.

My scumlist from 3 pages ago. Good to know you read my posts so closely.

Move ffff a few spots higher. Maybe move Starbuck a spot lower, but not much important has happened since then.

I could see a FFFF-SL scum team. I could see SL telling FFFF to bus when he replaced in and I can see FFFF taking the opportunity to get his vote off his buddy by voting Lowell.

Unless someone comes up with some sort of decent explanation as to how Lowell is scummier than SL, I don't see why we aren't lynching her. If/when she flips scum, it has the added benefit of making FFFF almost obv-scum.

Notice the progression of mild aggression without acting on it. I call distancing. FFFF is clearly the best candidate for scum-with-DRK.

I'm not scum and I don't believe I've ever been asked to answer to specific issues there; if you have specific problems manifested here, or in Uni 1, I'd be glad to address them.

[FeFiFoFum]

If we have one uni 1 and one uni 2 scum out of the 4 of us, and we lynch either of them today. They kill one of us tonight and they win? Or only if they hit a teleporter assuming we still have one?

[Kise]

FFFF's awfully interested in knowing how mafia can win...

Vote: FeFiFoFum

I don't look much into DRK's references to Elmo/FFFF, but it's still something to consider for the rest of you. Something set me off earlier with Elmo, and FFFF gives me a worse feeling about him. Not sure if you explained it fully what the difference was between your vote on ani/spring and Lowell's vote, but I still call hypocrisy on accusing Lowell for using others' cases when you did the same.

[Nachomamma8]

Let's see here.

Kise suspects FFFF.
Plum suspects Kise and FFFF.
FFFF suspects Plum.

I could see all three of you as scum. But I'm tired of a slow-paced game, so I'll do some reading up soon.

[Plum]

Nah, I suspect FFFF, Kise has an outside chance of being scum, and you're very very unlikely to be scum.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: FeFiFoFum

Mind's made up. Whether I'm right or wrong is the question, but I'm pretty confident in this vote.

[Kise]

I can't see Anon flipping out like he did if he wasn't town. He was posting in other games so if he was scum here, he could have kept playing since his buddies weren't being lynched. That's my reason for trusting you, Nacho.

I actually didn't know Mafia-A could kill in this universe if they were here.. but it's been said that they probably have a better chance killing at night in the other universe, so I've thrown out thinking that Plum is Mafia-A.

Neither Elmo or FFFF looked good to me.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm not sure Plum is scum (hehe i am master rhymer), but thanks to the clarification in Rule #9, we should be able to stall tomorrow long enough for the other universe to get a lynch and toss someone else in here. I'd recommend teleporting Plum out from this universe if you survive the night, but I'll make sure she gets lynched tomorrow in case you don't. Best case scenario is Plum being a townie and us winning with FFFF's death, but there's no harm in being prepared for the worst.

Plum, hammer scum when ready.

[Plum]

I'm quite ready, and I'm pretty sure this is for the win.

Vote: FeFiFoFum

[Plum]

EBWOP: Sorry DRK for referring to you in the feminine.

[zorastermod]

Day 5 Vote Count

Nachomamma8 ( 0 )
Plum ( 1 ) fefifofum

fefifofum ( 3 ) Kise Nachomamma8 Plum

Kise ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 0 )
Total ( 4 )

FeFiFoFum the Mafia B Teleporter has been Lynched

Town 2 wins!

This Universe is now CLOSED. No Teleportations or Pulls may be made to or from this universe now

The following are our winners:

DocPotter the Town (2) Townie

Jahudo the Town (2) Townie

Jack the Town (2) Townie

VP Baltar

Kairyuu

the Town (2) Townie

fhqwhads the town (2) townie

Nicodemus the Town (2) Townie

Lowell the Town (2) Townie

Rhinox the Town (1) Townie

Nachomamma8 the Town (2) Teleporter

Plum the Town (1) Townie

Kise the Town (2) Townie

The four who were left alive will now be given access to the Dead QT.

[zorastermod]

Postgame chat will take place in universe 1:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 85#2211685