[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[drmyshottyizsik]

once again a mass claim kills the game.

[gandalf5166]

once again a mass claim kills the game.

How? The roles are random, role says nothing.

[drmyshottyizsik]

oh well then that dumb because mafia millers is a bad idea

[CSL]

Mafia Millers don't exist. Nonsensical.

[drmyshottyizsik]

then how could the roles be random?

[bv310]

Mafia Millers would simply be told their role, then would be aligned with the mafia and investigate as Mafia, i.e. a Goon. The BPs would be like Godfathers, and every other role has a scum counterrole.

[gandalf5166]

oh well then that dumb because mafia millers is a bad idea

Ummm...... You're kidding, right?

[Twomz]

No, the conspiracy nut can be mafia, if so he will investigate as such... but he would investigate as scum even if he was town cause he's a miller. If Carlin is mafia the same will occur, but if he's targeted by someone who is a miller, then he'll be 'investigation immune' mafia until the end of the game.

Shirley Temple is guaranteed to not be mafia or sk, everything else is fair game.

[The Fonz]

The tracker seems a bit much. There are no town night actions, so he's only a TINY bit less powerful than a cop. One question though: can the roleblocker both roleblock and kill the same night?

You are, of course, kidding?

[mykonian]

Desert Island Mafia

Shirley Temple - Innocent Child (cannot be mafia or miller)
Sherlock Holmes - Cop
Columbo - Cop
Jack Sparrow - Roleblocker
Marilyn Monroe - Roleblocker
Conspiracy Nut - Miller, all who target him become miller's as well (retain's abilities)
George Carlin - Miller, if targeted by someone who is a miller, shows as innocent
Theodore Roosevelt - Bulletproof
Dio - Bulletproof

Roles will be assigned at random, then alignments will be assigned (2 mafia, 1 Sk, 6 town).

2-1-6 > 2-1-3 = means that you are practically in mylo already. I think the setup might be too small to have 2 mafia and a SK.

[LlamaFluff]

Setup Name: Molehill Mafia

I just ran this setup in this game. The setup is a 10:2 mountainous game, but with one modification to the vanilla/goon roles. Each player has a ranking from 1-12, and during night phases, they are allowed to target another player, making everyone a neighborizer. Anyone who targets a lower ranked player starts a QT with them. Mafia ranks can be randomized and work in any spot.

This is just a small modification to bring life back into the classic mountainous setup, a way to keep the interest in the game that is normally lost by most people who draw vanilla roles. I think this makes a good open setup, as its simple, yet still allows for heavy flavor addition for the mod while sticking to a setup that is balanced. A good inbetween setup for the open and the theme games.

[Andrius]

Setup Name: Molehill Mafia

I just ran this setup in this game. The setup is a 10:2 mountainous game, but with one modification to the vanilla/goon roles. Each player has a ranking from 1-12, and during night phases, they are allowed to target another player, making everyone a neighborizer. Anyone who targets a lower ranked player starts a QT with them. Mafia ranks can be randomized and work in any spot.

This is just a small modification to bring life back into the classic mountainous setup, a way to keep the interest in the game that is normally lost by most people who draw vanilla roles. I think this makes a good open setup, as its simple, yet still allows for heavy flavor addition for the mod while sticking to a setup that is balanced. A good inbetween setup for the open and the theme games.

I support this.

[mallowgeno]

I like it as well Llama

[Beefster]

I just had an interesting idea...

Insanity!

• 3 Mafia Goons
  
• 8 1-shot Cops of varying sanities. (randomly chosen, independently: 35% sane, 35% insane, 15% naive, 15% paranoid)
  
• 1 Psychologist (tells you the sanity of cops. If a mafia member is targeted, a random sanity is returned (with the same chance as with role assignment))

NIGHT START

[horrordude0215]

1) Is it cop headstart?
2) Do flips include sanities?

[gandalf5166]

I like it. One thing though: You might want to make two psychologists. With one, it just seems kind of swingy.

[Empking]

7 players is best players

1 Mafia Framer
1 Mafia Goon

1 Cop
1 Tracker
3 Townies

OR

2 Mafia Goons

1 Cop
4 Townies

[bv310]

^I like it. Framers don't get nearly enough use.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Really bored but here's my new idea

Every Man has a secret mafia

town

10 Men with secrets

mafia

Two Mafia black mailers- At night they get to choose one person to black mail, thus turning the person they black mailed into mafia with them.
If the mafia party how three people and it is night, then after the after the mafia chooses who to blackmail, they then also choose which of their members to kill(cannot being the same as th person black mailed)

[gandalf5166]

So the mafia is really a cult with a recruit and a kill if they get big? That's totally balanced.

[Empking]

7p Garlic

2 Mimes

1 SK

1 FBI Agent
1 Doctor
2 Vanilla Townies

[jimfinn]

So the mafia is really a cult with a recruit and a kill if they get big? That's totally balanced.

They can only kill their own, not others.

[drmyshottyizsik]

So the mafia is really a cult with a recruit and a kill if they get big? That's totally balanced.

They can only kill their own, not others.

exactly i think this open up a fun strategy, also the kill is to prevent pre mature lylo/mylo

[Herodotus]

Reminds me of Xylthixlm's Infection.
The town will automatically lose if the mafia can indefinitely replenish their numbers (up to 2) after they are lynched... so I guess drm means that they must always die when they recruit. But still, that's going to be much harder than 2:10 vanilla.

[jimfinn]

Or a rule could be put in place saying that the mafia could not recruit on the night of a successful lynch (but they could still return to 2 if they force a mislynch or NL after that)