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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:10 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:
I_Chew_On_Grass wrote:Tank: Nasus
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AD: Sivir
Jungler: Tryn
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If you give teemo AP it's way better. His basic attack power and his poisin go up with more AP, plus the shrooms and blinding dart run of it.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:24 pm

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'zerker Greaves (More mobility, faster attack speed as he has a huge damage steroid) -> Malady (This item is custom designed for Teemo) -> Blood Razors (Even more damage per hit and attack speed, stacks nicely with MR reduction of Malady) -> Whatever (My preferred choice atm is Frozen Mallet -> Banshee Veil -> Cloak and Dagger).

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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:14 pm

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I go Nashors Tooth, Sword of the Divine, Zerker Geaves, Rabadon's Deathcap, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Lich Bane
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:26 pm

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lichbane is just so bad on teemo.

Seriously. He has *no* spammable abilities unless you're holding onto three mushrooms to throw down pointlessly in a fight. Even then, you're still not going to be pric'ing it at sufficient levels to make it worth the gold cost. Nashor's is nice in general on teemo (imo), since it gives him cdr, as, and AP.

I personally tend to wait on deciding between merc treads / zerkers based on how much CC is getting thrown on top of me.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:26 pm

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Nashor's Tooth is actually not bad on a Teemo if you commit to that style, and it allows you to swap Greaves for something more hilarious, like Swiftness, if you so chose.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:25 am

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It's unusual because q is an auto-attack resetter, so you can auto-q wtf fast. For similar reasons you shouldn't have a creep be not there for you to hit, because you can manage the creeps to make sure that there is one to q when your ss is off cooldown. Yes you will miss less cooldowns and there will be times where you hit faster with sheen, but in general I find the argument that it helps farming to be overstated.

Also worth noting - I ran the calcs with 150 ss damage. Arpen and ad are multiplicative stats. The greater your ss damage, the greater the efficiency gap between the brutalizer and the sheen. The 150 is sitting on my spreadsheet - tweak it and you'll see the results in the

Youmuu's, which builds from ghostblade, also gives movespeed from its active during the fight. Nasus' base movespeed is already very good - if you're travelling with your team, then you don't need any extra movespeed to keep up. If you're going from place to place a lot, consider running teleport which is a) a beast spell and b) even better on nasus who split pushes like a boss and loves dat farm. Youmuu's is also cheaper than triforce, allowing you to get tankier faster - including building a quicker aegis if you're into that sort of thing.

To compare further, they both give identical crit%, identical flat AD. When the active is up, youmuu's gives more attack speed - when it is down, triforce gives more. Tri-force gives perma movespeed and the proc, youmuu's gives flat arpen (which has synergy with the flat reduction on nasus spirit fire - because by that stage, none of the arpen will be wasted as even squishies will be approaching 60-70 base armour) and a decent whack of cdr - a stat nasus loves. I am fairly certain that a triforce makes nasus do more damage overall than a youmuu's when the active is down - but the active is a 60 sec cd, which generally means it will be up for any teamfight. It's also 1300 gold cheaper, which is a BIG chunk of money.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:16 am

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Tank: Amumu/Maokai
AD: Caitlyn/Sivir
AP: Lux/Morgana
Jungler: Master Yi/Amumu
Beefy DPS: ...this one is still my weak point
Support: ...also this
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:32 am

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Tank: I played some of Amumu/Ramus, but I'm still looking for someone I really like as a tank
AD: Ashe (though I still need to get better with her arrows; wouldn't mind finding someone else)
AP: Malz
Jungler: Currently learning nocturne
Beefy DPS: Jarvan (kinda, haven't played him in a while), and I think I'm going to give Yorick a try
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:41 am

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Tank: Need work here, most success has come with Rammus/Shen (need better map awareness for Shen, need runes to try jungling Rammus I feel as I dislike his laning)
AD: I'm sort of trying to learn all the ranged AD types almost as a kind of specialty; best with Caitlyn, reasonably good with MF, everyone else passable but needs work (except Vayne, not enough experience with her)
AP: Anivia (out of practice, though)
Jungler: Nocturne (not enough practice here, either)
Beefy DPS: i'm so awful with most beefy dps that i've somewhat given up for now, might buy xin at some point though and try to learn him
Support: Taric/Janna
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:54 am

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Tank: Maokai, Nunu
AD: Fortune, Sivir
AP: Morgana, Swain
Jungle: Nunu, Nocturne, Warwick, Udyr, Master Yi (Need to find a ranged jungler. That'd round out my list)
Beefy: Blitzcrank, might buy Yorick
Support: Sona
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:54 am

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Tank: Alistar(ish)
AD: Corki, Tristana (but rusty)
AP: Ryze, Poppy, Sion
Jungle: Udyr, Nunu (but only on eu, don't own on us)
Beefy: Xin, Nasus, Mundo
Support: Zilean I guess
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:29 am

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Beef: Nasus/Whatever beef is free(I really like Maokai)
AD: Caitlyn(I dont own but shes amazing)/Whatever is free/Trist(I forgot I got her for free. Don't play her all that often, might start doing so more)
AP:Orianna/TF/Akali(I just got her yesterday and love what she can do)/Eve
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:45 am

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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:01 am

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AD: Caitlyn
AD: Tristana
AD: Sivir
AD: Ashe
AD: Miss Fortune
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:36 am

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Apparently Malz is going to get nerfed in the next patch :(
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:11 pm

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Tank: Cho
AD: Caitlyn
AP: Veigar/Katarina
Jungler: Olaf
Beefy DPS: Irelia/Olaf/Jarvan/learning Nasus
Support: Sona/Taric

I'm wanting to pick up a few more wizards and tanks - not especially good with Cho even by my standards but I kind of like Rammus (might give Shen a whirl as well). No idea as far as other AP types go though.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:10 pm

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Tank: Not really good with any, but I'm a decent alistar
AD: Ashe
AP: Annie
Jungler: I don't have the runes for jungling at the moment.
Beefy dps: Xin, I guess? I never really play this role.
Support: Soraka/Janna with a possible Nidalee if I get good with her.

I mostly love support. I don't really enjoy playing carries, so I tend to fill the role of tank/support when I'm premade. I never trust the people in solo queue enough for me to go support, so I tend to end up playing one of my standard carries or trying out new champs.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:30 pm

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oh and i'd like to pitch a comp that i brought up when during a skype call.


yorick/zilean/kayle/trynd/cho

zil ult trynd runs in slices shit up
trynd revives, endless rages slices shit up
endless rage ends kayle ults trynd slices shit up
yorick ults trynd, trynd revives slices shit up. (trynd finally dies)
cho is meat shield/silence/knockup dude with potential nommage.

so yeah that needs to happen sometime for much lulz.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:48 am

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I call cho
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:50 am

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Ok so I started playing this yesterday. I suck. Bad. I need someone to teach me how to actually be useful. I mean I can do alright against the bots but against other intelligent humans I fail terrabadly.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:00 am

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Have you tried the Battle Training? Which level of bots are you referring to?
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:21 am

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The easiest ones. -.-

And yes, I've done the battle training.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:48 am

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I call Yorick for that
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:42 pm

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USA dominating so far in dreamhack...

are they actually dominating or are the eu's sandbagging? [/spoiler]sandbagging is where you play bad on purpose in early matches that won't lose you the tournament. Aka you don't have to win but you do have to place[/spoiler]

I also didn't get to watch the stream today. Any cool highlights I should check out?
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:50 pm

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EU is good at finding great strategies; NA is good at perfecting them.
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