Goofbash Invitational (Game Over)

[xRECKONERx]

Self-hammering can be completely valid. I still maintain that xReck should've argued for his own lynch in the original Liten (3-1-1 endgame and he was obv getting lynched sooner or later).

can you refresh my memory on this?

[tanstalas]

Which buddies did you bus? I saw ABR. That's it.

Show me where you were L-1 on D1

K thanks.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

In hindsight, I think one of the major reasons IC got away with it is Blackberry distracting us 2 Days straight and thereby giving the scum time to shoot the right people.

Self-hammering can be completely valid. I still maintain that xReck should've argued for his own lynch in the original Liten (3-1-1 endgame and he was obv getting lynched sooner or later).

can you refresh my memory on this?

Sure.

[SensFan]

I don't feel like digging up the discussion in 62, so I'll mention what was interesting about this game.

1) Six Neighbors in one game. All Town. The original draft of the setup had ABR as a scum Neighbor (Loud Couch IIRC? It was the one Botones couldn't investigate) but I turned it down.

2) Faraday got in trouble D1. He dragged in a hydra-replacement as he was going down (questionable ethics discussion goes here). They made one of the scummiest must-lynch claims in the meta, Vengeful Townie. And through the sheer power of talking nonstop, they managed to not only not get lynched D1, they UNclaimed Vengeful Townie (this is definitely the first game I have ever heard of "unclaiming") in spite of it being the claim that saved them from getting lynched D1, got a power role who was correctly mod-outguessed to be confirmed Town lynched (remember, Minineko was a last-minute addition to the setup and it's much more likely that it'll be an extra Townie getting thrown in), and survived to endgame through a crowd of Neighbors who for the most part correctly read each other as Town.

And what's more amazing about this is that after seeing an unclaim in this game, I've seen it happen in other games. This is also yet another example of a game that SCREAMING DEATH has steamLOLled through doing what everyone already knows they do. It's like people want the meta to change so that the tactics used in this victory are

rewarded

.

so this game would be an example of what?

Why you policy lynch liars on the spot?
I don't really know what this is an example of, per se

Also Sens stop being fucking butthurt

We literally went from being at L-1 on DAY ONE, made the BALLSIEST claim ever as scum, and managed to bus both of our buddies AND our traitor and pull out a win

Stop crying. We won because we outplayed town. "Oh but the town left alive was derptown" YES, THAT'S WHY WE KILLED OFF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK

We had good play here, it was calculated, and it won us the game.

Sorry, but no. As I said, the day after my lynch, there should literally have been no possible combination of roles/actions/claims/etc that would save you from being lynched. If the Town was thinking at all, the Day should literally have lasted until 4 Town players saw the thread and voted IC. Simple as that.

[Faraday]

couch qt is a good read. thanks for sharing!

[Faraday]

Which buddies did you bus? I saw ABR. That's it.

we only had 2 lolz

[Faraday]

also looking at my wiki is cheating, and i'm never scum.

[tanstalas]

Which buddies did you bus? I saw ABR. That's it.

we only had 2 lolz

We literally went from being at L-1 on DAY ONE, made the BALLSIEST claim ever as scum, and managed to bus

both

of our buddies AND our traitor and pull out a win

[Faraday]

oh well that's not true, but he just saying how awesome we were i guess

[tanstalas]

Yeah, just taking some wind out his sails.

You bussed 1 partner.

You were never L-1 on D1 and lynching BB is lulzy, cuz he was traitor, did you even know he was traitor? And even if you did, you couldn't not vote for him

[Faraday]

well uh...we did after he faked a damn guilty?

tbf i still thought it might be vit for some reason

[Fate]

You have no idea how much I've wanted to use this game as an example for... at least a month now.

For?

[Lost Butterfly]

already posted, Fate.

all town neighbourhoods + about how we activitied our way through the game

[Fate]

^Nvm

Which buddies did you bus? I saw ABR. That's it.

we only had 2 lolz

The point is you DIDN"T bus Nikanor which was completely OBVIOUS in the whole "WHAAA HE HAD A CONFIRMABLE POWER WE LYNCHED HIM WTF?" shit.

But w/e, I'm just saying your play was good but you didn't "claim jester and then powerbus all your buddies to victory."

There's no way in HELL you can compare this to claiming masons as scum and powerbussing the third buddy D1.

now THAT would be a feat if someone did it...

[Faraday]

i prefer bussing all my buddies and convincing a vig to skip lylo

BUT TO EACH THEIR OWN FATE

[Faraday]

But w/e, I'm just saying your play was good but you didn't "claim jester and then powerbus all your buddies to victory."

oh, yeah I'd agree. we went for the LOL TOO OBVIOUS TO BE BUDDIES thing with nik

blackberry worked a dream day 2 which was great, good traitor play.

[Vi]

I don't feel like digging up the discussion in 62, so I'll mention what was interesting about this game.

1) Six Neighbors in one game. All Town. The original draft of the setup had ABR as a scum Neighbor (Loud Couch IIRC? It was the one Botones couldn't investigate) but I turned it down.

2) Faraday got in trouble D1. He dragged in a hydra-replacement as he was going down (questionable ethics discussion goes here). They made one of the scummiest must-lynch claims in the meta, Vengeful Townie. And through the sheer power of talking nonstop, they managed to not only not get lynched D1, they UNclaimed Vengeful Townie (this is definitely the first game I have ever heard of "unclaiming") in spite of it being the claim that saved them from getting lynched D1, got a power role who was correctly mod-outguessed to be confirmed Town lynched (remember, Minineko was a last-minute addition to the setup and it's much more likely that it'll be an extra Townie getting thrown in), and survived to endgame through a crowd of Neighbors who for the most part correctly read each other as Town.

And what's more amazing about this is that after seeing an unclaim in this game, I've seen it happen in other games. This is also yet another example of a game that SCREAMING DEATH has steamLOLled through doing what everyone already knows they do. It's like people want the meta to change so that the tactics used in this victory are

rewarded

.

so this game would be an example of what?

Why you policy lynch liars on the spot?
I don't really know what this is an example of, per se

Well, that's the answer Yos2 would give.

Aside from the Neighbor meta, it's an example of why letting the Screaming Death playstyle run on its own is a

bad idea

.

That could just be months of bitterness speaking; feel free to not mind me at some point.

[Faraday]

the hydra is like 50% sdc maximum, plus i think it was a little more than SCREAM TO VICTORY but eh

[Fate]

Softly caress Mina/Dram until they fell in love with you to victory**

Yeah it's just Vi being bitter.

Course SDC COUNTERS SDC and if it wasn't for that FUCKING MEDDLING traitor and his FUCKING fake guilties I had my own fake guilty on IC

[Faraday]

Softly caress Mina/Dram until they fell in love with you to victory**

i am quite loveable.

[chamber]

I think the 2 things that really won the game for the mafia here were the traitor playing amazingly well, even if I didn't think so at the time. By doing what he did he basically got 3 competent town killed, thats a lot, it really enabled your strategy of killing everyone that was on to you. The other thing was mini never succesfully bodyguarding. Had he gotten it off at any point it would've been a very different game.

[Faraday]

yeah i mean i generally just kill people who show a hint of suspicion towards me as scum, since people are so afraid to publically analyse nk's -- even though i think the meta has shifted a but back towards looking at nk's this game didn't utilise it.

if need be i was planning on pointing out all those people also suspected abr, which they did (incl. you guys day 1?) but tans never even made a case so i was fine.

[Blackberry]

MVP GOES TO...

BLACKBERRY

Day 2, the two remaining scum members, Irish Dickhead and ABR were under heavy heat. But with quick thinking and a devious plan, BB secured the next two lynches away from them and gave them time to blend back into the background and convince the town to turn on eachother. Bwhahahaha!

OK, maybe I'm not the only only MVP, but I am still very proud of myself for what I did this game. =P

[VitaminR]

I did dislike the adding of people to hydras in an ongoing game, btw, especially considering now that it was only scum that did it in this game. It did sort of give credit to Faraday's claim that he wasn't feeling this game and that his behaviour was off initially for that reason. It was also a bit at odds with the intention of the game (I mostly ignored Reck, for instance, because of not really knowing him).

[xRECKONERx]

TBF, he actually asked me to replace him, and I asked him if we could hydra instead.