League of Legends (Old)

[esuriospiritus]

I have a new best record.

I still get stomped when I play with my level 30 friends, though. Hoping I'll be able to melt their faces when I hit 30 like I currently do to people my own level. <_<

[Ankamius]

Cassiopeia wins her lane by causing the enemy AP to lose. If you force the enemy AP to not farm and be behind for a lot of the game, you have already won your lane as Cassiopeia. You do not need kills in the lane, you just need to stop them from farming.

[Papa Zito]

ROFLSTOMPED

Please don't be that player.

So what team am I on?

I thought we got drafted by some group somewhere?

I dunno, I'm not keeping up with this thread enough.

[esuriospiritus]

ROFLSTOMPED

Please don't be that player.

I'm not, normally, but that was actually a really close game until right near the end (we almost lost when they pushed mid a few times). I felt a little bit of gloating was in order.

[Papa Zito]

I don't think a little gloating is ever in order unless the other team are complete asshats. Judging by their Shaco they probably weren't.

[JDodge]

so I'm having some primary issues with Cassie so far:

#1)

smartcasting twin fang requires stationary positioning

which fucks me in the ass more than it actually helps. Even if I do manage to get them low or kill them, I'm usually so low by the end of it that I have to back as well which fucks me up. Since smartcasting twin fang requires me to hover my mouse over the enemy champ, I can't click to move, leaving me open to burst from them (esp if they have a stun or snare like Ryze or Morgana)

that's because you're just spamming e

it needs to be e-move-e-move-e-move-e-move, you should be moving while waiting for cds

#2)

ignite seems to be the only way to kill someone early game

While I can whittle away at their health with my poisons, I cannot for the life of me knock them down to 0hp. I always get them SO FUCKING LOW but I can't get that last little bit. Cassie's range isn't great and usually the enemy figures out OH SHIT I SHOULD B before they rush in at low health, so I can never snag any kills... what do

you're not ulting them, or using your ult too soon - your ult comprises a shitload of your burst

#3)

positioning for her ult is really really tricky

seriously though, what the fuck? if someone is facing you, you stun them... alright, cool, I can dig it. However, the range on her ult is terrible and its mostly just a wide range not a long range, so when I use it I have to be standing at the front of their ENTIRE enemy team with them facing me...wat

you're using it as a MUST STUN instead of a MUST BURST ALL THE THINGS move

oh and just a general problem... my biggest issue as a player so far is pushing lanes too much, and that usually happens because post-laning phase, I can't really figure out what to do. I only feel like I'm being useful if I'm killing creeps/taking down towers, so if my lane is pushed and we lack map vision, what am I to do? Dragon isn't up, I can't take baron yet, and my jungler needs his jungle creeps

get wards if your team won't get wards

patrick is right, lrn2roam

Yeah, but my main issue is that in order to get them low, I usually have to get myself low too which just makes it a useless trade

stop getting in bad positions

learn your range, abuse it, smartcast all the things

I don't think a little gloating is ever in order unless the other team are complete asshats. Judging by their Shaco they probably weren't.

^

the lol community sucks already, don't make it worse

[esuriospiritus]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see anything wrong with a little gloating when it's warranted, whether I'm the one gloating or being gloated to. As long as no one goes overboard with it. And by the time I said

anything

half of their team had already left the lobby.

You guys are acting like I spent the whole game going "LAWL PWNED UR FAEC" or something. And yeah, those people are asshats.

[Ankamius]

I'm assholes to people who deserve it. I ignore people who don't say anything and joke around with jokesters.

[xRECKONERx]

you're not ulting them, or using your ult too soon - your ult comprises a shitload of your burst

so pre-6 i dont get kills?

[Ankamius]

Pre-6 = poke and harass.

[JDodge]

you're not ulting them, or using your ult too soon - your ult comprises a shitload of your burst

so pre-6 i dont get kills?

welcome to playing AP mid

[xRECKONERx]

:'(

[PJ.]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see anything wrong with a little gloating when it's warranted, whether I'm the one gloating or being gloated to. As long as no one goes overboard with it. And by the time I said

anything

half of their team had already left the lobby.

You guys are acting like I spent the whole game going "LAWL PWNED UR FAEC" or something. And yeah, those people are asshats.

I'm in agreement with the rest of the Scum Community here, shouting ROFLSTOMPED is just a dick thing to do unless they are being asshats first. In this situation, an asshat is you.

[Timeater]

Can you spam macro in LoL?

[TheButtonmen]

No there isn't enough Orbital Commands.

[MrZepher]

no, your build is just right on the AP. You should go boots and catalyst then build Rylai's than either a veil or RoA. the FoN and your other tanky items

Don't build RoA after Rylai's.

indeed, that'd just be fucking dumb

RoA needs to be your first big item or you need to not buy it at all tbh, it takes 10 minutes to stack and buying an item that doesn't become very gold-efficient until 10 minutes after you buy it isn't your friend mid/late-game

Dyrus and a couple of other pros disagree with you. Catalyst -> Boots -> Rylai's. Then build RoA or Veil on whether you need the bubble. With singed I can generally get those items and upgrade boots somewhere between 15-25. Full RoA somewhere between 25-35.

The decision to turn the catalyst into something AFTER Rylai's comes with making the decision early game (the first 5 minutes or so) that you'd rather have a banshees instead of an RoA. The "pros" can do this since they have a better game sense then you do.
RoA is ridiculously inefficient the longer the game goes on, so unless it's built first (maybe after boots lvl1) then there's no point wasting gold after the laning phase in getting it. Between 25-35 RoA is relatively pointless since the benefits are outclassed by what the enemy team is already building/has already built at that point.

Also, if you've SEEN them build RoA that late into a game, that's only more proof that the pro gamers really aren't the best players at this game.

[JDodge]

no, your build is just right on the AP. You should go boots and catalyst then build Rylai's than either a veil or RoA. the FoN and your other tanky items

Don't build RoA after Rylai's.

indeed, that'd just be fucking dumb

RoA needs to be your first big item or you need to not buy it at all tbh, it takes 10 minutes to stack and buying an item that doesn't become very gold-efficient until 10 minutes after you buy it isn't your friend mid/late-game

Dyrus and a couple of other pros disagree with you. Catalyst -> Boots -> Rylai's. Then build RoA or Veil on whether you need the bubble. With singed I can generally get those items and upgrade boots somewhere between 15-25. Full RoA somewhere between 25-35.

The decision to turn the catalyst into something AFTER Rylai's comes with making the decision early game (the first 5 minutes or so) that you'd rather have a banshees instead of an RoA. The "pros" can do this since they have a better game sense then you do.
RoA is ridiculously inefficient the longer the game goes on, so unless it's built first (maybe after boots lvl1) then there's no point wasting gold after the laning phase in getting it. Between 25-35 RoA is relatively pointless since the benefits are outclassed by what the enemy team is already building/has already built at that point.

you're an idiot

roa is the single most gold-effective non-snowball item in the game

"relatively pointless" is a fucking dumb phrase

Also, if you've SEEN them build RoA that late into a game, that's only more proof that the pro gamers really aren't the best players at this game.

yes, they are, this is why they are at the top of the ladders and are in competitive play

by all means, i'll start listening to you once you've won IEM or some shit, but right now you're making completely wrong statements in an absurdly condescending manner

[Shanba]

more proof that the pro gamers really aren't the best players at this game.

What?

[bv310]

more proof that the pro gamers really aren't the best players at this game.

What?

[Espeonage]

The difference is that the pro gamers know that they can depend on their team to make it to late game and they will be better off for it if they can get the item to do its time.

[Ankamius]

that's only more proof that the pro gamers really aren't the best players at this game.

This entire type of statement says absolutely nothing.

[JDodge]

patch notes are out

thoughts:

holy shit they nerfed the part of akali that was actually broken

i think the cait movespeed changes will help with a lot of her ridiculousness, tbh

corki buffs make him much, much better due to his ability to check brushes on the cheap (expect a lot more corki play, imo)

graves nerfs make him worse than vayne imo

kassadin nerfs were kinda unnecessary, he gets shat on by a lot of lanes he can't blow up

kog'maw will fade back into obscurity, he's now an incredibly squishy ranged dps with just alright range and no way of peeling shit off of him aside from the one slow (no reason to play him over trist now)

malph and yi buffs unnecessary imo

mf is still a worse graves

noct nerfs make me no longer want to play noct

more olaf buffs make me think that he's going to be one of the next victims of the buff-fotm-nerf cycle

orianna still outclassed by other ap mids

RUMBLE ULT FIX FUCKING FINALLY

sion nerfs are nice, but don't do anything for the "shoves down entire wave then ganks bot every creep wave with mobi boots" issue

sona nerf won't affect any competent sonas

teemo buff is nice

tristana new OP ad carry

vlad fix nice

wriggles nerf unnecessary

RIP priscilla's

cv nerfs don't change it from best summoner spell

cleanse new OP

exhaust nerfs are nice

flash nerf is nice, likely won't change much but nice

heal still useless

smite buffs are amazingness, jungling to become a lot stronger

[Ranmaru]

YAY TEEMO BUFF cuz I was playing Teemo and he's awesome

[MrZepher]

I'll just keep my opinions to myself and just go ahead and admit that I'm wrong.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I just won 3 in a row ranked as ap teemo