NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[Nero Cain]

TML wagon is bad.

and so is the Pine wagon.

My reasons for thinkin' TML is scum have nothing to with the cop "claim" or OMGUS.

[Psyche]

TML wagon is bad.

and so is the Pine wagon.

My reasons for thinkin' TML is scum have nothing to with the cop "claim" or OMGUS.

Oh. What are they, then, again?

[redFF]

because I wasn't being serious guys. cut me

some

slack here.

No. You claim an innocent cop result on a player and then backtrack over it, saying you're not serious? What kind of shenanigans is this?

UNVOTE: mastin2
VOTE: The Mini-Librarian

This looks like opportunistic scum. Too bad you replaced greyICE and are obvtown.

oh oh oh. Mini wagon go go go.

unvote;vote:TML

this looks like opportunistic scum.

[Nero Cain]

oh oh oh. Mini wagon go go go.

unvote;vote:TML

this looks like opportunistic scum.

you do know I was voting him before, right?

[Maxous]

I'll get caught up on this tomorrow.

Based on the votes, not much changed since i left anyway.

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: Pine

[The Mini-Librarian]

@SC:

Let's see. That post had an emoticon, the next words after that were "

seriously though

" and I finished out the post by giving reasons completely seperate from me being a "cop" why I thought LLD was town.

Yep, totally a serious claim.

[DeasVail]

I don't like mastin's *not posting*, but:

Unvote: Mastin2

Vote: Pine

[HezLucky]

Why don't you guys destroy Junpei instead?

[Psyche]

DV's is the scummiest hop so far. Not that he hopped, but how he did it.
It reminds me so much of my bandwagoning on D1 mislynches. A very sparse — the minimum for the ambitious scum, which makes me think gunny is town — justification for the wagon to show that it makes you uneasy and to avoid commitment...

Eh.

[DeasVail]

DV's is the scummiest hop so far. Not that he hopped, but how he did it.
It reminds me so much of my bandwagoning on D1 mislynches. A very sparse — the minimum for the ambitious scum, which makes me think gunny is town — justification for the wagon to show that it makes you uneasy and to avoid commitment...

Eh.

What is your read of Pine and how does his alignment affect your view of me?

Also, for what it's worth, if I was scum and Pine town, I would not have jumped onto his wagon, instead commenting that his replace out and in again followed by his lack of posting made me less sure and I would instead push on either a scumbuddy or a different townie. Probably a scumbuddy actually. If I was scum with Pine, I would work out a way of distancing that wasn't so obvious.

Conclusion: I must be town.

[Nero Cain]

Firstly there's a huge lack of scumhunting on his part.

Rack is his main scum read so I'll be ignoring all his posts calling Rack scum.

overselling your reads, esp on someone who hasn't posted content? I have a great distaste for people who go after them first.

And if there's actual good content going around, tell us your other reads.

OK. First off I'm not gonna tiptoe around my scum reads. I'm gonna say they're scum and that they deserve death. Secondly, I see no town motivation for what scooby did, while I see scum motivation. Thirdly, I want Rack dead today anyway.

As for other reads:

townish-
NN
CCV
Pine
KK

lightly calls Scooby scummy and delivers some townish reads.

Let's see. Mastin's reads are bad, but I'm leaning town here. But that's mainly just gut. Didn't LLD say she could read Mastin? What's you opinion?

Firestarter looks townish so far. He's being incredibly forthcoming with his reads and reasoning.

The game I just finished with Vijay is seriously clouding my judgement about his read... :/ Let's just say he isn't the strongest player in the world. Null for now.

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I'm lot liking psyche currently. The sequence where he votes Max goes like this.

- "max's posts are meh. I mean, extraordinarily meh. I like the idea of lynching this guy."
- "VOTE: Maxous to draw sufficient amount to the guy."
- "My max vote makes perfect sense. Look at his damned posts. They are nothing pretending to be something. And he's been ignored despite this. Why not pick him out?"

What bothers me the most here is how passionless these posts are. This is not posting of someone who actually wants their read lynched.

leaning town, townish and null for Mastin, Firestarter and Vijay.

I like his attack on psyche but then....

I think I might just have a fundamental disagreement of how to play mafia than Psyche. :/

He's null for now.

Calls both shottys town in 414.

OK, I'm back now.

Macros bothers me. His comments on the rack wagon and why he was thinking about voting rack really don't strike me as protown. Basically he just calls rack out for lurking and not contributing when given a chance.

These really aren't scum traits at all.

Maxous also bothers me for his sudden jump on the rack wagon, especially given his previous comments on that wagon.

expresses displeasure with Mac and Max but never really calls them scum.

the bolded also bothers me. He's voting a player that he belives is scum but believes something he's doing isn't scummy, LOL WUT?

I like rack's vote, but FFS the utter lack of content makes me desire his blood.


Read Pine's iso. Hmmmmm.... I'm starting to see what the issue is here. I need to look at my notes and see why I called him town to begin with. That might need to change.

Stradles Pine.

You want to lynch Rack for lacking content but you just got done saying that lack of content is not something scum do.

Well, a shotty wagon isn't something I'm averse to... Don't think I'll hop on this wagon though.

Now straddles Shotty (whom he called town)

So by my count he only really calls Rack scum (other than me) and I guess he gets some cred for calling Scoob scum during pre-game.

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His day 2 is equaly terrible.

I still think his vote on me is a big chainsaw on LLD. Honestly I don't get his vote. He votes me for voting LLD b/c he thinks I'm scum and I knew that the kills (atleast my supposed faction) weren't going to interfere with LLD but then he states that I didn't scum slip. lol wut?

And he

still

hasn't explained why the nk's made my LLD vote invalid.

His "LLD is town since unflipped Nero is attacking her" is just pathetic.

Other than that his flipping between Pine and shotty looks like scum trying to find something that sticks.
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Also I find it absolutly hilarious that no one wanted to lynch shotty yesterday for being useless, derpy and scummy but today there's a whole ton of people that want to lynch him.

[Psyche]

DV's is the scummiest hop so far. Not that he hopped, but how he did it.
It reminds me so much of my bandwagoning on D1 mislynches. A very sparse — the minimum for the ambitious scum, which makes me think gunny is town — justification for the wagon to show that it makes you uneasy and to avoid commitment...

Eh.

What is your read of Pine and how does his alignment affect your view of me?

Also, for what it's worth, if I was scum and Pine town, I would not have jumped onto his wagon, instead commenting that his replace out and in again followed by his lack of posting made me less sure and I would instead push on either a scumbuddy or a different townie. Probably a scumbuddy actually. If I was scum with Pine, I would work out a way of distancing that wasn't so obvious.

Conclusion: I must be town.

Ya'ok.
My read on Pine is quite...conjectural.

[Nero Cain]

needs explanation.

[Psyche]

unvote; vote TDL

Nero's case works for me. My different interpretation of the quality of TML's attack only helps.

[drmyshotgun]

Don't you mean TML?

[drmyshotgun]

In your vote, I mean.

[Psyche]

VOTE: TML. There.

[drmyshotgun]

Just saying, D and M are miles away on your keyboard. Lol.

[kdowns]

/prodded Finals As well

[Kublai Khan]

Day ends thursday? We need to agree on a wagon.

Or a crap-wagon on The Mini-Librarian could spring up out of nowhere. Because god knows that has a chance of succeeding given how inactive half this game is.
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Holy crap, I agree with everything in redFF's Post 1652.
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Also, scooby seems be to aggressively and purposefully useless.

[Pine]

I just requested replacement. My apologies to all, I'm just not capable of doing this game justice right now. Need to reduce my game load, and this was one of the ones that drew the short straw.

[Code_X]

Sigh

@Mod: Requesting Deadline Extension

We need a replacement not a Pine lynch. We also need to hear from a number of other replacements before the end of the day. Kdowns and Firestarter be good.

[Nero Cain]

Yeah with the surge on the Pine wagon he's not someone I'd want to lynch.

KK is right though, there's pretty much no chance in getting a TML lynch so

unvote;vote:jun

fakegod, you replaced in on april 18th, 18 days ago and you

STILL

haven't caught up. If you don't catch up by day 3 then we should strongly consider lynching you. That said I expect a full list of scum reads ASAP.

LLD, what is your read on fakegod?

Sigh

@Mod: Requesting Deadline Extension

We need a replacement not a Pine lynch. We also need to hear from a number of other replacements before the end of the day. Kdowns and Firestarter be good.

I disagree. If scum are lurking/being intentionally inactive they aren't going to stop unless they are threatened by being a lynch canidate. So I wouldn't mind offing lurkers to try and keep scum active and not lurking.

[The Mini-Librarian]

I see Nero's case on me. Will respond to it tomorrow game day (god willing) as it will just clog up the thread today.

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My read on Pine is quite...conjectural.

Can you clarify this please?