D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[MagnaofIllusion]

So you are a Town Watcher after we've already had a Town Tracker Enabler flip?

And you are a straightforward Watcher with no twists or turns to your role?

[Shmugen]

Correct, sir. No twist that I am aware of but for Hated.

[Nero Cain]

Only the name of the ability, Senator's Eye.

shouldn't the passive ability have a name too?

[Nero Cain]

Do you have any sort of flavor behind that?

Do you have flavor in your pm?

[hasdgfas]

Do you have any sort of flavor behind that?

Do you have flavor in your pm?

Nope. I was seeing whether he was going to make something up.

I second the question about passive ability.

[Shmugen]

The passive is called Hated.

As I am hated, I have to die eventually, mid game at the latest. I feel I'm too dangerous to the scum to be left alive, as every night is another chance at me finding one of them. I think it unlikely that they would be willing to gamble that I never find anyone just to save themselves one night kill. The only question is whether or not town believes me. We might be in a really rough spot losing the tracker enabler and the watcher by night 2.

[BBmolla]

Hated = Takes one less to lynch yes?

If we have a Tracker and Watcher then there is most likely a ninja.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:

I'm not really feeling this.

[Nero Cain]

@Magna: I didn't claim hated immediately for two reasons. One, I'd never been hated before and figured mentioning it when a wagon cropped up would be good enough and Two, I didn't want scum to get the wrong impression.

Hated VT

seems a silly thing in a large theme with no VTs.

This makes no sense. You thought that you would be making yourself a ‘target’ by claiming Hated since a Hated VT makes no sense? A Hated player with a Blastar (Greedo perchance) makes all the sense in the world. I despise the soft-claim here and factually scum really do not like Nightkilling Hated Townies. I would know … I survive to almost endgame as one in Olympus Mafia in a game with no VTs.

Furthermore if you believe this is Multiscum the normal “Hated players are Town” site meta no longer applies.

I view VT as the base level of power for a game. If you have a disadvantage, Hated, you would have an advantage as well to balance it. While I have seen hated as the sole ability in the mafia game you can buy at your local board game shop, I had not heard of its use here on site. I was apparently wrong.

Secondly, and I think I've mentioned this in every game I've ever been in, I do not subscribe to or have a working knowledge of site meta.

I can hardclaim if you'd like, as I am looking more and more like the lynch today, but I don't think you'll believe me.

VOTE:SHMUGEN

[splitfarvle]

I think I want to lynch the cow

I can get behind this, any other takers? I'm fairly locked into who I think is scum at this point, and Shmugan isn't on that list so I won't be voting for him.

[Nero Cain]

A guy that soft claimed hated vt then all the sudden has a watch isn't suspicious to you?

[Shmugen]

Who soft claimed hated VT? Especially in a game without VTs?

Tell me, Nero, which part of my plan do you find scummier? The part where I volunteer for death later in the game, say Day 3 or 4, or the part where I try not to waste a town lynch and force scum to get rid of the threat?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Tell me, Nero, which part of my plan do you find scummier? The part where I volunteer for death later in the game, say Day 3 or 4, or the part where I try not to waste a town lynch and force scum to get rid of the threat?

Shmugen let's be real here ... you 'volunteering' to be a lynch later in the game isn't helpful if you want to take the stance that you are mislynch.

If you are Town who will be 'wasting' a lynch at any point in the game where you are lynched. And frankly with two non-Town players down you should not be really all that worried about bargaining when you should die but more worried about lynching scum.

Especially with a Blastar mechanic that means you can get offed at any point.

UNVOTE:

I need to consider the implications of your claim and whether two Town Soft Information roles make sense given what we have.

I'm actually staying in the game per my discussion with Deathnote for the record.

MOD - Please disclose the specific information we discussed. Thanks!

[Shmugen]

This much is true, Magna. The primary argument is that scum know I'm not lying and won't risk leaving me alone.

Unvote, Vote: Iec

[Nero Cain]

Who soft claimed hated VT? Especially in a game without VTs?

Tell me, Nero, which part of my plan do you find scummier? The part where I volunteer for death later in the game, say Day 3 or 4, or the part where I try not to waste a town lynch and force scum to get rid of the threat?

You'll have to explain this to me then. "Hated VT seems a silly thing in a large theme with no VTs" Why you you be discussed hated vt's if you weren't one?

You're claiming town and volunteering for death. lol

[Shmugen]

To imply that I wasn't one, Nero.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Whelp I can't hang out any longer waiting for Deathnote.

More explanation after he posts.

VOTE: Iecerint

He's still scum and at this juncture I have to put my vote with one of the scum.

[Nero Cain]

ok.......

seems pretty strange way of putting it but ok.

[Iecerint]

Iec thinks it is likely that Shmugen is lying and trying to draw protective roles with his "Neutral Watch on Slandaar" claim.

Iec is trying to balance that with his feeling about lynching claimed investigative roles.

[DeathNote]

Vote Count

BBmolla

- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)

MagnaofIllusion

- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle, Slandaar, Iecerint (L-4)

Nexus

- Brizingre1 (L-8)

shmugen

- Nexus, NeroCain (L-7)

Iecerint

- Shmugen, MagnaofIllusion(L-7)

WrathChild

- 4nxi3ty (L-8)

With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch

~Just a quick announcement as there has been some talk, Shadow Dancer is on the Scummy Scummy Team where as Ooba is on the Scummy Team. I know my names were not very original but due to concern of info being passed by mistake, I figured I would make this open knowledge and call it a day. Sorry my death scene was so vague and sorry for not being on today. I have been working a lot recently.~

[WrathChild]

Because I wanted to Wrath. You have an issue with that?

As to my V/LA announcements - I make them universally across the board in all my games. You have a reason to suggest I not consistently do so that is alignment relevant? Also given that Sean actually did exactly as you suggested (where is MoI?) this weekend I think it is warranted.

Also Wrath - why not comment about the substance of my posting as opposed to secondary issues like this that are not scum-hunting related?

I have an issue that you felt it necessary to unnecessarily announce VLAs. The content is fine, but there is an issue with throwing your hands up in the air and yelling "EFF THIS!" and then coming back as if it never happened.

It has everything to do with accountability, Nero, which can aid in hunting scum.

@Magna: I didn't claim hated immediately for two reasons. One, I'd never been hated before and figured mentioning it when a wagon cropped up would be good enough and Two, I didn't want scum to get the wrong impression. Hated VT seems a silly thing in a large theme with no VTs.

So... hated VT claim here.

I may have to be replaced ... Pming Deathnote now.

I want this expanded on. Because from the turn of events and Mod response I am thinking that you knew there were two scum teams all along, but for some reason you wanted to flip back to implying that it was Scum Team and SK.

Additionally, why are you announcing unnecessar V/LA's? You are only off site for about 48 hours and activity prods set in after 72 hours. Are you afraid of being accused of lurking?

insinuating someone is scummy for "not following through on their vla" because "they are afraid of looking like a lurker"...? leap in logic to further cement a mislynch is what that comment says to me.

I will support a WC, Iece, or Shmugen lynch today. Something about shmugen's hated claim is making me pause about that lynch yet I still prefer it over a MoI lynch.

unvote, vote: wrath

So now MoI is a mislynch? And you know this because? Cool white-knighting dude.

Ok, Anxiety is scum and bad scum at that because we obviously have two scum teams. Nice slip.

UNVOTE, VOTE: Anxiety

What am I at, L-2 in my hated state? I'll claim later tonight.

By my count, Shmugen only got to L-6 or L-5 in his case. I didn't think I saw any votes on him between here and the VC below.

Vote Count

BBmolla

- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)

MagnaofIllusion

- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle, Slandaar, NeroCain, Iecerint (L-3)

Nexus

- Brizingre1 (L-8)

shmugen

- Nexus, MagnaofIllusion, BBmolla (L-6)

Iecerint

- 4nxi3ty (L-8)

With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch

~Sent Prods and keeping up the replacement hunt.~

I only had a ten minute break at work, and then wanted to see if anyone had any objections.

I am Senator Palpatine, Hated Watcher. I watched Slandaar N1, no one visited him that I could tell.

What's with the rushed contradictory claim?

[Shmugen]

There was no contradictory claim. Perhaps the phrasing of 'I didn't want scum to get the wrong impression. Hated VT seems a silly thing in a large theme with no VTs.' was poor. I was under the impression, as mentioned before, that Hated VT would be a silly role without some sort of counterbalance to bring it back to equal power of VT. Disadvantages come with advantages was my thinking. I didn't want scum to think I had a power and kill me N1, so I didn't claim Hated as I figured Hated would naturally come with some bonus. My guess that I got to L-2 was another instance of my 10 minute break at work getting in the way of me actually figuring out the count.

[Slandaar]

(Magnas scum because he knew there were 2 scum teams then was like lol no its only 1 to hide this fact)

[4nxi3ty]

unvote, vote: iece

only glanced at wraths post, am I right in thinkin it looks like an omgus vote?

isn't it deadline soon? If it is don't like how he votes someone without much support close to deadline.

[WrathChild]

unvote, vote: iece

only glanced at wraths post, am I right in thinkin it looks like an omgus vote?

isn't it deadline soon? If it is don't like how he votes someone without much support close to deadline.

You're only thinking its an OMGUS vote because you didn't read it. However, the point is valid that with so little time to the deadline I don't think I can get support to lynch you even though you slipped and said you knew MoI would be a mislynch (despite there being two scum teams).