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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:21 am

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Shmugen wrote:
Also, I have no love for Anxiety, but I dont think that kind of scumslip applies in multiball.

I very much disagree. If 4xn is scum and called Iece a mislynch its just means Iece wasn't in 4xn's group.

@Briz-I C WUT U DID THAR!!!! You tipptoed around my day 1 case on him just so you can call it "bad" and try and take all the credit for lynching your scumbuddy.

vote:scumCow
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:59 am

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hasdgfas wrote:BBmolla's first post on D3 makes me think he's scum. "Told you so" posts are not something that should come from town. Ever. I feel like jokeclaiming scum is more likely to come from scum, therefore he's a scumread. It's partially a policy lynch, but only because of the policy of wanting to lynch scum.

Cow how do I play as town
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:59 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cow
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 11:26 am

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Shmugen wrote:
Also, I have no love for Anxiety, but I dont think that kind of scumslip applies in multiball.

I very much disagree. If 4xn is scum and called Iece a mislynch its just means Iece wasn't in 4xn's group.

@Briz-I C WUT U DID THAR!!!! You tipptoed around my day 1 case on him just so you can call it "bad" and try and take all the credit for lynching your scumbuddy.

vote:scumCow


BBmolla wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cow


RRRAAAARRRRRRRR
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hasdgfas wrote:BBmolla's first post on D3 makes me think he's scum. "Told you so" posts are not something that should come from town. Ever. I feel like jokeclaiming scum is more likely to come from scum, therefore he's a scumread. It's partially a policy lynch, but only because of the policy of wanting to lynch scum.

Cow how do I play as town


Badly? I don't know, I don't meta much, and I don't remember playing with you as town.
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 11:28 am

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Okay then why do you think I play badly? I mean I do, but if this is your only experience with me, I don't understand what your reasoning is for saying that.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 11:30 am

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shouldn't you have growled twice?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 12:28 pm

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I have played a game with BBmolla and he was scum and played way different then he is now. He actually seems to be trying in this round.
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 1:10 pm

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BBmolla wrote:Okay then why do you think I play badly? I mean I do, but if this is your only experience with me, I don't understand what your reasoning is for saying that.


"Badly" was a joke, because I really don't know what you were looking for there.

Nero Cain wrote:shouldn't you have growled twice?

Why would I do that?
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 2:08 pm

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there were two votes....
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 2:27 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:there were two votes....


And there were 3 once before in this game and I only growled once.
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 2:49 pm

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This argument is shallow and pedantic. Lucky, if you're not willing to read the game, you're certainly not allowed to talk like that. BB did nothing all of Day 2.
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 3:14 pm

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Shmugen wrote:This argument is shallow and pedantic. Lucky, if you're not willing to read the game, you're certainly not allowed to talk like that. BB did nothing all of Day 2.

I still read towards the end of the last day (About 10-15 pages). I am also reading what is being quoted and posted in this day and I can say once more he is clearly playing different. The thing I decided to skip was all the middle stuff in the first day.

Now I am not saying he has to be town, I am just noting that point down. I am still getting used to this player base and I am hoping to get a couple things from this day. Because I havnt read the full game I am a little behind on some of the points being made, but when I have the free time and willingness to read over everything, I will do so.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 3:21 pm

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I'm not in a great position to be throwing stones this game, Lucky, but the first I've heard of you in this game is you joining and telling us that BB is town from personal meta after claiming to have not read the game. This does not inspire me with confidence as to your towniness.
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:24 pm

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So much scum on scum violence today
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 12:04 am

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Slandaar wrote:So much scum on scum violence today


Assuming you're right, that's good as it's multiball. I do wish you'd be more useful, Slandaar. I would not be surprised whatsoever to watch scum bring confirmed town all the way to endgame for how insightful you are.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 1:14 am

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I am insightful!

(BB is scum)
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 2:00 am

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Shmugen wrote:I'm not in a great position to be throwing stones this game, Lucky, but the first I've heard of you in this game is you joining and telling us that BB is town from personal meta after claiming to have not read the game. This does not inspire me with confidence as to your towniness.

When did I say he was town? Im just said he is playing different from his scum game that I played with him. There could be multiple reasons as to why he is playing different.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 3:56 am

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Then wtf is your point lucky? Who cares then if he is playing differently.
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:08 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:
Shmugen wrote:
Also, I have no love for Anxiety, but I dont think that kind of scumslip applies in multiball.

I very much disagree. If 4xn is scum and called Iece a mislynch its just means Iece wasn't in 4xn's group.

@Briz-I C WUT U DID THAR!!!! You tipptoed around my day 1 case on him just so you can call it "bad" and try and take all the credit for lynching your scumbuddy.

vote:scumCow


BBmolla wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cow


RRRAAAARRRRRRRR
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hasdgfas wrote:BBmolla's first post on D3 makes me think he's scum. "Told you so" posts are not something that should come from town. Ever. I feel like jokeclaiming scum is more likely to come from scum, therefore he's a scumread. It's partially a policy lynch, but only because of the policy of wanting to lynch scum.

Cow how do I play as town


Badly? I don't know, I don't meta much, and I don't remember playing with you as town.[/b]


Well my comment was mostly meant for this conversation. I know the question wasnt directed at me but it was something I could still respond to. I havnt played a game with him as town, but I have played with him while he was scum and I made my comment based on that. I wanted to add something to this day. It was a major point, but I see this escalated beyond what I imagined it would.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:16 am

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WrathChild wrote:Can we lynch Anxiety please?

VOTE: Anxiety

explain how i slipped... not just "general set of words is a slip"

shmugen, why didn't you watch tammy, surely you would've been able to potentially confirm several townies andor people with blasters?

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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:22 am

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Firstly and most important, I highly doubt blasters work in that way. Each shot counting as a visit would be hideously inbalanced. Secondly, I would have possibly confirmed Magna's claim about directing blasterfire, assuming Magna targeted Tammy
Thirdly, I kind of liked Tammy's posting after she swept the troll cobwebs out of her slot.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:29 am

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Shmugen wrote:Firstly and most important, I highly doubt blasters work in that way. Each shot counting as a visit would be hideously inbalanced.
i am not going to pretend to know how the setup is balanced, but if i saw a lot of people saying they would blaster someone i would watch that person to see who was telling the truth.
Secondly, I would have possibly confirmed Magna's claim about directing blasterfire, assuming Magna targeted Tammy
isn't this a good reason to watch someone?
Thirdly, I kind of liked Tammy's posting after she swept the troll cobwebs out of her slot.
how does liking someone's post have anything to do with wether or not they would be a good watch target?
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:45 am

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Seanald wrote:Then wtf is your point lucky? Who cares then if he is playing differently.


In a recent post, I asked you some questions. Please answer them. Now.
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 5:22 am

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4nxi3ty wrote:
Shmugen wrote:Firstly and most important, I highly doubt blasters work in that way. Each shot counting as a visit would be hideously inbalanced.
i am not going to pretend to know how the setup is balanced, but if i saw a lot of people saying they would blaster someone i would watch that person to see who was telling the truth.
Secondly, I would have possibly confirmed Magna's claim about directing blasterfire, assuming Magna targeted Tammy
isn't this a good reason to watch someone?
Thirdly, I kind of liked Tammy's posting after she swept the troll cobwebs out of her slot.
how does liking someone's post have anything to do with wether or not they would be a good watch target?

1. Consider what you're saying. If every blaster shot worked as a seperate visit, a scum watcher could figure out the town power roles in one night.
2. Assuming Magna's blaster redirect would have shown up as a watch, we already figured he had that power and that power is not indicitive of alignment.
3. I didn't like the slot because of its previous owner. I liked Tammy's posts, I figured the rest of the town might too.
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 7:13 am

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OK TOWN LET ME GUIDE YOU ALL
DeathNote wrote:
Vote CountWrathChild-
Ooba
, NeroCain, 4nxi3ty,
MagnaofIllusion
(L-7)
PeregrineV
- WrathChild, BBmolla, hasdgfas, brinzingre1 (L-7)
BBmolla- Kdub (L-10)
ooba
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splitfarvle
(L-10)
Slandaar
- shmugen,
Shadow Dancer
, Sword_of_omens, Nexus, Andrius (L-6)
Nexus-
Slandaar
(L-10)
MagnaofIllusion
-
syndromeofadown
(L-10)
hasdgfas-
PeregrineV
(L-10)

OK This VC is literally just before I claim.

So, we have 4 confirmed town off the main wagons.
2 People are not voting here, Iece and Drs slot (I think)

Therefore 6 confirmed town were not on the main wagons here. Only person not conf town who wasnt on a main wagon is kdub.
These wagons are full of scumbags

DeathNote wrote:
PeregrineV
- WrathChild, BBmolla, hasdgfas, brinzingre1,
splitfarvle
,
Shadow Dancer
, Kdub,
MagnaofIllusion
, Shmugen,
Iecerint
, NeroCain

Final VC for Day 1.

So we can see, that in the last minute shenanigans, the 3 [BBmolla, Hascow and Briz] all stuck to their wagon of choice.

PeregrineV wrote:
Riding me for as long as they've had the ability to vote
- WrathChild, BBmolla, hasdgfas, brinzingre1, splitfarvle, Shadow Dancer
Best to compare their overall contribution as a ratio of time spent on me. Not just vote, but total discussion time. Out of 20 players, I should be 7% of the discussion, approximately. Even if each player narrows focus to only 5 others, I should be ~20% of the discussion. If I am 50% or more of their post totals, chances are they are scum who are tunneling so they don't have to actually scumhunt.

PV's analysis is pretty much what I have shown. Take out split, you have WC/BB/Hascow/Briz/SD(scum)

Remove WC, he actually started the wagon

BBmolla
Hascow
Briz

Lets look at Day 2;

16 players still in game;
DeathNote wrote:
Vote CountWrathChild-
splitfarvle
, NeroCain (L-7)
BBmolla- Kdub, hasdgfas,
drmyshotgun
(L-6)
MagnaofIllusion
- WrathChild (L-8)
Nexus-
Iecerint
, 4nxi3ty, shmugen, BBmolla, Brizingre1 (L-4)
drmyshotgun
-
Slandaar
(L-8)
Iecerint
- swordofomens,
MagnaofIllusion
(L-7)


DeathNote wrote:
Vote CountWrathChild- NeroCain (L-8)
BBmolla- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)
MagnaofIllusion
- WrathChild,
drmyshotgun
,
splitfarvle
,
Slandaar
, shmugen (L-4)
Nexus-
Iecerint
, BBmolla, Brizingre1 (L-6)
swordofomens- 4nxi3ty (L-8)
splitfarvle
-
MagnaofIllusion
(L-8)

Say what you want, but in the period between these 2 VC's who moved their vote?
Dr/Split/Sland/Magna/Anx/Shmugen/Sword

Who Didnt?
NC/Kdub/Hascow/BB/Briz/WC/Iece

With 2 not voting... Andrius and Nexus

DeathNote wrote:
Vote CountBBmolla- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)
MagnaofIllusion- WrathChild,
drmyshotgun
,
splitfarvle
,
Slandaar
, shmugen, NeroCain (L-3)
Nexus-
Iecerint
, Brizingre1 (L-7)
shmugen- Nexus,
MagnaofIllusion
, 4nxi3ty, BBmolla (L-5)


WC still on Magna
Kdub still on BB
Briz still on Nexus
Cow still on BB
Andrius MIA

Hascow/BB/Briz/Andrius(sean)/Kdub/WC

Worst offenders by a mile;

Briz/Hascow/Sean

Lynch these 3

I dont understand. How does this make them scum?

You may think this is some weird way to scumhunt, but think about the lines the scum have taken, they are not looking for lynches early on, they have dragged days out, Magna lynch COULD have happened if scum wanted it, on day 1 wagons never got close to L-1 before deadline, why? scum votes were spread on the main wagons and not moving. Case in point Ooba on WC, SD on me. We know scum are sitting on their votes, so we lynch the people sitting on their votes.

Briz
Hascow
Sean

Pick one. Vote them.
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