Judge, Jury, and Executioner - Over

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Quilford (5): Mastermind of Sin, Mastermind of Sin, Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, Knight of Cydonia

Axelrod (3): AurorusVox, vijay2vasandani, vijay2vasandani
StrangerCoug (2): Quilford, Quilford
Sir Bastion (2): Quilford, D3f3nd3r
Mastermind of Sin (2): Gooner, Gooner
D3f3nd3r (2): AurorusVox, vijay2vasandani
Nocmen (1): D3f3nd3r
DoomYoshi (1): Gooner
Gooner (1): AurorusVox

29

votes are currently not on a player.

Every player has

3

votes.
With

16

alive, it's

9

to hammer.
There are

48

votes in play,

0

of which are frozen, leaving

48

votes active.

Deadline is September 21st, 11 a.m. CEST.

[AurorusVox]

To clarify, Quil's QT statement was opposite or both SCUM.
Agree that Quilava could do with hemp.
Too many scummy players, not enough scumflips.

[Gooner]

As for the thing yesterday, it was a reaction test. Trying to see who would try turning something totally unscummy (not fully reading the thread) into something scummy and to see who leapt on the bandwagon.

Can you please explain this better.

Ok. I thought that I would throw a little quote down that would suggest that I hadn't read the thread, which is in itself a scum neutral action that some people perceive as scummy and is a reason scum often use for framing someone. This is the reaction which I was hoping to draw out.

So I threw it down to see who would bite. DoomYoshi posted a very scummy vote so I'm voting for him.

[AurorusVox]

"Regfan
quadz08
Amrun"

Look at that replacement list.
I am forever wroth.

[Axelrod]

Well, I totally missed the jury discussion. Extreme business. In my defense, I would have been there in time, but N was already hammered when I got there and the Mod. had closed discussion. I can not honestly say I would have argued against the lynch though. There wasn't anything strongly in his favor and a lot of little nagging things to convict him on.

The most interesting thing that happened in there was Quilford apparently mistakenly believing that it was the scum who decided who was on the jury. And because he assumed the scum put him there to acquit, he was going to vote Guilty. When his "mistake" was explained to him, he unvoted. Then said he'd probably still vote Guilty just to get the flip for information. I'm not sure I believe that. I read a bit and it's not like Quilford was super defending N yesterday. It came across more like he was simply not paying attention and didn't understand what the case was.

Before I say anything else, does anyone wish to claim being made Executioner last night?

[Ser Panda]

TSH
N
Yoshi
Koc
MOS

^
scum team wich makes the horrible SC slot town. *sigh*

Town: When I flip town lynch TSH and MOS ASAP

Av Mos.

Why shouldn't we listen to nero-cain here?

Help me here.

I'm looking at it this way.

I'm confident about my strangercoug scum read.

But its getting really tiring for me to keep asking you guys to lynch him.

going after quilford and axelrod isn't really helping my faith in you.

Vote Strangercoug.

If I don't see your votes on this guy, I'm going to look elsewhere to form a town voting bloc

[Nocmen]

Quilford's unvote is the main thing worth noting from Jury Duty.

But really defender? Yes I hammered. Yet everyone in there had expressed serious interest in lynching N. Is that hammer a bad thing?

Vote: Defender x2

[Ser Panda]

This message is for every townie in this game.

I don't want double votes.

I want ten votes on strangercoug from 10 different people.


Use one vote to lynch this scum.

we can then form a town voting bloc and then start getting rid of every scum in this game.

its time to stop bickering.

[AurorusVox]

AxelVote says.
DefenderVote stays.

I can lease you my Gooner vote.

Unvote Gooner; Vote StrangerCoug

In return you vote Defender, and we disagree on Axel.

[Ser Panda]

Quilford's unvote is the main thing worth noting from Jury Duty.

But really defender? Yes I hammered. Yet everyone in there had expressed serious interest in lynching N. Is that hammer a bad thing?

Vote: Defender x2

you don't have to double vote this guy.

give me one vote on strangercoug.

[Ser Panda]

AxelVote says.
DefenderVote stays.

I can lease you my Gooner vote.

Unvote Gooner; Vote StrangerCoug

In return you vote Defender, and we disagree on Axel.

vote defender

[AurorusVox]

Unvote Axel

Vote Gooner

Realised Axel is revving up to claim with results.
Unvote is contingent on the above. Delay at all and it goes back.

[Ser Panda]

AxelVote says.
DefenderVote stays.

I can lease you my Gooner vote.

Unvote Gooner; Vote StrangerCoug

In return you vote Defender, and we disagree on Axel.

If axel isn't on the strangercoug wagon today. I'll help you string him up tomorrow.

[AurorusVox]

If axel isn't on the strangercoug wagon today. I'll help you string him up tomorrow.

Deal.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Quilford (5): Mastermind of Sin, Mastermind of Sin, Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, Knight of Cydonia
D3f3nd3r (5): AurorusVox, vijay2vasandani, Nocmen, Nocmen, Ser Panda

StrangerCoug (4): Quilford, Quilford, Ser Panda, AurorusVox
Axelrod (2): vijay2vasandani, vijay2vasandani
Sir Bastion (2): Quilford, D3f3nd3r
Mastermind of Sin (2): Gooner, Gooner
Nocmen (1): D3f3nd3r
DoomYoshi (1): Gooner
Gooner (1): AurorusVox

25

votes are currently not on a player.

Every player has

3

votes.
With

16

alive, it's

9

to hammer.
There are

48

votes in play,

0

of which are frozen, leaving

48

votes active.

Deadline is September 21st, 11 a.m. CEST.

[AurorusVox]

Quilford's unvote is the main thing worth noting from Jury Duty.

But really defender? Yes I hammered. Yet everyone in there had expressed serious interest in lynching N. Is that hammer a bad thing?

Vote: Defender x2

you don't have to double vote this guy.

give me one vote on strangercoug.

You realise this only works if YOU double vote Defender, if you're voting him for me and for Nocmen.

[AurorusVox]

Av Mos.

Why shouldn't we listen to nero-cain here?

For the same reason that I said this earlier:

At first I was all like FUCK YEAH CLEARED TOWN JUDGE CLAIM, but then actually it means Judge's decision on who is sent to him is too wine soaked. Axelrod's post sums it up nicely -

yes, we have clear town, but that doesn't change the fact that Judge will in all likelihood be just another schmuck with reads.

Just because Nero was town doesn't mean he was right.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Can I just state for the record that I am really, really uncomfortable with lining up lynches and bargaining for votes like this? I can understand it at deadline, but doing it now... not so much.

[AurorusVox]

Uncomfortable because you think scum are masterminding a string of mislynches? (if so, who is the scum in the equation, which are the mislynches?)
Or uncomfortable because it's uncommon play? (if so, how do you think the uncommon mechanics we have in this game affect that?)

[Knight of Cydonia]

Uncomfortable because you think scum are masterminding a string of mislynches? (if so, who is the scum in the equation, which are the mislynches?)
Or uncomfortable because it's uncommon play? (if so, how do you think the uncommon mechanics we have in this game affect that?)

The only time I've seen it done is by scum who have control of a weak/inactive town who just go along with things. The problem lies in the fact that I have pretty decent town reads on both you and SerPanda (though my SerPanda read is mostly based on my prior experience of playing with one of it's heads, with the rest of his play being pretty null), and the fact that everyone has been relatively active and posting a lot thus far. It's not enough to make me question my reads on either of you (yet) but I'm still leery of it as a play in general, even with the multiple votes + the oddities of the lynch mechanic in this game.

[Ser Panda]

Quilford's unvote is the main thing worth noting from Jury Duty.

But really defender? Yes I hammered. Yet everyone in there had expressed serious interest in lynching N. Is that hammer a bad thing?

Vote: Defender x2

you don't have to double vote this guy.

give me one vote on strangercoug.

You realise this only works if YOU double vote Defender, if you're voting him for me and for Nocmen.

Can I just state for the record that I am really, really uncomfortable with lining up lynches and bargaining for votes like this? I can understand it at deadline, but doing it now... not so much.

the reason I said don't double vote the guy is because I think single votes on two scum are more effective than double votes on one scum.

And I'm not bargaining to lynch a guy I think is town.
I'm pretty sure defender is scum.

A voting bloc needs to happen and this is the way to do it and I don't want double votes on any of them. I'm confident I can get 10 single votes.

[guille2015]

This is understandable.

Vote: StrangerCoug

Still not convinced on defender.

[DoomYoshi]

VOTE: MOS
MOS

As for the thing yesterday, it was a reaction test. Trying to see who would try turning something totally unscummy (not fully reading the thread) into something scummy and to see who leapt on the bandwagon.

DoomYoshi leapt onto the bandwagon in a way which worries me.

VOTE: DoomYoshi

You are a liar so LAL.

I wasn't on either of the vanilla town bandwagons yesterday and I vehemently opposed N's lynch. Your vote is an OMGUS on me from my votes yesterday, which I am replacing. Don't bother replying... I am not going to read anything more from lying scum.

VOTE: gooner x2

VOTE: strangercoug I agree to this bandwagon, and will gladly join in the lynch party, even if it is a bit unorthodox.

Wishy-washy on the defender case; would choose WC before defender and if WC flips scum, hit defender.

[guille2015]

As for the thing yesterday, it was a reaction test. Trying to see who would try turning something totally unscummy (not fully reading the thread) into something scummy and to see who leapt on the bandwagon.

Can you please explain this better.

Ok. I thought that I would throw a little quote down that would suggest that I hadn't read the thread, which is in itself a scum neutral action that some people perceive as scummy and is a reason scum often use for framing someone. This is the reaction which I was hoping to draw out.

So I threw it down to see who would bite. DoomYoshi posted a very scummy vote so I'm voting for him.

That I understood, And I am interested in your results, but you are not backing your results with quotes. Are you referring to posts 1307 and 1339. 1339 seems like an odd vote from Doom Yoshi, but I am reading in ISO, and not in context.

BTW, why are you voting MOS?

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

StrangerCoug (6): Quilford, Quilford, Ser Panda, AurorusVox, guille2015, DoomYoshi

Quilford (5): Mastermind of Sin, Mastermind of Sin, Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, Knight of Cydonia
D3f3nd3r (5): AurorusVox, vijay2vasandani, Nocmen, Nocmen, Ser Panda
Gooner (3): AurorusVox, DoomYoshi, DoomYoshi
Axelrod (2): vijay2vasandani, vijay2vasandani
Sir Bastion (2): Quilford, D3f3nd3r
Mastermind of Sin (2): Gooner, Gooner
Nocmen (1): D3f3nd3r
DoomYoshi (1): Gooner

21

votes are currently not on a player.

Every player has

3

votes.
With

16

alive, it's

9

to hammer.
There are

48

votes in play,

0

of which are frozen, leaving

48

votes active.

Deadline is September 21st, 11 a.m. CEST.