↑DrippingGoofball wrote:Trollie, I have reasons to believe that you have more powers that stealing a vote.
like what, taking four days to realize he has an ability he can use and then use it on a town read? :p
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↑Iecerint wrote:Main case on Trollie I see is that he's not dead despite his D1 softclaim. You could explain it away with the other claims up to a point, but it's starting to get a little zany, especially once you're reminded that his softclaim came out during a back-and-forth with SPB (i.e., so it's unlikely scum would miss/forget it).
The back-and-forth itself didn't look faked to me, though, so I don't think SPB and Trollie are scum together. I like your case on Zoidberg better. Trollie could be the SK possibly, but I'd rather deal with someone who's more likely to be mafia unless the SK is way disproportionately probable.
This theory is a little shaky in a scum+SK game, particularly one which is PR-heavy. Plus, Trollie has been under suspicion, so the odds of him appearing an attractive target for scum are significantly reduced.
↑Zoidberg wrote:See, here's why your argument is bogus:
THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO DECIDE IF MY CLAIM IS LEGIT OR NOT IS ALREADY OUT THERE. I WAS ALREADY ROLE CONFIRMED BY 2 PEOPLE.
Continuing to harp on about "withholding information" is a convenient way to pretend to scumhunt.
That's just as stupid as saying "I claim roleblocker, you got roleblocked N1 and he got roleblocked N3, therefore I dont need to tell you who I targetted N2, 4 and 5.
Information is being withheld, even if you're "confirmed"
I'm not trying to scumhunt here?
I really do not see Zoidberg as scummy for this.
He wasn't "withholding information" in any meaningful sense. Yes, it isn't ideal play, but if he's claimed a useless role anyway, there's little incentive for scum-Zoid to stonewall about who he targets. It's not pro-town play (because ideally he should be giving rationales), but there's minimal scum incentive for it. It's minorly scummy at best, but I'm not convinced of that.
It's completely different to a roleblocker - where who you target necessarily reveals info (I'm not ignoring the prospect that the role actually may do something else, but in this game I am not at all surprised for there to be a purely silly role)
↑Iecerint wrote:Is that really all that ever came of the D1 Zoidberg wagon? I guess it's just that I wanted to lynch him during the first half of my readthrough.
Here's the Ythan stuff. The gist is that he does devote a lot of posts to Zoidberg, but a lot of it is pretty coach-y AFAICT, so I dunno if volume is where Magua was coming from, but.
Spoiler:
Here's Thunderhog's. The gist is that he voted Zoidberg for unclear reasons and then revoted him when I asked him who he thought was scum.
Wait a minute... In reference to the bolded part, did you mean "NM", or did you actually mean NS? If you meant NS, can you point out where, cuz I'm not seeing it...
I mean, NS said he was town and that his blatant sarcasm was 'role-related'. No where did he mention third party...
and...
If you actually meant NM, then why can't NM just be a town with only hammers?
↑SlumberPartyBois wrote:I've already started falling behind in this and finals are mon-thurs so I'm anticipating it's only gonna get worse, so
V/LA til Friday
Aren't you a hydra though? You're telling me that both / all of you are V/LA until Friday? I find that rather difficult to believe...
Other than that, have some one-liner and random reads:
OD = Town lean - I really don't see why there are so many votes there.
NM = Town slightly-further-than-leaning - Despite low post count, actually seems to be scumhunting. Seems to be one of the only ones too...
Kawaii = An arrogant jerkoff. I'm gonna put you in the same column as P-dra.
Since Iec seems to demand I place a vote, I'm going to put it right back where it was before.
Vote: Zoid
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In ISO, Ythan looks bad, but looking at Ythan as a whole, his interactions with Zoid don't seem that out of character. TH is more interesting in that they only players he calls "scummy" are Zoid and Wyrd, which could be a case of the newbscum "use hyperbole against teammates" tell, but it's
I'm with limited access for today (and yesterday). Tomorrow I will be traveling. I will try to get something up here before monday but can't promise anything until then.
I have been using the power, ive just been careful with my vote since i didnt want people to accidentally hammer someone not realizing i coujnted for 2
↑TheTrollie wrote:I'm with limited access for today (and yesterday). Tomorrow I will be traveling. I will try to get something up here before monday but can't promise anything until then.
I have been using the power, ive just been careful with my vote since i didnt want people to accidentally hammer someone not realizing i coujnted for 2
You could have explicitly announced it and been careful with your vote.
I see you're really busy, maybe we'll let you live and lynch a townie instead - hahahahahahaha
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
↑TheTrollie wrote:I have been using the power, ive just been careful with my vote since i didnt want people to accidentally hammer someone not realizing i coujnted for 2
↑TheTrollie wrote:oh, fuck. did not see all this vote speculation before my last post.
I caused volkan to lose his vote.
HURRY
FULL CLAIM
FLAVOR
ALL ACTIONS
EVERY DAY EVERY NIGHT
N1: nothing
N2: nothing
First two nights I had no strong scum reads and I was kinda unsure of how the vote steal should be used besides to prevent scum from pushing a wagon. Then I realized the best thing to do if i dont have scum reads is take votes from lurkers/ppl who werent using their vote so that their lack of activity doesn't remove a vote from the pool of possible votes.
↑DrippingGoofball wrote:Trollie, I have reasons to believe that you have more powers that stealing a vote.
like what, taking four days to realize he has an ability he can use and then use it on a town read? :p
Vollkan only became a town read to me because of his reaction to the vote steal. that is pretty clear to anyone who read my ISO/followed my vollkan read.
Also this is why i haven been very cautious about voting anyone thus far in game. I didn't want to put someone in a position where L-1 lynches them without anyone knowing that was the case.
p-edit: the three posts above this i have not read but dont have time to read right now. will try to get back on later today
