Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

[CareyHammer]

I was sheeping the whole Angel wagon, not just ff. Seriously, I'm willing to vote for anyone at any time. Give me a reason to suspect another player and I will probably move my vote there. Still a week to deadline, no need to get too upset about a stupid vote on my part. I make stupid votes all the time.

[fferyllt]

And to look at this game in a strategic way..
There will be 2 scums in a 9 player game.

And I am positive that there is one scum between SE’s & IC
I feel GM is town, Carey is null. Revenus would be my choice for this day’s lynch, if everyone wants to move this directly.
And there would one more scum in the rest of you.

I changed my mind about Angel.
I used to trust her, but this is like the only post with content from her other than that nonsense about only one scum could be in SE/IC.

I trust ff much more now, so I am going to sheep onto that Angel wagon.

Here comes L-1!

VOTE: Angel

Let's hear a claim, please, before we pull the trigger on a lynch.

Typically, I just kind of sheep someone who I trust and jump on some bandwagon at L-3.

I already told you guys this is my playstyle. Scum or town. It's what I do.

[ArcAngel9]

I was sheeping the whole Angel wagon, not just ff. Seriously, I'm willing to vote for anyone at any time. Give me a reason to suspect another player and I will probably move my vote there. Still a week to deadline, no need to get too upset about a stupid vote on my part. I make stupid votes all the time.

How do you even a play game like this? You literally throwing yourself down the road and letting you people drive you in any direction they seek.
don't you see how you're opening doors for Scum to use you dnd let you lynch a townie.
huh!!!!

[CareyHammer]

I guess so. I really am terrible at mafia, trying to learn to play correctly.

[CareyHammer]

Hello everyone!

I may be SE, but I suck at mafia, so don't expect too much from me.

[fferyllt]

ArcAngel what are your current reads?

[ArcAngel9]

ArcAngel9 - TOWN
fferyllt - Leaning Town
Mac Birdland - Leaning Town
goodmorning (IC - Null
Z7-852 Fropome - Null
Eye Urn - Unsure
CareyHammer (SE) - Scum/NUll
Deras - Leaning Scum
Revenus (SE) - Leaning Scum

[fferyllt]

Talk some more about your leaning scum reads, please.

[ArcAngel9]

^ will put that out later.. Am at work now!!!

[ArcAngel9]

and multi tasking

[CareyHammer]

I guess I have been kind of a troll. Sorry, guys. See you next time.

Unvote
Replace out

[goodmorning]

What in the fuck is this game and why so many replacements

[Eye Urn]

Not really feeling a town vibe for a withdrawn vote solely because of L-1. It was pretty clearly stated that it was L-1, and I don't think anyone that wasn't already voting was going to rashly hammer (now if Carey hadn't been voting, that would be another story; I'm pretty sure his meta includes throwing out random hammers) unless they were scum. By backing down off L-1, we're a bit less likely to really get a claim, especially since the votee is not paying much attention to this game. It feels more of a thing someone does to pretend to help town prevent accidental lynchings, and again, I don't see any evidence that such a thing would have happened.

AA9's excuse of not having enough time rings very hollow given she REPLACED into the game. She didn't wait around for a week or more for the game to fill, it was already ready for her when she opted to replace in. She should have known exactly what she was getting into. Even with multiple replacements incoming, I'm still feeling good about this vote.

Thank you for replacing out Carey. Do everyone a favor and actually try like I know you can if you ever play again.

GM, from what I've seen most newbie games replace at least half the slots. Sometimes a slot even gets replaced more than once.

[Z7-852]

Replaced Fropome. Gonna read the thread tomorrow with better time.

[goodmorning]

GM, from what I've seen most newbie games replace at least half the slots. Sometimes a slot even gets replaced more than once.

I think of the games I've had it breaks down like this:
Well, my first Newbie had 3 replacements, one for a not-picked-up PM.
Second had 6, 3 of which were on one (my) slot(!).
Third had 5, but 4 of those were early D1/limited activity and quickly forgotten.
My most recent had only one, very early in the game (which was me).

Replaced Fropome. Gonna read the thread tomorrow with better time.

Hi. I hope to see more from you than we did from Fro.

[fferyllt]

Not really feeling a town vibe for a withdrawn vote solely because of L-1. It was pretty clearly stated that it was L-1, and I don't think anyone that wasn't already voting was going to rashly hammer (now if Carey hadn't been voting, that would be another story; I'm pretty sure his meta includes throwing out random hammers) unless they were scum. By backing down off L-1, we're a bit less likely to really get a claim, especially since the votee is not paying much attention to this game. It feels more of a thing someone does to pretend to help town prevent accidental lynchings, and again, I don't see any evidence that such a thing would have happened.

I did your meta research for you.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4811681

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4811694

ArcAngel put some substantive posts down today. She's promised more tomorrow. And her posts are helping me refine my read a little. I'll say more after she posts her thoughts on her scum reads that I asked for. If she doesn't post them within 24 hours, I'll revote.

[ArcAngel9]

^ this is a very negative tone from townie attitude.
Why do you care so much my scum reads? What is that you want to fish in my reads?

[fferyllt]

^ this is a very negative tone from townie attitude.
Why do you care so much my scum reads? What is that you want to fish in my reads?

I want to know why you voted Carey and then said afterwards in your list that Eye and Deras are more scummy than him. Null/scum vs leaning scum.

[fferyllt]

aaaand she's gone.

[Revenus]

Arc; I want to know why you're voting your "scum/null" read over either of your more scum leaning reads.

[Z7-852]

Damn It's hard read the posts when there are so many replacements. I skimmed through the thread and my first expression is the fallowing.


fferyllt - Leaning Town

Mac Birdland - Leaning Town
goodmorning (IC - Null
Z7-852 Fropome - Null
Eye Urn - Unsure
CareyHammer (SE) - Scum/NUll
Deras - Leaning Scum
ArcAngel9 - Leaning scum
Revenus (SE) - Leaning Scum

[ArcAngel9]

Arc; I want to know why you're voting your "scum/null" read over either of your more scum leaning reads.

becuz he is hurting the game so much. that he could do as scum or being null.
it doesn't matter who goes down from that list, i ll have to follow the largest wagon to get the lynch.

so don't worry, you're still in my head, i ll put my vote on you when rest of the town decides to lynch you.

[Z7-852]

Damn I misclicked when trying to edit post above. Ignore it because the reads where copy pasted from above and they are not my own.

My real thoughts are as following.

fferyllt - Leaning Town
At early game (and after it) had kept the game going without being too aggressive toward anyone. Getting information is good and we have had some.

Eye urn - Leaning Town
Have also been digging information witch is nice. Not really much to say against or for. For now I have a gut feeling about him leaning town.

Goodmorning - Leaning town
Seems to play in the same team as fferyllt. Might be piggybagging but I would say there are at least two townies.

Deras - Leaning town
Mac - Leaning town
Two new players that haven't given much but still they seem both townies.

Revenus - Null
Sometimes giving good insight but sometimes seems to be little off. But still keeping the wheels rolling and not being aggressive about it. He is not pushing the lynch nor denying it's usefulness. Little hard to tell but lets him be null for now.

CareyHammer - Leaning Scum
Too much lurking and too little action. Maybe not a scum move but at least a reason to put pressure against him. Also have been pressuring players that I think are leaning toward town. CareyHammer have been not really gave much explanations for his votes. Thread this long should at least give some ideas who to vote.

ArcAngel9 - Leaning scum
Lurking again. Not saying that all lurkers are scum but players that don't play don't give any information for townfolk.

This is just what my gut feeling is after skimming the thread. I haven't read the whole thing and really don't have strong reads on anyone. I would vote CareyHammer or ArcAngel9 but don't want to drop the to L-1 on basis of just on fast catch up.

[Z7-852]

After further reading I have to say that both CareyHammer and ArcAngel9 cannot be scum. Now I'am actually leaning toward ArchAngel9. CareyHammer could have played completly random so far. I would say he is town and AA9 is scum. If not this then other way around.

[Revenus]

After further reading I have to say that both CareyHammer and ArcAngel9 cannot be scum. Now I'am actually leaning toward ArchAngel9. CareyHammer could have played completly random so far. I would say he is town and AA9 is scum. If not this then other way around.

I completely agree with this; I don't think CH would have put AA to l-1 were they scumbuddies.