Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

[VisceraEyes]

Anyway....THAT ASIDE...I intend to put my thoughts up to this point into the thread tonight after work. I'm leaving for Vegas in the morning and I won't be back until after the weekend, so if we get our replacement or stuff happens PLEASE DON'T HAMMER ANYONE until I get back. Not that it looks like that's going to be an issue given how everyone's just kinda milling around, but I just wanted that out there.

[goodmorning]

Quite so as in you are quite correct.

[fferyllt]

Quite so what? Are you saying that being unsure of your reads is a scum thing? Is that the awfulness you're trying to inject into this thread?

With some players, it's a different kind of uncertainty. Town tends to put their vote where their compass currently points. Scum tend to hedge. Though one size doesn't fit all.

Looking forward to your thoughts. And if you can drive a truck through my reasons for thinking that Fropome was town please do.

[Z7-852]

At last someone else sees (#1543) how randomly

VisceraEyes

votes. Again he creates a new bandwagon (#1536) without giving a case. I know that he tried to make "case" against Mac in D1 but lot have happened since then. It's either that ViscereEyes is ignoring latest game, doesn't want to make a new case or don't have one. All three are signs of bad game that hurts town. He even admits (#1545) that he doesn't need any reasons behind his votes. It's not scummy to be unsure about your reads (#1549) but it is scummy to start randomly voting people without any bases.

goodmorning

must have understanded (#1532) my posts wrong. I just pointed that your post have been short and uninformative. Also there were moments when you really didn't post anything useful for ether side. This doesn't mean that you haven't been scumhunting just that your scumhunting have been weak. Lately her game have improved a little but it's still not as active as you would expect from IC.

I really don't see difference (#1533) of asking to clarify your reads or asking to give your reads. Both mean that you ask information from me and not giving anything yourself. But at least now

Mac

gives his reads (#1533) even if I don't agree with them.

GuyInFreeze

have been inactive quite sometime. Unlike Mac (#1533) I don't certainly see this as scummy but at least it's suspicious. He have been posting yesterday but not on this game.

It seems that I should really start pushing more against VisceraEyes. goodmorning haven't been so scummy lately but VisceraEyes is consistent with the play style that I find scummy.
VOTE: VisceraEyes

Scumometer (tm)
fferyllt < GuyInFreezer < Eye urn < Mac < goodmorning < VisceraEyes

[fferyllt]

GiF posted a V/LA in a different game he's playing. He may have missed this one.

I hate it when the people in my do not lynch pile vote for each other.

[Mac]

GuyInFreeze

have been inactive quite sometime. Unlike Mac (#1533) I don't certainly see this as scummy but at least it's suspicious. He have been posting yesterday but not on this game.

that's not what I said I found scummy about him & is, quite frankly, a big misrep.

[goodmorning]

GiF posted a V/LA in a different game he's playing. He may have missed this one.

Well, I've just come off V/LA but to be honest there's not much for me to say. We should lynch Fe, we should lynch Z, and if we haven't won by then we should lynch Mac or GIF.

Since I'm pretty sure of those reads barring some massive revelation, the fact that I'm only deciding which of my third-placers is more scummy just in case I'm wrong about Fe and Z (I'm not) means there really isn't much questioning for me to do. Add that to the low levels of activity and wait for a replacement to be searched for and found, accusing me of inactivity is both accurate and pointless.

In a moment I'm going to post some small amount of content on Z just to feel like I'm doing something, and also because I'm slightly curious.

[goodmorning]

Spoiler: Scumometer Analysis

(Names in red have fallen, names in green have risen, names in black have stayed the same. Names in blue are confTown.)

Eye urn < fferyllt< Goodmorning < Deras < Mac< Revenus < CareyHammer <

ArcAngel9

Eye urn < fferyllt< Goodmorning < Deras < Mac< Revenus < CareyHammer <

ArcAngel9

fferyllt

<

Revenus

<

Eye urn

< Deras < Mac <

Goodmorning

< CareyHammer <

ArcAngel9

fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac < Goodmorning < CareyHammer <

ArcAngel9

fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac < Goodmorning < CareyHammer <

ArcAngel9

fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac < Goodmorning < VisceraEyes <

ArcAngel9

fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac < goodmorning < VisceraEyes <

ArcAngel9

fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac <

Arc

Angel9

<

goodmorning

<

VisceraEyes

fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac <

ArcAngel9

< goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac <

ArcAngel9

< goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < Revenus <

Deras

<

Mac

<

Eye urn

<

ArcAngel9

< goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < Revenus < Deras < Mac < Eye urn <

ArcAngel9

< goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < Revenus < Deras < Mac < Eye urn <

ArcAngel9

< goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < Revenus < Deras < Mac < Eye urn <

ArcAngel9

< goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < GuyInFreezer < Deras < Mac < Eye urn <

ArcAngel9

< goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < GuyInFreezer < Mac < Eye urn < goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < GuyInFreezer <

Eye urn

<

Mac

< goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < GuyInFreezer < Eye urn < Mac < goodmorning < VisceraEyes

fferyllt < GuyInFreezer < Eye urn < Mac < goodmorning < VisceraEyes

From a player who said ([post]656[/post) "My only good read is ArcAngel9 and have hunch on rest." he sure has kept his reads pretty fucking steady since then.
From a player whose scumlist I was

never

at the bottom of, he sure has kept pushing at me pretty hard. His earliest posts, where he was pushing AA9, and his most recent, on VE, are the only ones he's not been pushing me in.

[TraceyLyn11]

VOTE COUNT 2.4

[L-3] Z7-852: (goodmorning)

[L-4] fferyllt:

[L-3] Mac: (VisceraEyes)

[L-4] Eye Urn:

[L-3] VisceraEyes: (Z7-852)

[L-4] GuyInFreezer:

[L-4] goodmorning:

Not Voting:

4 (fferyllt, Mac, Eye Urn, GuyInFreezer)

• With seven alive, it takes four to lynch.
  
• Day Two's deadline: May 16, 2013 CST or in (expired on 2013-05-16 15:30:00).
  
• V/LA: VisceraEyes ((expired on 2013-05-06 00:00:00)), GuyInFreezer ((expired on 2013-05-05 00:00:00))

[TraceyLyn11]

Eye Urn failed to pick up his prod. He will be replaced.

Searching...

[Z7-852]

I will shortly answer concerns that goodmorning bought up (#1557) about my reads through out the game.

Since early game I haven't had good read on Eye Urn, Deras, Mac or Revenus (GuyInFreeze). These players are still on null/leaning town zone. They have been so passive that I really haven't had any information on what bases I should suspect them more. Just flaking out isn't as suspicious as just posting uninformative stuff and lurking while still following the thread. This is why I had my own thoughts on Eye Urn and Mac. You could say that I have one strong town read (fferyllt), on strong scum read (VisceraEyes) and one semi-strong scum read (goodmorning). Other players are still little gray zone due their inactivity. As stated earlier in the thread by fferyllt, Scumometer (tm) just ranks players but don't rely how strong the reads are.

Scumometer (tm)
fferyllt < GuyInFreezer < Eye urn < Mac < goodmorning < VisceraEyes

[goodmorning]

If said concerns were more than 2% of the reason I think you're Scum, I'd be worried.

[fferyllt]

I guess we're at another standstill waiting for Eye's replacement.

[Z7-852]

Seems so.
In the mean time could you goodmorning write open the whole case against me. With fast ISO-hunt I didn't find much during this day and only something against fropome (previous holder of the slot) at the end of the day 1. There were some single comments but not a good summary. You really should have a strong case considering how strongly you feel about my scumminess.

[Icebox]

OK. We have 12 days left. I'm gonna use this today to reread again for solid reads when I have this pumping motivation.

[GuyInFreezer]

OK. We have 12 days left. I'm gonna use this today to reread again for solid reads when I have this pumping motivation.

[goodmorning]

Lawl, hydra slip. Good thing all the

new

newbies are dead or replaced, or they'd be extremely confused.


Z, I have no time right now due to playing catch-up, but rest assured that as much as I hate cases I will have one on your slot within the next 48 hours.

[GuyInFreezer]

I feel you.

for prefering more interactive scumhunting, I hate building cases too.

[guru guru]

/in for next

PM'd.

[TraceyLyn11]

Ineffective replaces Eye Urn! Welcome him.

[fferyllt]

Welcome Ineffective! Thanks for replacing in to a 60+ page game.

[Ineffective]

SHit....

I was crossing my fingers hoping to replace in as scum so i didnt have to read these walls of text

are flips not revealed? There is a blacked out blank where id expect dead players flips to be in roster post.

Everyone give me a summary based on your perspective... But beware of the new summary meta lol http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28238

[fferyllt]

I think if you drag your cursor over the blacked out text you'll see the text.

We lynched ArcAngel9 day 1 and she was vanilla town.

Deras was the night 1 kill and he was also vanilla town.

I'm too sleepy to do a summary right now, but there's a fair bit of suspicion swirling around your predecessor.

[Ineffective]

Ok well i just opened with the best towntell ever so dont fos my slot anymore

[Ineffective]

can i just call barcode avi with numbers for a username and precise phrasing. mr barcode?

VOTE: mrbarcode[/'vote]