Newbie 1388 Nexlexia Game Over

Titus · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:19 am

In post 432, DoctorPepper wrote:I havent given a statement on NS, yet I also havent given a statement on Rika, CDB, JKM, and Pebro. Your associative tell doesnt make sense. Also, what makes you so sure that NS and yes are going to flip differently, this implies that at least one of them is scum, when it could actually be possible that a town vs town is happening.

You take back any read of the majority of the players here. This really sounds like you are trying to have your cake and eat it too. No I was claiming NS was town directly but also claiming to have no statement on him. Pick one.

I have heard enough for my vote to go on Dr. Pepper. Willing to change to Yessiree though.

Vote:Dr. Pepper

DoctorPepper · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:22 am

I had permission to hammer. James's hammer was scummy because he never asked intent to hammer. Thats why it was bad. Its not simply because it cuts the day short. Read from context, Titus.

I literally said "I think NS is town". You bolded it. How is that not an official stance? So I said I havent given one? Yeah, I forgot until you pointed it out.

Lol. You say me saying I want a bob lynch while saying i want yessirree is scummy, then you do the same.

DoctorPepper · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:26 am

Wait wait wait, how exactly are you sure that yessirree is a mislynch??

Slip. Again.

DoctorPepper · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:26 am

Calling the team of Titus and Bob

DoctorPepper · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:29 am

In post 449, Titus wrote:
My issue is that being the hammer on a mislynch isn't the problem.
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Titus · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:29 am

Oh and Yessiree was at L minus 1 when I made that post. Not hammering with that much time left when my assertions can be discussed. After all, I was in the game for five minutes at that point. That post was a clear intent to hammer. I don't think I used the buzzwords though.

Days should NEVER be cut really short unless there's an emergency. Permission to hammer does not equal permission to cut day short.

I still think Yessiree is scummy but I was the bloody hammer vote until JK changed his vote. Not cutting the day short on my first replacement post.

Your post having no official stance comes after your defense of NS. Hence why you are trying to be subtle in your teammate defense.

Titus · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:31 am

In post 454, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 449, Titus wrote:
My issue is that being the hammer on a mislynch isn't the problem.
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That is taken out of context. The problem is that the last voter is not always scum. Sometimes hammerers are wrong. That's what that means.

Titus · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:33 am

In post 452, DoctorPepper wrote:Wait wait wait, how exactly are you sure that yessirree is a mislynch??

Slip. Again.

Not sure where you get this from.

DoctorPepper · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:35 am

I never said the last voter is always scum. But you literally said "my issue with a hammer on a mislynch". Why are you so sure its a mislynch???

Then later you say yes is scummy, while saying "while you defend your partner". Days should never be cut short? Dont weasel your way out of this, its not scummy to cut a day short by like what, 2 days? And how many times do I have to tell you that the James vote was dumb because there was no intent to hammer. Im pretty sure if people agree to a hammer, there is an underlying concession that its okay to end the day.

But oh well, I cant convince scum that they are scum

Titus · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:50 am

In post 458, DoctorPepper wrote:I never said the last voter is always scum. But you literally said "my issue with a hammer on a mislynch". Why are you so sure its a mislynch???
The context of my post was saying that the last voter on a mislynch is not always scum. I STILL AM NOT SURE WHERE YOU ARE GETTING I SAID THINK YESSIREE IS A MISLYNCH. I had put you and him on opposite sides. When I became more convinced of your scum status, I put my vote on you.

Then later you say yes is scummy, while saying "while you defend your partner". Days should never be cut short? Dont weasel your way out of this, its not scummy to cut a day short by like what, 2 days? And how many times do I have to tell you that the James vote was dumb because there was no intent to hammer. Im pretty sure if people agree to a hammer, there is an underlying concession that its okay to end the day.
I'm weaseling because my positions are well reasoned. You are selectively quoting posts to where it is hard to understand you. LOL, I think you're just upset because I caught you.

But oh well, I cant convince scum that they are scum
Agreed, well that I won't convince you that you are scum.

Well, there's a lot of evidence for people to figure out who the real scum are. I think NS and Dr. P are the real scum, not yessiree who was misunderstood. I wasn't expecting Dr. P to go seven degrees of total.

DoctorPepper · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:18 am

Look who's upset at being caught. Lol. Look at the back track. First yes was scum, so when I attacked the faulty logic, apparently Im scum. Im not selectively quoting, you slipped.

Sheep me and lets win town.

DoctorPepper · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:21 am

You attacked me cause i said I wasnt opportunistic cause I could have hammered yessirree if I wanted to, i countered by saying that its not scummy. You counter by saying you didnt think hammers on mislynches were scummy. You know he is a mislynch

DoctorPepper · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:35 am

Why is everyone posting on other threads but not this one? Its basically a won game for crying out loud

Titus · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:50 am

In post 461, DoctorPepper wrote:You attacked me cause i said I wasnt opportunistic cause I could have hammered yessirree if I wanted to, i countered by saying that its not scummy. You counter by saying you didnt think hammers on mislynches were scummy. You know he is a mislynch

I always had you as opposing Yessiree. If you're scum, he's likely town. I countered by saying you couldn't hammer AT THAT TIME because hammers with days to go are scummy. You are twisting again. I never said I knew Yessiree was a mislynch but your reaction pretty much confirmed that.

Basically a won game, now who's overconfident? Basically, you've got your two scum reads and you're claiming you have to be right. *sigh*

DoctorPepper · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:56 am

When the fuck did I say that? Misrep. Thanks scum.

Arent you saying me being overconfident because I have two scum reads and I claim to be right a concession that you know Im town? See, if you were confident I was scum, you wouldnt say I was overconfident, because duh scum need no confidence in their reads because they know who is who.

Yeah Im done, and so is this game. GG town, we pretty much won.

yessiree · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:08 am

NS called the team of CBD and Bob

DoctorPepper called the team of Titus(former Rikablu) and Bob

NS had a FoS on Rikablu at the start

DoctorPepper intended to hammer me but didn't after I claimed VT.

What if Bob flips town? Are we back to square one?

DoctorPepper · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:10 am

Well I believed your claim and I didnt think you were scum anymore.

Im more confident in a Titus scum flip actually.

VOTE: Titus

Knowing Titus, she'll say its OMGUS, without realizing that OMGUS actually refers to voting for someone just because they voted for you.

Sheep me.

Titus · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:18 am

In post 465, yessiree wrote:NS called the team of CBD and Bob

DoctorPepper called the team of Titus(former Rikablu) and Bob

NS had a FoS on Rikablu at the start

DoctorPepper intended to hammer me but didn't after I claimed VT.

What if Bob flips town? Are we back to square one?

If Bob flips town, we look to his strongest defenders as likely being scum. There may be shocking lynches but we are never at square one once we have clear alignments going on.

Dr. Pepper, I think you've been doing your misrepresentations and voting me because I voted for you. I do think your reaction is solely OMG Scum play.

yessiree · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:21 am

In post 467, Titus wrote: If Bob flips town, we look to his strongest defenders as likely being scum.

Sorry I can't grasp the concept behind this statement, why would a scum go out of his way to defend a town?

Titus · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:24 am

The reasoning for this is, the scum will defend the newbies they feel would owe them a debt of gratitude later on in the game. All they have to do is make sure the defense is weak enough to get the lynch through anyway. It's a tight rope but that's where I'd look. His strongest defenders means those who are the most vocal about his innocence but providing no evidence of such.

EX: OMG, How could you be such an idiot and vote for John?

DoctorPepper · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:24 am

Holy shit you have got to be kidding me. This is the weakest scum defense I have ever seen. I've misrepped you? 1. Thats false. 2. Youre a hypocrite. 2. I think I've explained why I voted you, your effort to discredit it is weak.

Town win imminent homie

Titus · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:38 am

In post 470, DoctorPepper wrote:Holy shit you have got to be kidding me. This is the weakest scum defense I have ever seen. I've misrepped you? 1. Thats false. 2. Youre a hypocrite. 2. I think I've explained why I voted you, your effort to discredit it is weak.

Town win imminent homie

I think I've laid out where you've misrepped me pretty well. The goal should be ensuring everyone communicates their thoughts so we can determine who the scum are. I'm always open to the possibility that I am wrong. However, you are SO fixed on being right that you are trying to shut down Yessiree's communication and bait an anger response from me. It's not happening.

DoctorPepper · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:41 am

Hey, here's the thing. Scum need not be right. Because they never are unless they are bussing. You saying im fixated on being right is a concession you know im town.

Guys, it so obvious now. Lets just get this over with.

DoctorPepper · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:42 am

I am done trying to convince you or anyone else that youre scum, it should be obvious by now. Goodnight

Titus · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:00 am

In post 472, DoctorPepper wrote:Hey, here's the thing. Scum need not be right. Because they never are unless they are bussing. You saying im fixated on being right is a concession you know im town.

Guys, it so obvious now. Lets just get this over with.

Actually, scum are fixedated on being right in order to persuade people. It's OMG I am so right, sheep me without evidence that's a scum tell. Being open to reason and coordinating the group are scum tells, WTF? Bascially, town plays to you are arrogant asshole I'm the only smart one in the room plays. Again, if everyone's so confident, we don't have a cohesive group that makes it hard to lynch scum. We need to lay our REASONS out on paper.

Good night.