The Red Wedding - The Goose is Loose

[Amrun]

P normal, yes. Also, I've said you were town three times for the following reasons:

1) I was going to vote you for bad reck vote but realized something else you did was townish (moving us out of rvs).

2) The crash ate that, so I was re-stating it for myself as a memory device when I iso myself later in game.

3) You mentioned it, and I responded to you.

Why you think that is excessive is beyond me. But you never answered my question about buddying.

[macmollie]

Piratemollie, not sure how calling your votes bad even though I have an early town read on you is buddying. Why did you classify it as such?

I guess you mean this one?

cos you are following my foses

nexus and venny with any elaboration on reasons of your own

[Amrun]

I never FoSed Nexus.

I said his basis for a serious vote has been in the worst in the game so far, yes, but I never said I suspect him. Why did you assume I did?

And I literally didn't even remember you suspected Venmar. The first time I voted Venmar was before the crash, and before you did.

But that's an acceptable answer, yes. Wrong, but given that you think it, it would qualify as buddying.

[Andrius]

VoteCount

Nachomamma8 [5] - tsunami, Tierce, Tamuz, BROseidon, macmollie
KillerApple [5] - Ankamius, Amrun, xReckonerx, Venmar, Generic
ChannelDelibird [2] - Dekes, Metal Sonic
BROseidon [1] - KillerApple
Tierce [1] - AurorusVox
Dekes [1] - Nachomamma8
Generic [1] - ChannelDelibird

Not Voting [1] - Nexus

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline will be July 6th 2013, 4:00pm PST.

[Tierce]

Hey, Generic.

The town hunting comment for example, declaring someone town without basis is a combination of arrogance and not having a proper case to base such a declaration on, yet you were fine with this as game progression. I am feeling there is a sense of misguidedness but the concern I have on the gut read is are you trying to back up a teammate?

Oi.

Have mercy on the non-native, my English curled up in horror halfway through this. Can you rephrase it?

UNVOTE: Nachomamma8
VOTE: Venmar

Amrun--what games have you played with Nacho before?

[Ankamius]

Nacho rises to the top of my scumlist if KA flips scum.

[Nachomamma8]

And when KA flip town, I'm your designated shepherd? Sounds like a deal to me.

[macmollie]

I thought you kind of did fos him by saying his reasons for his vote was bad.

I never voted venny but I fosed him by pointing out at that time he was looking pretty awkward and out of step.

did we just settle our feathers or what

still have my eye on you but I would think that if you were scum you would be more cautious and less likely to see where the other person is coming from. it closes your options for later in the game if you were scum, when you start negotiation procedures this early in the game. it is the very opposite of hedging your bets.

are you missing faraday? I am.

eta:

UNVOTE: nacho

look who suddenly got all serious :/

[macmollie]

eta: that was to amrun

[macmollie]

eta2: but the look who got all serious was to ankiamus

[Nachomamma8]

are you missing faraday? I am.

faraday totally isn't in this game
i wanted to wait to break the news to you but I thought it wasn't a good time

[Tierce]

are you missing faraday? I am.

faraday totally isn't in this game
i wanted to wait to break the news to you but I thought it wasn't a good time

Dammit Nacho this is not how you announce that someone will not be graced with Faraday's company.

[macmollie]

are you missing faraday? I am.

faraday totally isn't in this game
i wanted to wait to break the news to you but I thought it wasn't a good time

jesus christ I have a spreadsheet and should know he isn't playing

why the fuck did I think he was

[Amrun]

Amrun--what games have you played with Nacho before?

Given our tenure on the site, quite a few. One that is sticking out in my mind is Always On, which we had a pretty good alliance going during because we read each other as town. Not a whole lot of people read me as town that game, though I was, and how he went about reading KA here reminded me of that with one notable exception: he's been more vocal about it, more nip-it-in-the-bud as opposed to reading me town but oh my there is a wagon on Amrun what a shame. We talked a lot during the course of the game and I learned more about how he scumhunted. I think I still have his phone number in my phone from that, in fact.

Nacho was scum that game, but it was multi-scum and I think his read on me was genuine. I was wrong on my read of him, at least initially and I don't remember if I ever reversed it, because I could genuinely see his wheels turning. If you check out that set-up, you might end up understand why that was so.

Nacho has the ability to fool me as scum (obviously), but still, his reversal on KA read as genuine and I'm nowhere within the realm of wanting to lynch him any time seen.


REGARDLESS, I think he's wrong about KA. Of course he's a newb -- that doesn't make him town.

[pirate mollie]

Amrun--what games have you played with Nacho before?

Given our tenure on the site, quite a few. One that is sticking out in my mind is Always On, which we had a pretty good alliance going during because we read each other as town. Not a whole lot of people read me as town that game, though I was, and how he went about reading KA here reminded me of that with one notable exception: he's been more vocal about it, more nip-it-in-the-bud as opposed to reading me town but oh my there is a wagon on Amrun what a shame. We talked a lot during the course of the game and I learned more about how he scumhunted. I think I still have his phone number in my phone from that, in fact.

Nacho was scum that game,

but it was multi-scum and I think his read on me was genuine

. I was wrong on my read of him, at least initially and I don't remember if I ever reversed it, because I could genuinely see his wheels turning. If you check out that set-up, you might end up understand why that was so.

Nacho has the ability to fool me as scum (obviously), but still, his reversal on KA read as genuine and I'm nowhere within the realm of wanting to lynch him any time seen.


REGARDLESS, I think he's wrong about KA.

Of course he's a newb -- that doesn't make him town

.

newb scum don't say things like "I triple dog dare you to lynch me".

it takes confident scum to do that and newbs don't usually have it, unless they are not a newb.

and that is a whole different kettle so to speak.

[Ankamius]

eta2: but the look who got all serious was to ankiamus

I started being serious the moment I stopped talking about wine and whores in every post.

[macmollie]

Amrun--what games have you played with Nacho before?

Given our tenure on the site, quite a few. One that is sticking out in my mind is Always On, which we had a pretty good alliance going during because we read each other as town. Not a whole lot of people read me as town that game, though I was, and how he went about reading KA here reminded me of that with one notable exception: he's been more vocal about it, more nip-it-in-the-bud as opposed to reading me town but oh my there is a wagon on Amrun what a shame. We talked a lot during the course of the game and I learned more about how he scumhunted. I think I still have his phone number in my phone from that, in fact.

Nacho was scum that game,

but it was multi-scum and I think his read on me was genuine

. I was wrong on my read of him, at least initially and I don't remember if I ever reversed it, because I could genuinely see his wheels turning. If you check out that set-up, you might end up understand why that was so.

Nacho has the ability to fool me as scum (obviously), but still, his reversal on KA read as genuine and I'm nowhere within the realm of wanting to lynch him any time seen.


REGARDLESS, I think he's wrong about KA.

Of course he's a newb -- that doesn't make him town

.

newb scum don't say things like "I triple dog dare you to lynch me".

it takes confident scum to do that and newbs don't usually have it, unless they are not a newb.

and that is a whole different kettle so to speak.

that was me

[macmollie]

eta2: but the look who got all serious was to ankiamus

I started being serious the moment I stopped talking about wine and whores in every post.

wat else you got

[Amrun]

newb scum don't say things like "I triple dog dare you to lynch me".

it takes confident scum to do that and newbs don't usually have it, unless they are not a newb.

and that is a whole different kettle so to speak.

Well, see, there's a difference between "someone who folds under pressure a lot" and "an actual new player." I think KillerApple is Type A, not Type B -- at least enough to be aware of his own meta.

Which reminds me.

KillerApple, what's your experience with mafia?

[xRECKONERx]

And when KA flip town, I'm your designated shepherd? Sounds like a deal to me.

I'll trade you lynch for lynch.

[Metal Sonic]

Posting on phone

The Apple guy just called me scum when I had only 1 post at rvs? How does that even happen

VOTE: killerapple

[Metal Sonic]

Btw I finished all 9 pages yeah I'm up to scratch

[Venmar]

newb scum don't say things like "I triple dog dare you to lynch me".

it takes confident scum to do that and newbs don't usually have it, unless they are not a newb.

and that is a whole different kettle so to speak.

KA said he has a mafia record off-site, so I think he has potential to be confident scum in any case. Not to mention Newb scum do dumb things :/

Apple is scum, i'm very comfortable in this wagon.

[Amrun]

Btw I finished all 9 pages yeah I'm up to scratch

And?

[Nexus]

I like this wagon.

UNVOTE: macmollie
VOTE: Generic

Bad

And ain't I the popular one :p

A down day and I now am lead wagon

Bad

Quick question, Tierce -- why aren't you voting me?

This made me uncomfortable

wait

did my two scummies and join date two years prior to you fool you?

I'm not offended at all -- it's a valid question, though way off base. I'm not new to mafia in the slightest, though I don't pretend to be t3h best player evar.

More likely, you are new to MS meta, because the townhunting comment is pretty straightforward and common.

Full town cases are, in fact, terrible, and that's also a pretty standard opinion. Many people here actually believe that sharing townreads at all is something you shouldn't do.

So I return the question to you: how new to mafia games are YOU?

This made me uncomfortable on initial read, re-read showed me I had missed context so nvm.

All 3 of his posts give me bad vibes.

I usually come across as scum when I'm town. I play on another site and my scum survival rate is 100%, but my town survival rate is probably like 5%. And then I say these types of things that make my situation even worse

@BROseidon- What makes Nacho seem off to you?

Metal Sonic is seriously bothering me. He jumps on the early wagon and then doesn't even bother to say anything after. But because of this he is probably town.

Generic is coming across as frustrated townie so... UNVOTE: Generic
And Ankamius is probably town.

Wow. Bad.

Yeah no I smell scum screwing up,

Vote: KillerApple

Easy jump. Reck pointed it on, you went straight on that wagon. +100000 sp

The additional case reckoner has begun to poke apple with is even more concerning. I'm not encouraged by apples responses to what seem decent points. And post 150 is a hand waving away of it without looking like he is reacting in a negative way to a momentum gaining wagon.

vote killerapple

You seem to be attempting to hold a measure of control under pressure but you aren't effectively answering the points raised against you, it's vague and dismissive.

Lol I have no control. I will most likely be lynched. The points raised against me are pretty stupid considering I would never be so careless as scum. But I might as well shut my mouth because this post will also be used against me in some way.

Trying to offset your scumminess by daring us to lynch also isn't going to work BZZZZZZZZZZZZT

How about this? I

triple dog dare you.

Trying to decide whether this is cocky scum or cocky town. I'm leaning the former now.

Btw, Reck is the most town person here.

vote KillerApple

NEVERMIND

all three have lurking tendencies, so I think they're doing their lurking tendency thing.

I call 'em like I see 'em. I checked Bro's games and he doesn't strike me as the lurking type (in the Newbie you two actually played together he posted like every day). Neither does CDB in the games I checked.

Guess, it's a matter of opinion then whether they're laying low (don't act as if scum never do that) or just lurking for other reasons.

If you are going to use meta, at least use it right.

Posting on phone

The Apple guy just called me scum when I had only 1 post at rvs? How does that even happen

VOTE: killerapple

Btw I finished all 9 pages yeah I'm up to scratch

And your opinion is?

I'd be happy with a lynch on Apple or Sonic. I would like to see more from CDB, and I feel that Nacho is town.