Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Antihero]

Are you a troll?

[waynegg]

I'm a vig. Thought that was covered pretty well already.

[Antihero]

I would ask you how the existence of a redirector would point to me being scum, but then i said "fuck it"

fuck it

[BROseidon]

Bro

The fact that you've been in both of my scumgames and think that I'm scum here is baffling to me...

[BROseidon]

Can we get back to the regularly scheduled programming of lynching scumcho?

[waynegg]

i was going to make a post about how much you've been had this game, waynegg

And see, that's the beautiful thing about how play. I lead without looking like it. Since I've replaced in, I've lead 2 scum lynches from my D1 reads, all while looking like I wasn't doing anything. Kinda like I'm doing right now.

[waynegg]

Bro

The fact that you've been in both of my scumgames and think that I'm scum here is baffling to me...

You always look the same to me so I've given up trying to actually read you. POE suggests you as scum. Nothing to do with your posting.

So, what did you want to talk about?

[BROseidon]

lol @ you thinking you led the Mala lynch.

Mala was obvscum from long before you replaced in (was obvscum from nhammen's first post, but I digress...), and it was mollie who prevented that lynch from going through day 2. Y'know, before you replaced in.

You get the bulk of the credit for Aj, though.

pedit: I wanted to talk to you about Anti and FTL. I'm about to go to sleep, though. Like I said, busy through Thursday, can't really stick around for immense amounts of time.

[BROseidon]

Also, I look the same here as I did in War in the Middle East and Xenoblade? Really?

[waynegg]

lol @ you thinking you led the Mala lynch.

Mala was obvscum from long before you replaced in (was obvscum from nhammen's first post, but I digress...), and it was mollie who prevented that lynch from going through day 2. Y'know, before you replaced in.

You get the bulk of the credit for Aj, though.

pedit: I wanted to talk to you about Anti and FTL. I'm about to go to sleep, though. Like I said, busy through Thursday, can't really stick around for immense amounts of time.

As far as Mala goes, yes she was already a sinking ship. Doesn't mean I didn't push her (in that special way where I do the opposite when I see no one wants to work with me, but I digress). I feel FTL. Until today I didn't really feel anti. His recentness is really bad though. I have D1 on both, but Venmar went back and forth across my list.

[waynegg]

No on Xeno, yes on War.

[waynegg]

When are you gonna be around on Thursday? Well make a date.

[BROseidon]

10-11pm ET work for you?

[waynegg]

Sure

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 5.2

[3] Nachomamma8 (Andrius, BROseidon, Ghostlin)
[2] BROseidon (Nachomamma8, Desperado)
[2] Desperado (Mac, Antihero)
[2] Trust Fund (notscience, Faster Than Light)
[1] Andrius (Trust Fund)
[1] Antihero (waynegg)
[1] Faster Than Light (TiphaineDeath)

With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-10-18 23:30:00)

[Mac]

mac sure is taking forever to claim night actions

sorry

i do this thing. called sleeping. but they are in the thread if you know where to look andy!

neighourized trust fund, tracked FTL to Trust Fund.

[Faster Than Light]

me and varsoon havent talked for a week

must synch to remove dissonance


antihero is probs town and that makes bro scum





also i had this insight in the shower

assume andy always reads nacho right

and nacho always reads andy right

nacho reads andy town

andy reads nacho scum

therefore nacho is scum ta-da

but the problem is i semi-cleared nacho

so unless he's a goon which is unlikely because scum is stacked up up with PRs



hmmmmmmm

[Antihero]

i was going to make a post about how much you've been had this game, waynegg

And see, that's the beautiful thing about how play. I lead without looking like it. Since I've replaced in, I've lead 2 scum lynches from my D1 reads, all while looking like I wasn't doing anything. Kinda like I'm doing right now.

Oh, so to answer my troll question, you

are

a troll. And a conceited one at that.

My last post points out an obvious gaping flaw in your logic, but you seem to be blissfully unaware of it.

So, yeah, you keep on trucking and thinking you're the superstar of the game, waynegg.

[Antihero]

me and varsoon havent talked for a week

must synch to remove dissonance

hey, when ya'll are doing this, please look at desperado

kthnxbye

[Faster Than Light]

do you think that he is scum?

because if he is on my scumlist that's one-too-many scumreads

but yes i will synch with varsoon

just leave a message !

[Antihero]

i don't know about bro being scum

he might be town who completely disregards common sense (he wouldn't be the only one)

[Nachomamma8]

the counterpoint, obviously, is if scum have people in the CONFTOWNBLOC that means they can just do what nacho is saying and lynch NONCONFTOWN until allhellbreakslooseth.

Find me possible scum in the townblock. Otherwise this is just nonsense speculation.

still think this is stretching like hell

how
where
We've had a grand total of one power role die by Day 5 and that power role was a mason. His partner's power role hasn't been disabled. There are no living power roles who have had their powers disabled from the "enabler" dying, meaning that it's only logical to conclude that it was scum power that was disabled. And if scum power had an enabler, and town power had a role that one-shot vanillaized scum, then it's only logical to conclude that the scumteam is fucking stacked and vanilla townie results are equivalent to confirmed town (with the possible exception of BRO's).

Could enable his own team- could enable abilities on both sides- could enable one common ability that both sides use (DayTalk). Who knows?

As far as abilities on our sides go, how many abilities have been disabled? (Zero)
Mac/Trust Fund, did you guys have daytalk but lose it with AJ's death?

Andy that spec is great and all, but how does it help us lynch scum?

In BROworld, setup speculation doesn't help you lynch scum but telling the IC to play better does.

"Why the actual fuck would you not lynch me WAY before the un-counter-claimed cop?" is my response to this since you were curious, nacho.

Good response!
BRO, your response?

you're a "universal read" the same way i'm a "universal read" buddy, by way of your claim.

nacho, please come in here and set everyone straight.

It's just waynegg, don't worry.

neighourized trust fund, tracked FTL to Trust Fund.

and in case you were having any doubts, FTL is even more town!

[Nachomamma8]

RECAP:

Do you want me to make cases on how you're town? How Waynegg is town not only by being town as fuck by play but by having a two-shot Vig (and knowing his second shot got whiffed on a bulletproof who FLIPPED BULLETPROOF)? How Varsoon is town for his "gambit" on me actually making a modicrum of sense as well as the posts he's pulled off with all the same genuine crazy flair we've consistently seen in the past and all know is obviously coming from town? Or maybe how TD and Mac are probably town because there are innocents on them and there's a claimed godfather? I think I'm missing a passionate case for NS being confirmed town, but his name on green makes that one self explanatory. That means there are 12 alive. Andrius is claiming a role that says "I CAN CONFIRM SOMEONE AS TOWN IF YOU LYNCH ME", which is something no scum ever said in his situation. That leaves TF/BRO/Desperado. With 7 confirmed town (FULLY CONFIRMED TOWN) and 5 not confirmed town, town can lynch every single one of the unconfirmed pool and be absolutely fucking fine. I lean town on TF because he seems to realize this and I'm not afraid of anyone squirming out of shit now that the SCUM TRAITOR GODFATHER ENABLER WHO OBVIOUSLY ENABLES ALL OF THIS HORRIBLY BROKEN SCUM POWER ROLES is dead. And yes, the scumteam being composed mainly of PRs makes me more likely town and a bad lynch. But I'm not a 100% confirm like the majority of the game, I fully acknowledge. Why can't you see that I have absolutely nowhere to run as scum? And why can't you see BRO AFRAID TO CLAIM/throwing dirt on confirmed power roles when he damn well knows better? He actually said the words "If Nacho/Desperado flip town." As town in that position, can you see yourself saying the same thing? Hell. Fucking. No. The only way town can win this game is if they stay within the lines and don't lynch confirmed town. I'm hauling as much ass as I can to keep you fucks on the right track, but honestly, it shouldn't take much.

We've had a grand total of one power role die by Day 5 and that power role was a mason. His partner's power role hasn't been disabled. There are no living power roles who have had their powers disabled from the "enabler" dying, meaning that it's only logical to conclude that it was scum power that was disabled. And if scum power had an enabler, and town power had a role that one-shot vanillaized scum, then it's only logical to conclude that the scumteam is fucking stacked and vanilla townie results are equivalent to confirmed town (with the possible exception of BRO's).

2. Andrius - d1 scum counterwagon + claimed supersaint with slight investigative powers (wants to be lynched)
4. BROseidon - nothing to clear
5. Desperado - nothing to clear
6. Faster Than Light - vanilla cop confirmed targetting what's essentially a VT after they outted by conftown
7. Ghostlin - un cc'ed mason
8. Mac - cop clear
10. Nachomamma8 - vt result when scumteam is likely all PRs (partial clear)
14. notscience, Midori Uzuki - innocent child
16. waynegg - two shot vig w/scum bulletproof
18. TiphaineDeath - cop clear
19. Trust Fund - unlikely scum based on target of BRO N1 (cabd-bro scum would have a better gambit, partial clear)
20. Antihero - un cc'ed cop w/scum godfather

7 confirmed town
5 unconfirmed
BROseidon/Desperado lynch
Desperado/BROseidon lynch

5 confirmed town
3 unconfirmed
Trust Fund hammers Andrius

4 confirmed town
1 unconfirmed
Nachomamma8 lynch

IF GAME IS STILL GOING ON (it won't be)
FTL lynch
since confirmation isn't 1000% like everyone else's, just pretty damn close.

[TiphaineDeath]

VOTE: broseidon

[BROseidon]

1) Setup spec is fine when it does things. Andy didn't get any new conclusions out of it because we've already setup specced this game to death.

2) I said "come into consideration." I'd evaluate options, although if you forced me to make a call right now I'd say TF.

I agree with Nacho's list for lynch order except swapping him for me, and we should use Andy sooner rather than later on the off chance that he's scum (if everyone wants to lynch me today I'll totally hammer on Andy instead)