Open 521: Jungle Republic (Alright. We'll call it a draw)

[Yggdra Union]

Ppl please vote SV in their next post.

[LlamaFluff]

unvote

Just realized I didn't do that in first post.

I want to actually do more of a read of the game, SV is probably where im going to end up though.

[Lord Mhork]

Vote Count 4.07

BOOMSHAKALAKA (0)
Alduskkel (0)
elleheathen (1) BOOMSHAKALAKA
LlamaFluff (1) Alduskkel
Yggdra Union (1) Shattered Viewpoint
Shattered Viewpoint (2) elleheathen, Yggdra Union

Not Voting:

LlamaFluff

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


V/LA-

BOOMSHAKALAKA and elleheathen have 48 hours before they will be prodded.

Night falls in (expired on 2013-10-19 01:19:00)

[Alduskkel]

Well, I'm here and certainly not counterclaiming.

[elleheathen]

Same. Now vote.

[Yggdra Union]

Yggdra, are you following Ald's plan? If so, why do you think I'm a wolf?

unvote

Vote: Yggdra

This guy

Needs more votes on him

-Aegina

[Alduskkel]

Same. Now vote.

Before LF reads and Boom comes back? No.

Honestly, this just makes me more nervous about the possibility of LF/you wolfteam >.>

[Yggdra Union]

What do you exactly want to hear from boom?
SV voted claimed maf. That enough is already a damn good sign that he's a wolf.
Or perhaps... are you stalling?

[Yggdra Union]

Also LF already gave out reads: you/SV wolf.

[Alduskkel]

What do I get from Boom? Potentially a counterclaim. Any reads they might have. Also:

unvote

Just realized I didn't do that in first post.

I want to actually do more of a read of the game, SV is probably where im going to end up though.

And anyway, what reason do I have to stall if I'm a wolf?

[LlamaFluff]

Idk, I def agree on Alduskkel but TK?

I agree that the 'thrown in there' part of balds read looks like he's implicating TK - but the fact that it's Aldus who calls it out makes me iffy - could be bussing or could be trying to use that

to

implicate.

Or -- get this -- I could be town and making a perfectly valid point. Imagine that. Do my interactions with baldeagle seriously read as scum? Please go through my iso.

Anyway, need my own damn table here:
Elle
Om - unlikely Mafia
ace - Seer (TOWN)
Krazy
Aeronaut (TK)
Boom - not a Werewolf
YU - not a Werewolf, unlikely Mafia

Cut off the likely/confirmed Town:
Elle
Om - unlikely Mafia
Krazy
Aeronaut (TK)
Boom - not a Werewolf

Mafia are probably Aeronaut and Boom/Krazy/elle. Werewolves are probably in Krazy/elle/Om.

IF Aeronaut is Mafia then I think it follows from there that elle is also Mafia, because she's nudging me forward ahead of Aeronaut as a lynch target.

If all that's true, then the Mafia are Aeronaut and elle, and the Werewolves are Krazy and Om.

Therefore:

Vote: Krazy

L-1 I believe.

Few things from this

1) "If Aero is mafia". Where are you getting that "if"? Seems arbitrary designation to me.
2) If the wolf group was krazy/OOTN/elle why are you voting Aero/me now? Did the Krazy-mafia flip make OOTN/elle less likely to be wolf somehow?

@YG - I still want to think on this. I think Adul is more likely wolf independently of everything else.
@Adul - Are you really going to continue to claim im wolf after the mafia claim? Because if you want to believe im wolf I just took all of the win chance out of my own hands by forcing that through if that's the case.

[Alduskkel]

1. I don't recall. That was 3 weeks ago. I guess I thought Aeronaut was Mafia back then? Don't know.
2. Again: 3 weeks ago. 1 game Day, too. My reads have changed, and you'll notice I basically say that I'm going to have to redo my PoE just 10 posts later.

As for "throwing out your win chance" ... won't you just kill YU? Then you'll get me lynched and win. That's how I imagine it'll go, anyway.

[LlamaFluff]

As for "throwing out your win chance" ... won't you just kill YU? Then you'll get me lynched and win. That's how I imagine it'll go, anyway.

So... OOTN is wolf? If that's your train of thought it would have to be a truth.

Also the OOTN/elle as wolf was a pretty recent read, nothing new outside of Krazy-mafia has been revealed there. When there are four possible wolf reads for you at that point, you moved essentially your #4 to the top spot with the #1 being mafia. That's a bit of a major shift that I don't see any clear reason you have backing it up.

[Alduskkel]

You started with the assumption that SV would flip wolf by saying that you took away your own chance at winning. I

continued

along that train of thought.

I said in that post that I thought it was elle/Aeronaut for Mafia, and then Krazy/Om for Wolves. Krazy flipped Mafia instead. That required a repairing.

[LlamaFluff]

I said in that post that I thought it was elle/Aeronaut for Mafia, and then Krazy/Om for Wolves. Krazy flipped Mafia instead. That required a repairing.

But

Werewolves are probably in Krazy/elle/Om.

Here you list all but Aero as wolf. Even removing Krazy then you have elle/OOTN left.

[Alduskkel]

I think it's become abundantly clear that elle/SV is just NOT the wolf pair in this game.

[Alduskkel]

If the game is just going to end in a draw (as you and YU think), then what's the point of all this questioning?

[LlamaFluff]

I think it's become abundantly clear that elle/SV is just NOT the wolf pair in this game.

So I should be voting you? Also it should be abundantly clear that elle/me is NOT the wolf pair. Mostly given how OOTN isn't dead right now and such.

If the game is just going to end in a draw (as you and YU think), then what's the point of all this questioning?

Because we still have to lynch wolf here.

Then wolf decides if they go for broke or not.

[Alduskkel]

1. Why would you vote me over SV?
2. If you're going to lynch SV then questioning me won't matter if the game is drawn.

[Yggdra Union]

Then vote SV so we can move along already.
Its about time that this day needs to end.

[Alduskkel]

Before LF reads and Boom comes back? No.

[Alduskkel]

Well, I guess mostly the second part of that now.

[Yggdra Union]

There's really no need to.
Everyone is calling SV wolf and he's not dead yet.
Also at this rate boom's gonna get replaced.
Save the mod some trouble. (He's dying tonight obv for being confirmed town)

[Yggdra Union]

And that everyone includes boom.

Also at this point llama is painfully town so idk why you're voting him.

[Alduskkel]

Last I checked Boom was voting elle.

LF ain't obv town, bro.

Anyway, I've already made up my mind that I'm not going through with any lynch until Boom shows up, so you're just going to have to deal with it.