Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Lost Butterfly]

BBMolla I love how you bid a lot on everything but wage freeze

~Sakura Hana

If you're going to scum claim, go all fucking in?

Did you check what you were quoting before latching onto it as evidence for BBmolla scum? Sakura obviously misread the post, since Molla had quoted the list of Not Yet Advertised abilities (and the two he DIDN'T advertise disappeared). So he must have misspoke and said "bid" instead of "advertised." If you'd read the list (and

advertised Wage Freeze like you'd said

), shouldn't you have known Wage Freeze couldn't be advertised tonight?

Also, who did you transfer your money to on N2, and how much did you send?

I feel like I'm alone in liking upside down more and pieguyn less after their back-and-forth.

KingdomAces, do you have actual opinions on pieguyn and upside down? It seems like you're interjecting yourself into the argument to quibble over a minor point and discuss Mafia theory, without telling us what it says about their alignments. Also, is it fair to say that you're very passive and wishy-washy this game?

[Lost Butterfly]

EBWOP: Okay, Wage Freeze

could

be advertised, but you know what I mean. It wasn't on the Not Yet Auctioned list.

[BBmolla]

Sorry, meant advertised obviously.

[BBmolla]

I advertised all but the two that got removed and messenger and neighborizer I believe.

[BBmolla]

I don't like this, particularly with what BB says afterwards.

Shocker

I wanted to make sure we got a lynch, that's all it came down to dude. I missed the hammer, so I thought he was at L-1 (admittedly it was past deadline but I wasn't going to mention that to the mod.)

[Lost Butterfly]

BUT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. WHY DID YOU ADVERTISE THE THINGS YOU DID? WHY WHY WHY? THERE IS LITERALLY NO TOWN MOTIVATION AT ALL FOR IT, UNLESS YOU THINK THAT TAILOR JUST SEWS PEOPLE BULLETPROOF VESTS OR SOMETHING.

That said, you're right and GP is wrong about the Seanald vote (never mind that your "distancing from the lynch" wasn't scummy in context).

[BBmolla]

Right. So...why would you advertise $5 on say...Governor, Tailor and Self-Watch (which IMHO is a horrible ability unless you manage to get someone to Medium you or catch someone you weren't expecting to use an non-lethal ability on you). This seems all over the place, and with just enough advertising on just enough Town abilites to look Town.

Because I want to get rid of the 4 I didn't advertise more than those.

Neighborizer and Messenger can connect the scumteams in combination with investigative roles. (That's bad)

I also felt Vote Freeze and Vote Nullifier could serve no pro-town purpose. Tailor I wasn't worried about over those. Governor and Self-Watch aren't that big of a deal.

[Lost Butterfly]

Oh, I didn't even notice you'd left Neighbourizer and Messenger off the list. I was focused on the last two. (I disagree with your ranking of the abilities, but it's plausible you believe it, so that's what matters.)

[BBmolla]

Tailor literally just counters cop, IF the cop selects the same target, IF the cop is town, and IF the tailor is anti town.

The 4 I excluded could be more effective for scum to have against the town as a whole.

[KingdomAces]

I still have Pie as a fairly solid townread. This argument is actually pushing upside more towards town for me though,

And yes, I've been incredibly passive and wishy-washy this game. The former because time, and the latter because I'm wishy-washy in life.

[BBmolla]

I originally only left off neighborizer and messenger, but I figured I should try to exclude some other obviously anti-town roles as well.

Originally I had bid, and I mean bid this time, 50 on cop, 6 on bulletproof, 15 on watcher, 15 on doctor, 15 on deadline. Then I noticed that the instructions were vague and indicated I probably should not bid anything. I didn't want to get yelled at so I changed it.

[Lost Butterfly]

Tailor literally just counters cop, IF the cop selects the same target, IF the cop is town, and IF the tailor is anti town.

The 4 I excluded could be more effective for scum to have against the town as a whole.

For future reference, this is not true.

Tailor x 3 (Targeted): Choose another player. Name

an investigative ability

and a result: if that ability is used on that player this Night, it will return

your specified result

instead of the real one -- the mod will perform all necessary formatting.

I'd asked Magua about this earlier: it works on any targeted ability. So even something like Accountant or Watcher is vulnerable to Tailor.

[BBmolla]

Whelp. My bad.

[BBmolla]

That's stupid broken jesus.

[Voidedmafia]

That was in response to your "straw that broke the camel's back."

Do you understand what that phrase means? No fucking duh it was a small thing. A straw is a small thing. That is how the phrase works - there was so much shit on the camel's back already that one straw was too much and the camel collapsed. What the fuck are you even saying right now?

What

I'M

saying is that using that as your proverbial straw (and yes I know what the phrase means) is just stupid. Really stupid.

Why? pieguy has just said that my interpretation of his post was correct.

And you really think that it was that scummy-bad (NOT bad bad, but scummy bad) that it turns you to voting him?

No, that's far too shallow to be worth voting over.

[Voidedmafia]

@Voided, inregards to what?

*sigh* quotes, where art thou?

Quote/link to me what you say you saw in 3124.

[Voidedmafia]

Bid or advertise...I can't this as being a scummy move. Certainly don't see the scum motivation (though bidding would give hm a whole lot of stupid points). Am I wrong in thinking this and why?

[Lord Mhork]

VOTE: Nero Cain

Can't even pretend to care about Molla right now. He could be vigged though.

[BBmolla]

I could be. Lemme just give someone my money before that happens though.

[Garuda]

Does anyone think Kingdom is town and if so why?

zdenek

that's about it, really

Still?

Um...thank you, Nacho?

You're welcome!

I don't think he produces much original stuff in terms of scumhunting as well,

I don't think this is true.

Right now other lynches I could do are ProHawk

Why do you find ProHawk scummy?

So I'm starting to get this scum read on KingdomAces. Anyone else feeling that?

Yes. Yes I am.

Too much scum-benefit in sheeping to be null.

The only true nulls are in instances where a player does something in every game/close to every game. Natirasha's self voting is one of those instances. Sakura sheeping me is another.

I don't understand why Voided voted Seanald in 112.

Unless of course there was some sort of gut, this one and not that one vibe going around the town.

We actually talked a lot about why we were voting which lurkers. Did you look at those reasons?

I'm also entirely happy with a muffin quicklynch after everything's set for tonight.

This probably isn't something that's gonna happen without an explanation.

Hey I forgot I had a third shot on my medium so I'm channeling no one

You used two shots already? One on Pyro, another on ???.

He seems very accepting of his own demise and eager to help the town (although the paranoia over a weak ability like Extra Vote being Gravedug is silly, it reads like townie paranoia).

I thought his reaction when we were going to lynch him originally and he had a "should I transfer all the money I have" moment reeked of incredible incredible towniness.

tl;dr: your whole push on me is opportunistic as fuck. this screams like scum lining up a mislynch

There are a ton of people who could be mislynched before you.

Vote: KingdomAces

Mhork, Molla.
Does this sound good to you?

[Magua]

Vote Count 4.1

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

uʍop ǝpısdn (2): pieguyn, VoidedMafia
KingdomAces (2): Lost Butterfly, Garuda
zMuffinMan (1): Espeonage
VoidedMafia (1): 1baldeagle1
pieguyn (1): uʍop ǝpısdn
BBmolla (1): Ghostly Penguin
Nero Cain (1): Lord Mhork

Not Voting (7): PeregrineV, Nero Cain, BBmolla, Harakiri, zMuffinMan, ProHawk, KingdomAces

Deadline for Day 4 is Thursday, November 28th, at 9:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-11-28 21:00:00)

New deadline as of post 3220 is Monday, November 18th at 3:30pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-11-18 15:30:00)

[Lord Mhork]

I did Lost Butterfly night one. I'm pretty sure I said that at some point earlier.

[Harakiri]

VOTE: BBMolla

Why? We've let Nero Cain, Seanald and others get away with stupid advertisements. I think we've established enough precedent that we're fine to allow people to advertise & get these shit-tier abilities and no one will bat an eye.

--We didn't advertise last night, but we sadly didn't win shit either. I hate it and it sucks--

[BBmolla]

Why would we policy lynch day 4, are you on drugs

[BBmolla]

VOTE: KingdomAces