A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[kanyeknowsbest]

yah i dont really get it

[kanyeknowsbest]

like im super confused right now because ive been obv town as hell and everyone was noting this just a day ago and now all of a sudden i havent done a single town thing this game? and the only argument anyone on my wagon (besides garruck) has proffered is process of elimination? idgi

[ooba]

no no no no no no no

one sign of weakness shouldn't translate into "everybody lynch kanye"

It's not your sign of weakness. He's scum - I guarantee it. I would have felt a lot better about you if you had just voted him right now though.

[kanyeknowsbest]

no no no no no no no

one sign of weakness shouldn't translate into "everybody lynch kanye"

It's not your sign of weakness. He's scum - I guarantee it. I would have felt a lot better about you if you had just voted him right now though.

yes youve been really spot on w. your reads this game. especially with the "look guys please lets not lynch quadz today" thing

[Eddard Stark]

Day 7, Vc 14

Alfred Borden (1) -

Shadoweh

elleheathen (1) -

Nautilius

Titus (1) -

kanyeknowsbest

The Alchemist (4) -

Cephrir, SafetyDance, Titus, Messiah Complex

Benmage (1) -

Alfred Borden

kanyeknowsbest (5) -

Tierce, Garruk Relentless, elleheathen, ooba, Benmage

Not voting (2)

:The Alchemist, Tammy

With 15 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 8th of December 20:15 EST
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-12-08 19:30:00)
  
• Titus is V/la (or will be!)

[kanyeknowsbest]

excellent guarantee this gets the ooba quality seal of approval

[ooba]

no no no no no no no

one sign of weakness shouldn't translate into "everybody lynch kanye"

It's not your sign of weakness. He's scum - I guarantee it. I would have felt a lot better about you if you had just voted him right now though.

yes youve been really spot on w. your reads this game. especially with the "look guys please lets not lynch quadz today" thing

Fuck you.

I said lynching Safety Dance first was a equally valid move as long as Quadz was lynched D5. And we both know that would have turned out better for town.

[kanyeknowsbest]

"hmm, one of 3 people alive in this game who have had a strong influence on making scum lynches happen? i guarantee hes scum"

[kanyeknowsbest]

your so bad at this game right now ooba.

[Nautilius]

please be nice you two

[Nautilius]

ooba, I'm searching for your case right now

[ooba]

This is from yesterday's notes:

@Quadz:
In post 2305, you end it with "My vote stays for now. (I am not jumping on a growing Ooba wagon, guys, this is how bad I think Spy's hammer was.)"

Let's set this in context. I have been your top suspect right from the start of D1. So you passing up on the rising wagon of Shadow+PnJ - obviously means you really thought that SpyreX was really scummy.

In 2355, obviously your thoughts on SpyreX really haven't changed much as noted by these lines:
- "This reasoning can go jump off a goddamned bridge. Unless his power is "hammer a dude or two and WIN GAME," it's not worth hammering someone you cannot possibly have a read on."
- "Also, show me examples of you taking that opportunity in the past, or expressing willingness to do so. Forgive me if I don't just take your word for it."

But you remove your vote from SpyreX and then proceed to vote Nacho.

^I wrote the above post after 2355. But I rationalised it could be a vote for pressure too - after all - you did call Nacho a weaker scummy read. And I realised the easy way to figure out if your SpyreX=scum convictions were faked was to see how you played after that. (so I never posted this)

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So, in short,
- Quadz thought I was scum for most of the game (D1,D2,D3)
- But voted SpreX because he thought SpyreX's hammer was that bad (He even ignored a starting wagon on me)
- Quadz procceds to vote Nacho because he didnt give reasons for those he called scum (flimsy jump off from the SpyreX wagon when it was at 8 votes)
- Quadz proceeds to vote the Alchemist
- Quadz is vehement that Alchemist is scum and never moves back to the SpyreX wagon
- D4 starts, there's ZERO mention of the Alchemist
- Quadz votes SafetyDance

Bunch of opportunistic votes and both his SpyreX=scum conviction and Alchemist=scum conviction appear faked.

Vote: Quadz

And the quadz lynch you keep taking credit for - let's not forget who made that really happen.

[kanyeknowsbest]

you threw that fish back bud. your welcome for bein there to catch it for you.

[kanyeknowsbest]

i did forget you started the initial push against him though. my town read on you didnt need reaffirming but its nice to have.

[Tammy]

Um yeah, I'm not voting for kanye.

[Nautilius]

kanye's play on D4 hardly clears him.

I'm aware it doesn't clear him, but why does it make him scum?

PoE. And there's nothing to show you're town either.

If we're playing the POE game, I want 3 other names that are scum as well.

- You keep pushing Titus who is town

I pushed a lot of townies who were town this game. Town push town because said town do scummy things; that in and of itself isn't enough for good confidence in a scumflip.

[Nautilius]

Every night since then I've gotten some variation of "I have nothing to say."

I don't like this though.

[Messiah Complex]

no no no no no no no

one sign of weakness shouldn't translate into "everybody lynch kanye"

Um yeah, I'm not voting for kanye.

This is where we stand with Kanye as well. This is a bad push on him and you all should see that.

[Nautilius]

K I just clarified. My motivate was counted, which means I was roleblocked.

X-Shots are consumed when roleblocked? Is that typical Faraday fare?
Also, I get paranoid when people are like "let me ask a question of the mod" then get a response in like 3 minutes. Why didn't you claim you motivated me before? Why didn't you look for confirmation on that before?

Theory: he claimed N1 to Tammy and realized not having the coin later would be a scum claim. Tammy, did this happen?

I guess this is what had to have happened.

Town I feel good about: Benmage

Why?

[kanyeknowsbest]

K I just clarified. My motivate was counted, which means I was roleblocked.

X-Shots are consumed when roleblocked? Is that typical Faraday fare?
Also, I get paranoid when people are like "let me ask a question of the mod" then get a response in like 3 minutes. Why didn't you claim you motivated me before? Why didn't you look for confirmation on that before?

huh this is actually specifically in contrast to the way that titus' roleblock worked.

[ooba]

Sigh... You guys made me claim when I asked you to just trust me... Fuck... I'm so angry at this right now!! (myself mostly because I should have played this better and not had to claim)

I was able to use my super today because certain conditions got activated. I'll mulled saving it for tomorrow for the most part of the day because I had TA as the scum who was early on the quadz wagon - plus quadz unvote on D5 was *really* bad. Closer to deadline - when I reread Quadz again - it made me doubt my read. And sanity prevailed since I really didnt know if was going to be alive tomorrow to use the super.

Rather than waste the shot at TA, I thought somebody else on the Quadz early wagon would be good. It was a toss up between kanye and Cephrir and I went with Cephrir because I noticed kanye pushing him only after it was decided Quadz was a D4 or D5 lynch.

Claim: 1-shot investigate on kanye. Result: Guilty

My initial gut scum partner call out was Benmage and Cephrir - but on further reading I'm pretty sure Benmage was a bad call and I don't think it's Cephrir too (I would have preferred it if he had voted though) - so I really don't know who's scum with kanye - but kanye is scum.

[Cephrir]

ceph the hinting i did that i could enable you somehow was a lie to give you a reason to keep me around if scum, btw. at this point im fairly certain i misplayed my role by breaking anonymity w. you, but i wanted to build camaraderie and trust w. u and then d3 and 4 happened.

So you played your role exactly the way you would if you were scum? K.

?

if i were scum i wouldnt have fence sat you so hard and have had a concrete plan on what to do with you from the start, which is p much the opposite of what happened?

I was going to respond to this but now I don't need to! Hooray!

I'm quite interested in the exact wording of the ability that allows this interaction on his side, because of reasons.

its pretty bare and devoid of flavor except for the actual ability name. i can send your character a 500 word message if he is in the game. does that answer your q?

This is both the answer I expected and the wrong answer! This wasn't enough to make you scum on its own though.

VOTE: kanye

[Garruk Relentless]

[X-Shots are consumed when roleblocked? Is that typical Faraday fare?
Also, I get paranoid when people are like "let me ask a question of the mod" then get a response in like 3 minutes. Why didn't you claim you motivated me before? Why didn't you look for confirmation on that before?

I'm asking about the charges. At the very least, I was uninformed that I had any charges left.

I didn't claim targeting you yesterday because it didn't seem relevant? I'd already said I was using my skill that night. Plus that whole "Nacho gladiated Goats" thing.

If I'm out of charges, I suspect I was redirected onto motivating scum...

[kanyeknowsbest]

Sigh... You guys made me claim when I asked you to just trust me... Fuck... I'm so angry at this right now!! (myself mostly because I should have played this better and not had to claim)

I was able to use my super today because certain conditions got activated. I'll mulled saving it for tomorrow for the most part of the day because I had TA as the scum who was early on the quadz wagon - plus quadz unvote on D5 was *really* bad. Closer to deadline - when I reread Quadz again - it made me doubt my read. And sanity prevailed since I really didnt know if was going to be alive tomorrow to use the super.

Rather than waste the shot at TA, I thought somebody else on the Quadz early wagon would be good. It was a toss up between kanye and Cephrir and I went with Cephrir because I noticed kanye pushing him only after it was decided Quadz was a D4 or D5 lynch.

Claim: 1-shot investigate on kanye. Result: Guilty

My initial gut scum partner call out was Benmage and Cephrir - but on further reading I'm pretty sure Benmage was a bad call and I don't think it's Cephrir too (I would have preferred it if he had voted though) - so I really don't know who's scum with kanye - but kanye is scum.

did you attempt to use this on the night titus roleblocked.

[kanyeknowsbest]

oh nm youre gambitting. fuck off