Mini 1537: ATTACK ON TITAN (Game Over!)


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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:15 am

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Also 2004 doesn't look like a scumslip.
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:15 am

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mastin's assertion that pie would have reversed his read on him is strange, though. Mastin, explain.
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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:16 am

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I don't disbelieve that, I just disbelieve that pasch wouldn't have proactively investigated these avenues himself.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:16 am

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In post 2035, Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:Why do ye believe pie was killed for his reads, over something like him being a consensus town read that was virtually impossible to lynch?
Wouldn't expect a kill to be more for maintaining mislynch options than removing pressure at this point.
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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:17 am

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re:
In post 2049, BROseidon wrote:I asked the mod about whether role blocks consume shots, and she said that they do. Pasch's neighborize failure checks out if there's a scum RB.
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:18 am

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you don't think a one-shot neighborizer with one-shot commute wouldn't feel weird saying "I already used up my one-shot ability?"
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:19 am

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In the context of it being in response to you asking for results, no.
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:30 am

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Ehhhh, that would be really odd to me. Even if he knew his neighboring was consumed, the maneuver gear would be foremost on his mind, as he would have had to make a decision about it last night. It seems strange to me to ignore its existence.

Anyway, I still don't believe it's reasonable that pasch was roleblocked N1, but you were not roleblocked N2.

In any case, I'm far more confident that mastin is scum, since the only way he could be town is if the pirate were scum, and that seems very unlikely to me.
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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:37 am

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In post 2057, Kagami wrote:In any case, I'm far more confident that mastin is scum,
since the only way he could be town is if the pirate were scum, and that seems very unlikely to me.
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:37 am

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Explain that.
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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:38 am

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The scum must have a weak fake-claim. I don't think pitoli just told them what "weak" meant.
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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:41 am

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I still don't follow.
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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:45 am

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Pitoli appeared day 1 during the weak discussion to point out that scum had fake-claims. This strongly suggests to me that scum were made aware of "weak"ness through such a fake-claim, and therefore at least one of the scum fake-claims is weak. The weak claimants are myself, bert, mastin, and the pirate. Bert has flipped town, and I think the pirate is town too, which has basically solidified my mastin position.
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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:47 am

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Scum could have not used their fakeclaims, or modified them. I've done that before as scum.
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:48 am

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In post 2051, BROseidon wrote:mastin's assertion that pie would have reversed his read on him is strange, though. Mastin, explain.
I'm just reasonably certain he would have. Especially if I had the opportunity to respond to his points against me. Basically, he would have realized that he was confirmation biasing me. And that I was town and that Kaze wasn't.
In post 2060, Kagami wrote:The scum must have a weak fake-claim. I don't think pitoli just told them what "weak" meant.
Or the mod gave it to them and they didn't use it, or the mod didn't think it was necessary, or they do and it's someone else. Like, say, you.
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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:50 am

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ok, that's possible; didn't really consider that.

p-edit: Yes, from others' perspective it's not the most compelling thing in the world, which is why I wouldn't have brought it up had bro not specifically asked.
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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:04 am

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just read back over the beginning of the game, falcon just ignored the whole weak thing. Didn't question bert on what it meant or chime in at all. Not sure what that means.
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:05 am

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In post 2064, mastin2 wrote:
In post 2051, BROseidon wrote:mastin's assertion that pie would have reversed his read on him is strange, though. Mastin, explain.
I'm just reasonably certain he would have. Especially if I had the opportunity to respond to his points against me. Basically, he would have realized that he was confirmation biasing me. And that I was town and that Kaze wasn't.
"If he were here he'd change his mind because I'd make him."

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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:28 am

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why didn't the pirate respond to whatever kthnx asked last night?
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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:43 am

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^I don't understand
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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:47 am

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In post 2033, Kthxbye wrote:RBD: What's the word man...err...Capt man? You not wanting to say anything? My vote's a-waitin on ye Sir...Captain...Sir....
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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:29 pm

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All of this "feel like" garbage from Kagami and Kaze doesn't make the rest of you want to lynch them? Really? All of this "feeling" and "gut reads" is just a way to push your agenda without ever being called upon to defend it. Town have reasons for their ideas. Town are actually trying to find the right targets. Scum go out of their way to avoid being called to task for their pushes.

I bet that Pie is dead because she was the most vocal person person who was serious about lynching Kaze. That was where we should have lynched from the start. That's the scum in the neighborhood. And then Kagami goes for constantly protecting him.

Oh, and "slips". Slips are almost always bullshit.
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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:31 pm

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Hmm....I may have been wrong about my town read of RBD....

He posted after my post and mentioned nothing about it. If he is unaware of something, then either I was RB'ed or scum can't be targeted at night by me....hmmmm....
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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:34 pm

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Neither me skipper or I have a clue what 2033 meant, so we be ignoring it.
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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:13 pm

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you should have more than just a clue...assuming I understand what I did last night
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