Tales of You (Endgame)

[Kagura]

DV, your response is taking longer than I hoped it would

[orcinus_theoriginal]

yawwwnnnn

i love waking up in the morning to watch people bond in this game

[The Fox and the Hound]

Do you think you'd have the balls as scum to scumread me a second time in a row?

PEdit: It might be.

Obviously.
Guess you have to look at your play this game and tell me if it makes sense for me not to be townreading you.
What do you think?

I've been pretty town this game (I know there are times when I'm town and it doesn't show so well but this is not one of those times), so the only way I see you not seeing it is if you're scum going for the big move of NOT townreading DV!!! I mean it'd be all nice looking and rebellious because why not go for the easy option of townreading me like you always do as scum? But the big ??? is that I'm pretty sure as town you'd be townreading me, so what's the deal?

Unless this is all some ploy to make me ~react~ in which case I don't think it's very funny?

PEdit: Orci, I think you might have the wrong head.

PEdit: Ok?

[Kagura]

yawwwnnnn

i love waking up in the morning to watch people bond in this game

please be better

[Kagura]

that I'm pretty sure as town you'd be townreading me, so what's the deal?

Why?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

yawwwnnnn

i love waking up in the morning to watch people bond in this game

please be better

???

[The Fox and the Hound]

that I'm pretty sure as town you'd be townreading me, so what's the deal?

Why?

Because I'm town and you're you and even though this sounds incredibly and awfully sappy, usually you're the one to townread me when no one else does!

[Kagura]

yawwwnnnn

i love waking up in the morning to watch people bond in this game

please be better

???

do more, stop being lazy
didn't you townread ffery in vesperia as well?

[The Fox and the Hound]

And the last time I felt I was town and you didn't you were scum so....

[Kagura]

that I'm pretty sure as town you'd be townreading me, so what's the deal?

Why?

Because I'm town and you're you and even though this sounds incredibly and awfully sappy, usually you're the one to townread me when no one else does!

the why was referring more to what have you done that is town

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i did townread fery in vesperia

are you getting at something

[Kagura]

i did townread fery in vesperia

are you getting at something

i was just making sure i wasn't getting the games mixed up!
why is your townread on ffery so strong here?

[Kagura]

back up in the shit, reading

-b

[orcinus_theoriginal]

page 29

[Kagura]

what about page 29?

[Kagura]

i mean you obviously know what i'm doing here is asking you to expand on your full thought process for ffery-town and how strongly you feel about things so that i can see her reaction, right?

[Breakfast With Sandy]

page 29 looks more like reasons to be paranoid of me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i mean you obviously know what i'm doing here is asking you to expand on your full thought process for ffery-town and how strongly you feel about things so that i can see her reaction, right?

yeah except i don't really want to explain my full thought process for fery-town yet

which is why i linked you to the part where i said it was a discussion that i'll save until later

[Kagura]

WHY MASTIN IS POSSIBLY NOT SCUM (AND ALSO IN THIS POST NACHO ENGAGES MASTIN SO PEOPLE WON'T JUST TELL HIM HE'S BEING MANIPULATED)

1) I think SSK aggressive push towards getting an RVS wagon on Broderick was pretty town for typical chucklefuckery reasons. Would SSK be comfortable taking the lead as scum in a hydra with Mastin? Nah, probably not.

Nah. As scum, I sheep them both and keep on their good sides.

I think you know I'm on guard for that by now: why wouldn't you subvert your meta and make a push on either Tammy or I?

If Nacho says Tammy's town, I won't trust him thanks to this.

Do you really think Tammy is able to manipulate me this easily?

2)

(You'd be surprised how much wavering is going on. Not dissonance. All just me. )

I generally find erratic weird bouncing back and forth more town than static reads, static behavior. This in particular strikes me as town because Mastin doesn't give a fuck about forming processes for why he's going back and forth, makes it feel more natural.

3)

(Side-note, but one advantage of being in a Cabd game is that nobody's going to be able to figure out my role from the softclaims I've done. They may think they have. They're sure to have speculation in mind, and have plenty of ideas. But they'll never correctly figure it out. And yet when I pull the pieces together for a fullclaim, everyone will go, "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! That makes total sense now!")

I think that general behavior around softclaim seems town. Mastin's capable of coming up with an intensely complicated fakeclaim/leaving a bunch of strange mastin crumbs then bullshitting the final role as a result, but not only is doing that unnecessary since he's been focused more on manipulating people and interactions between people as opposed to any crazy role faking business.

4)

Thus, why I believe that we have four scum, since that's the cutoff point.

Pretty easy way to go about calling him town is his townslip! I don't think that mastin is so incredibly devious that he created a fake role, started crumbing it very, very early, crumbed a couple real aspects of the role in there and planned to townslip this from the very beginning. I can't see him behaving ahead of time very "sneakily" about there being 4 scum, seeing his vote crossed out in the votecount, and THEN dropping said townslip. Creating something like that, in addition to interactions manipulations, in addition to everything else... in order for him to be scum, there's a very complicated and convoluted thought process happening and i don't really buy it at this point.

[Kagura]

i mean you obviously know what i'm doing here is asking you to expand on your full thought process for ffery-town and how strongly you feel about things so that i can see her reaction, right?

yeah except i don't really want to explain my full thought process for fery-town yet

which is why i linked you to the part where i said it was a discussion that i'll save until later

Vote: Fox and the Hound

[Titan]

Are those you haven't mentioned null then Titan? Or lean scum?

Need more to go on for those I didn't mention.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Do ye think
That I be town?
Please let it be so, Nacho
Don't let me down

-Nati

[Red Gyarados]

(Us, Titan, Kagura, MastinSSK)
(Beliffery, CF, RBD)

(Town)
(Not full town yet)

[Titan]

Also, I would like to know why a player who has deliberately disengaged from any interaction is a town lean.

Because if it's meta to troll the game and deliberately do nothing of any value, I would suggest that's an easy meta to fake.

I didn't say that I thought he was leaning town because it's his meta to troll. And sure, this is his typical play style; he has a sense of fakeness when he's scum though. (Although I was his partner when I've seen him as scum, so!)

He doesn't feel orchestrated so far. Obviously, I need more to go on to feel better about it, but I still lean town there.

[The Fox and the Hound]

that I'm pretty sure as town you'd be townreading me, so what's the deal?

Why?

Because I'm town and you're you and even though this sounds incredibly and awfully sappy, usually you're the one to townread me when no one else does!

the why was referring more to what have you done that is town

I don't see how I could've made 592 as scum. I would have had to fake my thoughts on Mastin to look like I'd posted them in a hydra QT two days prior and I don't go to those kinds of lengths as scum. That was the only time I thought as I was posting that I was being really town, but I think I've been quite town and unlike scum-me throughout as I've mentioned before, and Tammy's townread in particular makes me more confident that you would recognise this.

Nacho, if you're town, you need to stop this and show me that you are, because I'm trying to think of reasons why you're not scum here and I'm struggling.

Also, why does Mastin's claim need to be a fakeclaim?