We have never said we're obvtown. I doubt we would short of being confirmed town, though I will probably go to my grave a little perplexed that people didn't find me pretty transparent back in the good old days when I used to stay up all night playing forum mafia. I said we're town as fuck, which is more about our motivation and intentions than about our appearances.In post 967, Hadrian wrote:Buh. At first I was like yay all that thought I put into Morph was for nothing, then, buh.
I know that Pless is still really suspicious of Morph, but I've been thinking and there are a couple of things that ffery has said that I think are less likely to come from her as scum. One of them being the "town as fuck" thing, though I still think that's odd coming from either of them. They both hate when I talk about how obvtown I am in games, so it's a bit shocking to see them using that.
The execution is what it is, or was. I think my activity level, involvement and effort are going to be back to normal after I get some sleep tonight.
Anyway, for me, the concept of being town as fuck kind of crystalized in this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=34263, where we (a hydra of bulbazak, cabd and me) were being scumread in the latter part of day 1 and much of day 2 because we came to a different conclusion from some other town players about an L-1 PR claim. We were called scum because our vote was characterized as "scum motivated". I refuted it very flatly simply because we were town and therefore any decision we made with any deliberation at all was necessarily town motivated whether other town agreed or not.
That's kinda how I feel about this game. We have this role. We're living with it. We're trying to find scum with it and we're trying to hurt scum with it. and whether our decisions make sense to someone who doesn't have this role or not, we know that we're making our decisions in an effort to further a town win.
Though as I said before ffery doesn't really speak in her tone when she hydras with cabd and it's hard to tell them apart. A couple times I thought cabd was intentionally posting and saying it was ffery to get around her scum tell of hiding behind cabd when they hydra being a thing. And in the respect of that hydra doing rather well together in scum games, I can see being in a hydra with cabd boosting some of her confidence where she might sound a bit more arrogant than I would typically expect of her.
I'm pretty sure you called me out for arrogance in vesperia. I'm actually a pretty arrogant player in general, but I try to keep it in check, mostly because it's unearned arrogance in this milieu, and likely to stay that way for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately my arrogance is easily punctured and I sometimes go through phases of oh my god I suck during games that aren't going well.
Let's see, who is this game not going well for atm? oh right.
I don't remember why I said that about uncertainty, but it was in reference to your read on us. And it was probably inaccurate both because you apparently still were uncertain at the start of day 3 (and beyond) and becausee I was mis-attributing posts to your other head. Hopefully I'm getting better at figuring out who posts what.So I don't know and I don't think they're town as fuck though. And, it pings me that it pings her about a lack of uncertainty? She's certainly seen me in games being very certain about someone both town and scum reads. And I wouldn't actually consider me certain of anything this game. I mean I vote parked kdub for the entirety of yesterday based on a gut suspicion and didn't push it. And I typically don't characterize games driving me insane when I feel like I have a good pulse on who the scum and town are, unless people are driving me insane.