I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad. I'm going to do what I can, I just can't deal with this game.In post 7559, CarbonFiber wrote:@ Tammy, I didn't read the Gundam Seed game because I was lazy. I don't think my play in this game has been good by any stretch of the imagination. I felt tuned out of this game and at the point of just giving up. I partly gave up playing this game because no matter what, it is just not getting any better. I am really, really sad to see you discouraged from playing this game, more so because I know I contributed to it, not just at the beginning of D1 but by just being prickly and irritated for most of the game. Everything I've tried this game ended up failing massively. I tried testing PV to see if anything comes out, and it just resulted in more paranoia everywhere. I tried to develop reactions from people after you said you were going to head out for your graduation thing but that turned out badly as well.
I genuinely didn't feel like putting effort into this game anymore but if you really think I can help make more sense of this game by giving you my thoughts on DV's meta, I'll do it.
I think that my reads list in which I think everyone is some sort of scum is indicative that I don't even know if you are wrong on them. I feel like you are, but I don't know. You post a post of theirs that isn't even inflammatory or anything but yet overlook how 90% of P5's posts to me and about me are inflammatory and full of rhetoric. He literally used that because I don't have a record of getting lynched a lot as scum, ignoring the context of everything, as reason I should be lynched in this game. Yet your lockstep group is kissing his ass.In post 7573, CarbonFiber wrote:I'm not really sure what to say to that.
Can you explain where I am going wrong on them?
This wasIn post 7577, Titan wrote:I think that my reads list in which I think everyone is some sort of scum is indicative that I don't even know if you are wrong on them. I feel like you are, but I don't know. You post a post of theirs that isn't even inflammatory or anything but yet overlook how 90% of P5's posts to me and about me are inflammatory and full of rhetoric. He literally used that because I don't have a record of getting lynched a lot as scum, ignoring the context of everything, as reason I should be lynched in this game. Yet your lockstep group is kissing his ass.In post 7573, CarbonFiber wrote:I'm not really sure what to say to that.
Can you explain where I am going wrong on them?
So, for me I see a mental disconnect, I can't see where you're coming from, and it looks like rhetoric from you to me.
You might be town, they might be scum, but you're not convincing me. And I really just don't care enough about this game anymore to go back through and analyze it.
lolllllllllllllllllllllIn post 7587, BROseidon wrote:Dear Scum,
This game is stalling out, but you don't seem to be actually trying to win, instead hoping for town to collapse on itself. Please stop doing that and bus, as you're just wasting our time. I'm not gonna let this town collapse on itself, and your lack of action anywhere indicates that this is what you're counting on.
Best,
BROseidon
In post 7575, Yulia Jue wrote:Votecount 4-7
With 11 players alive, it will take 6 votes to lynch or no lynch.
Red Gyarados (1): Breakfast With Stalin
Penguin_Alien (1): magenta_thegreat
magenta_thegreat (1): AngryPidgeon
CarbonFiber (2): Penguin_Alien, The Fox and the Hound
Titan (1): Red Gyarados
The Fox and the Hound (2): CarbonFiber, Just Sheep Us,
Nachomamma8 (2): Titan, PeregrineV
Not Voting (1): Nachomamma8
Mod Note: None at the moment
Deadline is set at 12 days: (expired on 2014-05-25 04:32:54)
Go with Fox then considering you are the only one voting Magenta.In post 7519, AngryPidgeon wrote:Im just sort of fading out again.
@BRO: Anyone in that list other than Penguin is fine with me I guess. I lean town on Fox and RG a little but Im probably wrong about one of them.
VOTE: magenta
You know why I was scumreading Mastin as hard? Because a lot of his posts didn't make sense. It is obvious now and I should have seen it from a town POV but look at some of the posts I'll quote so you can hopefully understand why I pushed the hell out of his lynch:In post 6992, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Nacho's push on Mastin pinged my towndar hard, but you and Fox haven't said anything that's given me any insight into your alignment lately.In post 6857, CarbonFiber wrote:Beli, how are those townreads stale and not Nacho?
Lots of words, words, words, but so little that's been helpful fmpov. Nothing, actually.
In your case, I had you in my townlist at least partially due to bias; after that JerryArr game, I really, really wanted you to be town so we could auto-win, and here we are one lynch away from xylo and zero scum down. Wish fulfilment reads don't make sense this close to endgame. Not when it's going to take a miracle or a genius to bring home a town win.
This post (it is a longer post that I snipped out for the relevant part. Doesn't make any sense. Specifically, look at the part where he just agrees with Rancid without even thinking. He doesn't even know what he is agreeing with.
Basically updated reads and analysis. Nothing about it blows and it definitely made sense to Ffery and Bork. But for some reason, Rancid decided that the post "blows" and thought they'd leave it at that. They were literally trolling the game.In post 435, CarbonFiber wrote:I thinkMacis town from a re-read of the thread. I like his initial engagement with the game and the way he meta-dived FourTrouble in Post 67 while discussing the read with zMuffinman. I like his picking up on how FT is more aggressive as scum. I initially wondered why he didn't just wait for FT to make more posts but I can see the impatience from a town POV as well. Looking through how Mac discusses reads as scum, in Post 25 of Mini 1525, the first Tales game, he says thanks and puts it aside saying he will check the meta later. I also liked the actual difference he picked up regarding FT's opening tone. I usually read FT based on his openings so I think Mac is going about it in a productive way. ffery, do you agree with my assessment that Mac is playing more to his town meta. You played with him in the first Tales game and in AA:MFA when he was scum and town respectively.
My townread onRedGyaradosis solidified after looking through his towngames to see that early and easy townreads are not features of his towngame and are at worst null. The rest of his play feels very transparently town.
Town (Strong -> Weak): Titan, Red Gyarados, Lord Business, The Fox and the Hound, Mac
Spoiler:
~ F-16
And that's his response. It was like he wasn't even trying but was trying to create a narrative.In post 1078, MastinSSK wrote:I don't remember?In post 1076, CarbonFiber wrote:1) What didn't you like about my townread on Mac?
Let's go with the latter and turn this game around.In post 7512, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Yes. On RG and Fox/Hound, the former more than the latter.In post 7508, Just Sheep Us wrote:Tammy, AP, F-16, Beli:
Do we have overlap anywhere in {penguin, magenta, foxhound, RG}? There should be someone in that group that all 5 of us have overlap on, and that's who we need to lynch today.
Ffery trusted p_a and I'm sheeping that read for now due to how sure she sounded to me.
I still am bet-the-farm sure about townOrci.
Okay, well I explained this a ton of times which is why I am surprised but okay, I'll do it again like you are five.In post 7597, penguin_alien wrote:F-16, I realize that at this point whatever I do you're either going to interpret it as scummy or playing to my town meta as scum because you're convinced I'm not town here. But seeing as Tammy's freaking out and I'm getting increasingly lost, can we try resetting?
I really don't get your push on Tammy if you're town. Explain it to me like I'm an idiot, please.
And explain to me why F&H is the lynch for today. Because all I see are walls and walls, and at the end of it I have no idea who's sincere and who's spamming up the thread.
I'm kind of hitting the wall here in terms of brainpower to figure this out, and I'm stressed and tired. Throw me a bone here.
