anyone can revote if they like i just caught up and lets say if SSK flips scum, the game will be solved. (99% sure i can poe it to where we can have lynches lined up to solve it)
fake claiming masons is a really risky play as scum cause if one person gets lynch the other's outed immediately. plus if there are actual masons then the fake claim is outed and gets 2 scum.
im going to give this game about 24-48 hr more of dicsussion before me/pants will vote/hammer SSK. My mind is working overdrive now. I was at work thinking about this game and feel like I nearly solved it.
In post 1006, ika wrote:anyone can revote if they like i just caught up and lets say if SSK flips scum, the game will be solved. (99% sure i can poe it to where we can have lynches lined up to solve it)
Jingle- Always scum. Fucking always.
Antihero- His rage reads as genuine, and the wagon on him never had good reasons. Further, His snork towncase was well reasoned and convincing. Mostly, he has no motivation to poke and prod the way he does as scum.
Snork- Antihero said it well. No need to rehash old posts.
DP- I can see the motivation behind his posts on D1. His push on Reinoe sounds genuine. He's encouraging discussion. His mason claim makes sense. I think he got caught up in IKA's master plan on D2 (which was bad, BTW) but I definitely see what he was trying to do.
Town by association:
IKA- I honestly don't like his play. I'd vote the shit out of him if he wasn't claimed masons with someone who is town.
Null-Town:
Bubba- Bubba's a tough read to me, because his logic doesn't make sense. He feels the same as he did in Open 535, which makes me lean town. He doesn't seem to be trying to manipulate the thread, and he reads as genuine.
Null:
B_E- I have no idea what his alignment is. He could probably replace GM in my scumteam without issue, but I don't have anything that said town or scum to me.
Needs to go drinking with me:
Guyett- I'm not sure I can read Guyett. I've played with him as scum a couple times, and confbiased into a loss once while lynching him based on the slot he replaced into the other time. Snork, I need you to deal with this shit.
In post 106, goodmorning wrote:But it does beg the question: if you were so concerned about it then why'd you ask me to vote him?
And also bubba's question, if you please.
What do you mean?
I wanted Pants to notice that I'd asked a question, answer it, and answer yours too.
In post 218, Titus wrote:GM, glad you love me but take that out of play. You've replaced into a scumslot of mine previously and know what I can do. Why so happy when I just basically said you would be useful if town?
Haha, I don't often get called useful. Indeed, I might go so far as to say that occasionally I can be quite useless. Like those times I TvT tunneled into the ground, or those times I fucked up in LyLo.
As for knowing what you can do: Of course. But thus far you're making a lot of sense to me and I'd like to not scumread Town-you for the fifteenth time. So I'm gonna chill out a bit and ignore my gut.
In post 227, Titus wrote:If you're town, then ika and Grey Ice look bad for seeking an early hammer on town and are probably scum.
I'm not sure I see Grey sticking his neck out so far as Scum.
Then again, the rest of his play this game's been a bit lynchworthy, so...
WTF SSK
WTF
Particularly the middle seems like a big ball of "I'm nonthreatening" and "I'm not voting a scumread because I don't want to vote that player". Both of these are inherently scummy IMO. If Titus is scum, this looks a lot like GM saying I don't want to vote my partner.
I liked where the ISO's were going (not sure I could agree with them), but they petered off into discussion about Anti's claim and more empty posting much too quickly.
I could be wrong here, but I think it's the most likely.
Needs a rope:
Titus-
Spoiler: Titus is Scum!
In post 182, Titus wrote:I agree with Pants. Hammer postponed until after thorough reading which is after work meeting.
These two are not from the same mindset. The first is fine with a hammer. The second is not.
In post 272, Titus wrote:R, with that piss poor hammer you think that all scum were on your wagon.
SSK hammered as soon as the ika counterwagon picked up steam. There's two explanations for this. The first one which SSK should have claimed with his post if town (and I'm withholding to see if he says it). The second is that SSK is scum with ika and came out of the woodwork to ensure a mislynch and give ika the opportunity to talk himself out of this.
Setting up IKA for SSK's scummy behavior. Making assumptions about SSK's motivation. Tying SSK and IKA together. She also never returned to this 'motivation SSK could claim' and instead tunnel visioned on IKA, ignoring SSK for the entirety of the next day.
In post 281, Titus wrote:Ok, a reread is in order. If scum killed GreyICE, there must have been a reason for it.
The only names I see relevant in checking GreyICE's ISO are Bubba, Burning and Antihero. It's quite a small ISO which works well to send a message, I guess... but what. Seeing interactions with Grey would be more helpful, but that means a reread with the assumption Grey was town.
Ika/SSK are probably scum and this kill is an excellent kill to divert suspicion. But wifom, it's an excellent kill to frame them too. I want to see ika's reaction while I focus on my reread.
VOTE: ika
"Analysis. My Analysis is Worthless! Vote: Not the player I'm suspicious of who just quickhammered!"
In post 290, Titus wrote:It's quite possible a good chunk were on the wagon. However, it is obvious that the scumteam that Reinoe was putting forth was wrong.
That being said Pants, I was looking for a damn good reason for ignoring obvscum behavior and doing what I want isn't it.
This is seeming like the twilight zone game. Y'all are fixated on the cheerleaders while the Gorilla just wanders around in the middle of everything.
VOTE: ika
That last second hammer looked like it was to protect ika. SSK might have drawn short straw to hammer but I want to crack ika today to get certain as to his alignment.
Really, this is getting tedious. I love the fact that you reference the Gorilla (SSK) and still don't vote for him.
In post 412, Titus wrote:God damn it... Site ate my post. I will try again tomorrow
but for ika 211 and 218 are far from fucking passive and you know it. I just am trying to break my death tunnel habit but you make it so fucking hard. I will not tunnel...
My name is Titus and I am a member of Tunnelers Anonymous. I have gone 0 games without tunneling as town....
The last sentence is incredibly manipulative. "Ignore my tunneling because I tunnel as town." You tunnel as both alignments, your defense is null as fuck.
In post 436, Titus wrote:Substance while I didn't define it like a five year old becausse I suppose you have a dictionary means anything that would logically help determine alignment. That definition doesn't change.
Ika, don't act like you never voted on a gambit. BE should have unvoted but the site was sucking. Thst being said, he does need to explain why Pants and Snork is TvT in yhe next post.
Goodmorning, please do something other than buddy me.
Goodmorning stop buddying me. I'm not going to scumread you for it, but stop doing it. Seriously, where is the paranoia? Where is the town suspicion? Why do you just dismiss GM here? It's posts like this that make me think Titus and GM are a scumteam.
In post 935, Antihero wrote:i'm playing with a bunch of people who should know me pretty well, but then cram their heads up their asses and act like they don't know me at all.
This is precisely how I feel about Jingle's read on me. He has Geology trip and Upick - Suicide bomber and still gets it wrong...why?
First, I was semi right. We've played a couple of marathons together. Second, how the fuck should I know you well enough to meta read you off of a game where I confbiased my way to a loss with you scum and a game where I replaced into scum after you replaced into conftown. This seriously needs the rope.
Yes that's right... I'm just not feeling it. You know you get that feeling when it seems too good to be true?
Like if SSK had a investigative guilty on him sure but this wagon has built up pretty easily and it just feels wrong..... this is a weird feeling for me :/
I think a lot about meteors. The purity of them. Boom! The end. Start again. The world made clean for the new man to rebuild.
Also Jingly and snorks I prob won't be getting hella drunk for the next 3 weeks... maybe a little tipsy. There is a chance I might be a bit drunk on friday though
I think a lot about meteors. The purity of them. Boom! The end. Start again. The world made clean for the new man to rebuild.
In post 1006, ika wrote:anyone can revote if they like i just caught up and lets say if SSK flips scum, the game will be solved. (99% sure i can poe it to where we can have lynches lined up to solve it)
He shouldn't but what if SSK flips town?
still can be solved, i have sevral plans intact.
Titus, whats your updated read list, do both on the premisis that SSK is town and SSK is scum.
serious question: What does everyone think about doing a titus lynch? and titus, you have no say in this atm. You can object all you like but im seriously considering this as an idea and if your town and you trust me you will go along with it.
if SSK is so "obvious" why not see who is associated while we got time?
I think jingles scum team makes sense, I was thinking a very similar team based upon whether or not Titus was scum.
@ Guy: this is the second big push, the first after the mason claim was on Shroomish/Jingle. So while the push onto SSK is quick, it isn't the only idea thats been attempted.
In post 1016, Guyett wrote:Also Jingly and snorks I prob won't be getting hella drunk for the next 3 weeks... maybe a little tipsy. There is a chance I might be a bit drunk on friday though
On a non game related note, sthar8 wants to talk to you about swapping council patches. Some of the kids want to start collecting and Irish ones would be hella cool.
In post 1016, Guyett wrote:Also Jingly and snorks I prob won't be getting hella drunk for the next 3 weeks... maybe a little tipsy. There is a chance I might be a bit drunk on friday though
On a non game related note, sthar8 wants to talk to you about swapping council patches. Some of the kids want to start collecting and Irish ones would be hella cool.
remind me at the end of June, I'll be home then
I think a lot about meteors. The purity of them. Boom! The end. Start again. The world made clean for the new man to rebuild.
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