Newbie 1515: Old-Timey Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Thesp]

Also, might as well:
VOTE: Boonskiies

[Bins]

When the day started, Honey's slight uncertainty about Boon stood out to me.

Also, Honey being scum falls in line with the NK.

I definitely don't think Thesp is scum. I believe his claim.
I also want to believe Brian's.

[Boonskiies]

Good enough for me.

I'm the cop, and I investigated TheGottemer on N1, and Bins on N2. Bins is innocent.

If Boonskiies flips Roleblocker, then Brian Skiies is necessarily the Doctor, and Honey Bee is

necessarily

the Mafia Goon. If Boonskiies flips Goon, Brian Skiies could be lying, but I'm likelier to think it's Honey bee (but not sure, I'd need to re-read). In any case, Bins is confirmed to be innocent.

WAAAAIIIIITTTT!!!!!! IF YOU WERE COP WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE COUNTER CLAIMED YESTERDAY!!!

I claimed Tracker yesterday, which means if you were really the cop, a tracker would not be in the game, meaning my track on Jake was obviously fake. You could have saved Jake, yet you instead voted him when you knew I was lying?

SLIPPED UP YO!!!!!


VOTE: Thesp

[Boonskiies]

@Brian - you're my only hope of town winning. Thesp is confirmed scum now. I had a feeling you were doctor, Brian. But I didn't want to out you. Please, think about this rationally. If he really is cop, there is no reason he wouldn't have claimed yesterDay.

He voted for the knowingly false claimed guilty Jake

.

[Thesp]

Good enough for me.

I'm the cop, and I investigated TheGottemer on N1, and Bins on N2. Bins is innocent.

If Boonskiies flips Roleblocker, then Brian Skiies is necessarily the Doctor, and Honey Bee is

necessarily

the Mafia Goon. If Boonskiies flips Goon, Brian Skiies could be lying, but I'm likelier to think it's Honey bee (but not sure, I'd need to re-read). In any case, Bins is confirmed to be innocent.

WAAAAIIIIITTTT!!!!!! IF YOU WERE COP WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE COUNTER CLAIMED YESTERDAY!!!

I claimed Tracker yesterday, which means if you were really the cop, a tracker would not be in the game, meaning my track on Jake was obviously fake. You could have saved Jake, yet you instead voted him when you knew I was lying?

SLIPPED UP YO!!!!!


VOTE: Thesp

You were trying to out me. I didn't have a guilty result, and wanted to find your partner first. (I was very happy to make a 1-for-1 trade if I could stay underground.) Why

would

I have counter-claimed yesterday?

As a reminder as to the appropriate policy here.

[Thesp]

Also, Boonskiies, you think there's no reason for me to have stayed silent yesterday, but in your story, claiming Tracker

with a guilty

when you're "actually" a cop makes more sense?

In what god damn universe would Cop fake claim Tracker on Day 2?

[Boonskiies]

I'm VT.
I'm okay with a mass-claim. I'm definitely okay with our PR out-ing himself if it's helpful.
But I don't see why it's necessary unless our cop (if we have one) has info.

Boon is scum.

In what god damn universe would Cop fake claim Tracker on Day 2?

I completely explained this in my 2nd post of the day....

I WAS THE ONLY ONE TO KNOW THE SETUP!!!!! I am the cop and I got role blocked, meaning I was the only one who KNEW for a fact tracker was a safe claim. Even the scum team wouldn't have been able to know that, because they were uncertain if it was JK/MRB/1SBP setup or MRP/COP/DOC setup.

[Boonskiies]

READ

Alright, let me go on a record and say my exact reasoning for all of my play yesterDay. By the way,

WE ARE IN LYLO SITUATION

I am actually the Town Cop.

Night 1, I investigated Thesp and got a No Result, which means I was role blocked. This made it so I was the only one to know what the setup in the game was, making a tracker claim completely irrefutable. I initially did expect Jake as scum, and him reacting made me super suspicious of him. It wasn't until nearing the end did I figure out he actually was town, and by then, if I had retracted my claim, I surely would have been lynched that day. Me being a PR, thought it best that I stay alive over him as I was surely not going to get NK'd due to suspicion. Now, the scum team obviously knew I was lying about being tracker, but they couldn't out me because it would give away that the only way they could know was because one of them is a Mafia Roleblocker. I know there's a doctor out there.

Now...Scum was probably happy that a town member was doing work for them. Who wouldn't go along with a claimed guilty? That is why I believe that there is scum on the Jake wagon. I originally believed it to be Gottemer and Thesp, which is why last night I investigated Gottemer. I did not see him dying in the night tonight...I honestly expected a Brian death.

All this being said, after the thread, I actually believe Bins is the scummiest. I hadn't even suspected her until night phase. I'm going to go on record to saying she is the roleblocker, as she knew that I wasn't the tracker, and I was just being stupid townie. I didn't get role blocked because of it. I'll do some ISO quote's on her in my next post.

As for the second scum member, I am leaning towards Thesp as I honestly did believe either Jake or Thesp was scum. However...I don't believe Thesp would have killed Gottemer, and I believe that scum is someone newer. Gottemer dying wasn't the best move, as he was an easier wagon than Honey Bee and Brian. That being said...I don't have any suspicions on Honey Bee, but after rereading the thread I do believe Brian to be town. So Honey Bee/Thesp are my reads.

If we don't myslynch toDay, I believe this is certain to be a town win.

[Thesp]

I'm VT.
I'm okay with a mass-claim. I'm definitely okay with our PR out-ing himself if it's helpful.
But I don't see why it's necessary unless our cop (if we have one) has info.

Boon is scum.

In what god damn universe would Cop fake claim Tracker on Day 2?

I completely explained this in my 2nd post of the day....

I WAS THE ONLY ONE TO KNOW THE SETUP!!!!! I am the cop and I got role blocked, meaning I was the only one who KNEW for a fact tracker was a safe claim. Even the scum team wouldn't have been able to know that, because they were uncertain if it was JK/MRB/1SBP setup or MRP/COP/DOC setup.

You missed the part where it would be somehow appropriate to claim a guilty result on a townie.

[Boonskiies]

Also, Boonskiies, you think there's no reason for me to have stayed silent yesterday, but in your story, claiming Tracker

with a guilty

when you're "actually" a cop makes more sense?

Yes, I made a town on town sacrifice. I'm a selfish player. I was able to figure out the scum team through it. Reactions, yo. And I got them. It's one reason Jake was so mad. He knew I was town doing it.

I claimed tracker and said i had a guilty on Jake. There was no reason for you to believe me, Thesp. NO REASON AT ALL. If you really were the cop, you wouldn't have

VOTED JAKE

. You being town cop, you knew it wasn't a real claim, yet you

VOTED JAKE

. Exactly why you are counterclaiming me now; it's the last shot you have. And hopefully Honey/Bins, whichever of you are ACTUALLY town, doesn't mess this up for Brian and I.

[Thesp]

Also, Boonskiies, you think there's no reason for me to have stayed silent yesterday, but in your story, claiming Tracker

with a guilty

when you're "actually" a cop makes more sense?

Yes, I made a town on town sacrifice. I'm a selfish player. I was able to figure out the scum team through it. Reactions, yo. And I got them. It's one reason Jake was so mad. He knew I was town doing it.

I claimed tracker and said i had a guilty on Jake. There was no reason for you to believe me, Thesp. NO REASON AT ALL. If you really were the cop, you wouldn't have

VOTED JAKE

. You being town cop, you knew it wasn't a real claim, yet you

VOTED JAKE

. Exactly why you are counterclaiming me now; it's the last shot you have. And hopefully Honey/Bins, whichever of you are ACTUALLY town, doesn't mess this up for Brian and I.

I agree there was no reason to believe you yesterday. I also thought it would be poor play to counter-claim you yesterday, since you were very, very clearly trying to figure out who I was. Heck, even Jake from State Farm said that I shouldn't counter-claim you:

Obviously you are trying to get the real PR to out and hopefully the real PR keeps his fucking mouth shut.

everyone vote me, nobody vote boon for risk of exposing who the PR is.

[Boonskiies]

AtE on his part. And at this point, I'd like to wait for Honey/Brian to chime in. Please...see it.

[Thesp]

AtE on his part. And at this point, I'd like to wait for Honey/Brian to chime in. Please...see it.

What.

You criticize me for saying I should have counterclaimed yesterday. But when

the guy who's being lynched yesterday

says the power role shouldn't counter claim in that instance, that's Appeal to Emotion? (In what way?) I can't even begin to know how to process that line of circular reasoning.

[Bins]

VOTE: boon


If town loses and Boon is town it's his fault.

[Boonskiies]

I AM TOWN. It's not my fault. And if you aren't scum, you just jeopardized this whole game. Honey and Brian...PLEASE think about this rationally. If she was town she wouldn't be putting me in an L-1 situation. DON'T HAMMER. We mislynch, we lose!!!

[Boonskiies]

If she was actually town, and Honey ended up being scum, then Honey could just hop on this and win the game for them. And Honey, if you are town, do not vote. Please. They are the scum team.

[Bins]

Boon if you are scum even if you are town. Lynch all liars.

Honey is your partner.

[Bins]

Brian please forgive me. maybe I'm biased against walls.



Boon why do you label me as scum cause "the night kill was a noob move."

The game hurts me so much.

[Boonskiies]

Boon if you are scum even if you are town. Lynch all liars.

Honey is your partner.

GUYS!!!!!! I'm scum even if I flip town because of a lie. LYNCH ALL LIARS!!!???

It's a MYLO situation, and she just said that.

That's the scum team...

[Bins]

Town wins if you're scum. I'm taking it.

I trust Brian to hammer your ass.

(hammer your ass)
(heheuehheuehe)

[Boonskiies]

yeah, esp since we would either have doctor or 1-shot BP

if we have 1-shot BP i think that they

should

claim actually
if we have a doctor please do not claim
that would be very very bad bad bad

One more thing: Why did you think that the hypothetical 1-shot BP should claim in this situation? All it would do is render their ability useless because scum would then be informed who

not

to shoot.

PEdit: TOWN does

NOT

win if I am scum. There is still another scum out there. And I trust Brian to be rational about this.

[Bins]

god dammit, i didn't realize brian's claim doesn't clear is butt because there can be a setup of cop, vanilla, goon.

[Boonskiies]

I got role blocked night 1. He's doctor.

[Boonskiies]

But you know that.

[Bins]

yeah, keep defending your scum partner and hope that i believe you.