Mini 1602: Game Over

[SleepyKrew]

VC 2.07

shaddowez

(3) - DeasVail, implosion, AGar

ZZZX

(2) - Malakittens, phokdapolees

phokdapolees

(1) - BipolarChemist

BipolarChemist

(1) - Aneninen

DeasVail

(1) - shaddowez

Not Voting

(3) - ZZZX, tman2nd, sthar8

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Day 2 deadline will hit in: (expired on 2014-09-13 13:15:56).

ZZZX is V/LA until the 11th.

phokdapolees has been prodded.

tman2nd has requested replacement. Tell your friends!

[BipolarChemist]

You're really scummy. Deal with it.

But I'm not, so there's that.

Okay, but we're saying stuff that you've done this game is sketchy, scummy, and highly suspicious. The snark in this post actually is pushing me to think you're town oddly enough. I don't see scum just doing that, it's just too blunt and rage inducing to other people. Or maybe I'm looking too far into one line

Shaddowez: Mostly a PoE read.

His play in regards to flames/neil is nothing beyond scum as far as I can see

. The main thing holding me back though, as silly as it may sound, is 21. Notice the similarity in style of RVS to flames, while everyone else is different. I feel scum may make more effort to do something different from a buddy, but I consider this point quite weak after some thought.

I didn't notice anything scummy in particular during my read-through

, but I haven't reviewed the most recent case on him properly and will read his own posts more deeply tomorrow.

So, is my play scummy, or did I not do anything scummy that you noticed?

...snip...

This quote is also weak:

I also feel that Shaddowez being the only townread of Flames from 152 that I could see being scum implicates him somewhat

Flames had the following people in his townlist - AGar, Elias, myself, Tammy, and Mala. AGar has been a solid townread by everyone, Tammy had already flipped, and he's not going to point to himself as scum, so that leads to him being able to make this case against me or Mala. At this point, I already have votes on me, making me the easy target.

Sheeet I actually am going to agree with where some of your logic is coming here. In the first part, DV's post makes me worried because most of his case is based on ... oh wait sorry there is no case, in fact he actually pointed out how you could be town yet is still voting you based on POE. In the second part, could I actually get a quote from you on where Flames townlist was before I elaborate?

Also, you're saying that most of the things I pointed out were jokes. Well, it will sort itself out, I suppose. Let's see whether the others consider them jokes too.
I know that I tend to fluff a lot, however, in this particular game, especially on Day2, I haven't posted the usual amount of "Aneninen-fluff" so far.

The others should consider them jokes. They were incredibly obviously jokes. I'm so confused at what points you're actually trying to make here.

There's nothing I thought was super significant apart from what's in my post.

*grumbles*

K

Why the grumbling?

Grumblegrumblegrumble. I don't like your answer but I don't think it's scummy but at the same time I wanna think it's scummy and you make me grumble <3

<_<

Why do you two feel so weird to me.

Are you referring to BPC and me? If so, it's either because BPC is scum and I'm paranoid of him, or because we're both town and paranoid of each other. I am cautiously holding off on a decision there for the time being.

DV, you ARE making me feel so damn paranoid this game, but combined with my thoughts on Elias and just general UGH on you, I'm starting to suspect the worst D:
Then this post worries me because it's something I think scum you would say to bring my guard down. Grrr.

[BipolarChemist]

And fine, Anen, I'll do a definitive reads list some time, as much as I kinda dislike it.

[BipolarChemist]

Oh yeah sorry!

VOTE: DV

[DeasVail]

Ok, pretty sure BPC is town.

[BipolarChemist]

Augggh, now you're just making me feel bad :'(

[DeasVail]

Augggh, now you're just making me feel bad :'(

Well I would probably do that as scum yeah, but here it is because I actually think it.

To anyone that wants to know the reason:

BPC's best bet as scum is probably just to buddy me and it would probably work, and he might be able to have me lynched with other people suspecting me anyway. Light suspicion thrown my way would also work with this, and is what I'd probably expect from him as scum. Here though, he starts off townreading me (which fits the expected scum-BPC strat), but is now voting for me. This doesn't make much sense from him as scum. In his mind, it would likely only encourage me to suspect him (I'm not sure he would have predicted this response from me).

The only plausible reason for him to vote me as scum, is in an effort to save his buddy Shaddowez. However, even this I find unlikely due to how conspicuous it would feel to scum, being the only two on a town wagon.

So, I think BPC is town. If he has fooled me, well done to him.

And I'm town too.

[sthar8]

phok and implosion are still alive and still the original players, right?

[SleepyKrew]

notscience replaces tman2nd.

[notscience]

Someone tldr me before I read

[Malakittens]

notscience replaces tman2nd.

This game just got more interesting.

@Notty: We lynched scum Day 1. We lost Tammy Night 2 and I think Zzzx is scum and one of BPC/DV.

[phokdapolees]

Still here, sorry, didn't realize it'd been so long

[notscience]

Phok who is scum

[phokdapolees]

Phok who is scum

chaos and BPC probably

Makes the most sense interaction-wise

[notscience]

Interaction w/ each other or the flipped scum

[phokdapolees]

Interaction w/ each other or the flipped scum

Both

Chaos's reads list is really lazily put together, going after Oso, who's been scrutinized for most of the day, and anen and tman, who would most likely be pretty easy (mis)lynches. Plus chaos has been laying low for most of the game, which he also did in my mini normal, where he was scum.
VOTE: chaos

Agar makes some good points on Oso wanting to stay clear of his partner's wagon until he saw where it went and thinking he picked up on a "cop tell" from Tammy, and looking through Riabi's iso, he conveniently avoided giving any reads throughout his first few posts, and then is overly cautious about quickhammering in his post 184. From his one post after that, he calls rack, the biggest wagon at the time, scum and only gives one townread (Agar).

Also, here's flames' one full reads list-

Townreads - AGar, Elias, shaddowez, Tammy, mala
Scumreads - rack, phok,
Everyone else - Not really sure

I have already explained my reads for rack and phok, so I don't really need to explain more. Also what is White Knighting?

As you can see, he conveniently leaves chaos and Riabi in his "not sure" category, making a flames/neil, Riabi/Oso and chaos scumteam seem like a big possibility.

[Aneninen]

Erm... I know that I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box but something is strange.

I thought I was the only one who scumread BPC. And now I've seen that both MalaKitty and Phokdapolees calls him a possible scum. Have I skimmed over something? Or have these scumreads just come out of nowhere?

[notscience]

^ oribabky tiwn

[notscience]

God loord

I can't type to save my life

[shaddowez]

BPC

- Post #152 was Flames' reads list that I was referencing.

So town, much content, wow.

Let's agree to disagree and then like five other people will agree with me and you'll be dead and I'll be right!

On the first point, you're convinced I'm scum and are showing confbias, so anything I say you're looking at purely as "How can I twist this to make him look more like scum?". It's useless arguing with you, so I'm not going to take the time to do so, and am instead going to continue trying to hunt for actual scum, which is what you should be doing as well.

For the second point, please indulge me - when I'm wrong and flip town, who will you think is scum?

So, is my play scummy, or did I not do anything scummy that you noticed?

I'm pretty sure it's been established that I don't find you incredibly scummy. You are just the least town for me right now.

I wasn't asking a generic question. I was asking about the quote I included in my post that you conveniently ignored, where you said both things in the same paragraph.

Contradictory DV is contradictory.

I've already expressed the opinion that you were the second best bet for scum. You were in the top 3 as early as 488 and undeniably second in 496, yet you only have a problem with it now that I'm voting for you.

So you're saying I'm the second best bet for scum, but not scummy, just not town, but you're voting me, not trying to find someone you actually think is scum?

Anen

- Reads list incoming at some point tonight (probably earlier rather than later, but no promises).

[notscience]

Hi to you too~

[shaddowez]

Hey there notty!

[sthar8]

Not this asshole :/

Ily2 <3

first blush scumpool is {DV, implosion, phok}

townsies are {mala, notty**, Aneninenenenen*, BPC}

*because he gave me the catchup summary. Although he's apparently a pidgeon-pervert, so...
**please post like mad until I really believe this.

I'm on a manic phase right now, so as soon as I stop PACING and PLAYING MAGIC i'm gonna go do VCA and WAGON ASSOCIATIVES.

it's hard to get a feel for nka without having been in the game at the time, so if anybody wants to pitch their tinfoil theories re: that, you can do so now.

[SleepyKrew]

guys guess what

[SleepyKrew]

there's going to be a VC