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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:56 am

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Gammagooey wrote:TTH hasn't done anything and him coming up with a bad trace result is probably lynchworthy, I just don't really have anything useful to say about him until he gets into the thread.

I've been kind of overloaded with work and personal stuff recently, I'll do my best to find time to share my bulba thoughts at least tomorrow night.

He's not coming back I think.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:57 am

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I was going to ask Copper's teammate to ask his thoughts about tth but then I realized it's Aronis.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:11 am

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Bulbazak wrote:@CDB: Why don't you like looking at how people approach the game? I think that's the best way to understand their mindset and thought process, which helps in figuring out whether they're town or scum.


You're missing my point.
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comes down to how someone "approaches the game". Everything that everyone in this thread is talking about comes down to that. You might as well have turned to whoever it was you were addressing and saying "oh, hey, I get it. It's because of how Cheetory is playing, right?". It's an empty statement.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:12 am

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Cheetory6 wrote:
CDB wrote:I know I just told him it's probably not important but I'm still not completely happy with this. If anyone's opportunistically jumping on UT forgetting that ffery is confirmed town, it's Cheetory.
For the same reason as before?


I don't know if I'm happy with the way that I worded it before. As in the quote above, I think my concern is more than, if anyone was scum trying to take advantage of UT's behaviour at that point, your post looked the most like it. As should be obvious, though, I'm conflicted about it.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:24 am

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ftr i have thought and still do think that bulba saying i'm shutting down discussion because i'm not chattering as much as usual is rly dumb

i'll jump into this again or do something eventually. mostly free starting friday
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:44 am

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Cheetory post to me wrote:
Uh. Okay, so
walk me through this townread on Bulba
because I have Tier sitting on my one shoulder telling me that his play on D1 looked bad based on his experience with his
scum-meta
and a lot of his content lately has just been
responding to things/posturing/not a lot of trying to build cases
on people to try and build wagons.
His Aronis vote
is sitting there and there isn't a lot of convincing reasoning there. It looks like
it's just there for show
to me. His stance on
TTH is also pretty contrary,
which makes me feel like he's possibly scum trying to avoid jumping on board a large wagon so he can
coast
for now on the sidelines. Argue with me and convince me that I'm wrong if you think I'm wrong. TIA.


Cheetory, I have underlined and italicized separate things to make my reply easier to follow. My team recommended trying something new that a mere 1 2 3 4 format to be easier to follow.

Underlined #1: I like players who cut against the grain and give clear articulate reasons that can be true from their perspective. I have to go to work in an hour but I will elaborate more on this when I get back. ABR is smacking me upside the head metaphoricallyafter reading Bulba's ISO.

Italicized #1: Scum meta that is not articulated here is not evidence. Scum meta is rately used to convict in my real life because it ismore prejudicial than useful. Plud Bulba's HU2 town meta goes against this point. While I think Tier's a good player, I don't consider vague, unseeable things and I cannot see your team chat.

Underlined #2: Everyone's play is largely reactionary. We take things provided in thread and respond to them. Not getting this. Also, he's clearly pressuring suspects which is good. I didn't exactly nake a case for TTH.

Italicized #2: I like his Aronis vote. This is the info gathering srage and I like some people intellectuallt doubring me. His reasons aren't bad either. Aronis has been sheep. Some sheep are needed but checking to see if they haveoriginal thoughts is not bad.

Underlined #3: Why? The easier just for show thing is to defend TTH regardless of their alignments.

Italicized #3: Contrary? How so? To what?

Underlined 4:: Coast Bulba really? All his opinions have been doing is annoy people.
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:28 am

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VC 41 (Major Day 1, VC 4)


(7)
TellTaleHeart:
Titus, Empire, Tammy, Aronis, Marquis, vezokpiraka, Cheetory6 [L-3]
(1)
Bulbazak:
Gammagooey
(1)
GuyInFreezer:
ChannelDelibird
(1)
Tammy:
Espeonage
(1)
Aronis:
Bulbazak

(8)
Not Voting:
Actiondan, Deasvail, GuyinFreezer, mastin2, Shadoweh, TellTaleHeart, T S O, Untrod Tripod
(Cheetory6)


With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is Saturday, April 25th, at 9PM CST.

Major Day One Deadline(expired on 2015-04-25 20:00:00)


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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:31 am

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Unvote
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:31 am

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V/LA from the 10th-17th
during the UK Scummers Meet. While this has the benefit of having all four of my team in the same place to talk things over, we won't have regular internet access, though we'll be seeking it out when we can to keep up. I'll probably be reading more than I post, though.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:41 am

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It seems that I'm at L-3. o.O

I wonder what for.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:51 am

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UNVOTE: GuyInFreezer
VOTE: TellTaleHeart
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:52 am

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I have reasons for detecting DV, which I will not reveal unless I'm being seriously considered as a lynch candidate. As I will be confirmed in the next minor day (don't ask), I'm not particularly worried about that.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:53 am

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ChannelDelibird wrote:UNVOTE: GuyInFreezer
VOTE: TellTaleHeart

You're really going to make me claim before I post anything?
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:54 am

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Well, get posting.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:58 am

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Shadoweh wrote:Simply put, DV is on my team's list of expected nightkills, so detecting him is suspicious. It'll depend on TTH's explanation, if he ever you know, posts again. Just from a scan of TTH he wanted to boon vezok but booned Marquis for some reason. I'm not against it. It's just disinteresting.

That must've been some scan, because I never said I wanted to boon vezok. Ever.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:00 am

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TellTaleHeart wrote:I have reasons for detecting DV, which I will not reveal unless I'm being seriously considered as a lynch candidate. As I will be confirmed in the next minor day (don't ask), I'm not particularly worried about that.

You're at l-2 or close. You are indeed considered for a lynch right now.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:02 am

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Vezok:
Titus wrote:@All, we should not be outing if we traced or detected as PRs are more likely to detect and VTs are more likely to trace.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:07 am

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ChannelDelibird wrote:
@TTH:
I have two questions.

1) Why did you swap with Antihero?
2) How well are you fulfilling that reason for swapping?

Not very well, CDB. Not very well at all. :oops:
I'm currently in the process of getting my shit together.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:12 am

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TellTaleHeart wrote:
ChannelDelibird wrote:
@TTH:
I have two questions.

1) Why did you swap with Antihero?
2) How well are you fulfilling that reason for swapping?

Not very well, CDB. Not very well at all. :oops:
I'm currently in the process of getting my shit together.


You didn't answer 1).
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:18 am

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Anti fell behind early and since I was posting on the game from the team PT (and considering Anti's upcoming schedule in RL), we figured it would be best if we traded places.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:26 am

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UNVOTE: TellTaleHeart
VOTE: GuyInFreezer

For the time being, at least. Carry on with your catch-up; interested to see where your vote goes, etc.
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:44 am

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I like that pressurevote by CDB. Let's keep him.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:26 am

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Bulba wrote:I have a wiki full of meta that will prove you wrong.
Brb doing mafiahomework today.
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:20 am

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TellTaleHeart wrote:
ChannelDelibird wrote:
@TTH:
I have two questions.

1) Why did you swap with Antihero?
2) How well are you fulfilling that reason for swapping?

Not very well, CDB. Not very well at all. :oops:
I'm currently in the process of getting my shit together.

Don't hide behind a PR. That shit doesn't cut it.

Also the reason for switching is bullshit. You knew who had time and you still put anti here. He was scun and doesn't like playing scum.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:35 am

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fferyllt wrote:Nacho thought the interactions between DV and Marquis felt off.
Back pathetically long ago (by which, I mean, in the first 20 pages), my group (myself included) shared this sentiment, though in my case the emphasis was on DV.

Also, not lynching Tammy and going to probably just lynch anyone pushing her.
Vote: Espeonage
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Just to put that out there.

Oh and did I mention I'm still horrifically behind having not read anything except random pieces? I'm applying a, "keep reading the current material and scratch the older stuff until I have the time" policy right now. When I have the time, I'll read the 40-page gap for all that important stuff, but right now, not so much; staying caught up is far more important.
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