White Flag Mafia [TM2015] (Game Over)

[Ankamius]

That you were using that as a defense too much and shouldn't even need it if what you're saying is true.

[Zachrulez]

Oh I see, me mentioning it is him keeping zach scum in the backpocket because me saying it is WIFOM!

Ok so Ank is this team mafia's nachomamma now.

[Tammy]

lol

[Ankamius]

ok

[Zachrulez]

I think that was the only time I mentioned it.

[Zachrulez]

Do you understand the reference Ank?

[Equinox]

Vote Count 2.22

Cogito Ergo Sum (4) - Ankamius, Antihero, BlueBloodedToffee, Cheery Dog
Cheery Dog (3) - Cogito Ergo Sum, Zachrulez, Regfan
BlueBloodedToffee (1) - ika
ika (2) - theelkspeaks, Aneninen

Not Voting (1) - Tammy

With 11 alive, it will take 6 to lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, April 25, 2015, at 4:30 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-04-25 16:30:00).

[Ankamius]

uhhhhh I might have confused you for llamarble or someone else then, because I can't find any other instances either.

Do you understand the reference Ank?

no

[Regfan]

@Tammy; Got any meta links of him seeming naturally scummy that I can read through later? Don't think I have any experience with him whatsoever so it's possible some of my issues with him are playstyle based, other than basic not being able to follow/understand all of his thoughts/stances it's also a case of a) I think Llamas death over mine makes a lot of sense from Ank!Scum, b) I don't like how he has no read on me when he has Mollie on his team who's yet to comment on me. I didn't town-read his comment of "I'd have replaced out as scum", don't believe it's true, heck I don't even believe Zach stating it is true (I think he'd know him replacing out would have been an instant nail in his coffin here) but I don't find either of them making that statement scummy I guess? The "here are my links of being bad as mafia" did nothing for me either. I still don't really see your town read here.

[Ankamius]

a) I think Llamas death over mine makes a lot of sense from Ank!Scum

Can you detail this please?

[Tammy]

Regfan: Marble was the obvious night kill last night.

[Zachrulez]

He made a hilarious case on me in the last white flag as scum that consisted of me selecting a scum role for WIFOM reasons.

You painting my self meta as scummy for WIFOM reasons just got me having flashbacks.

[quote="In post 1207, Ankamius"]uhhhhh I might have confused you for llamarble or someone else then, because I can't find any other instances either.

And yet you attacked me for it? I'm supposed to be thinking you're town with that kind of mindset?

[Tammy]

Ank - When did llamarble use that as an excuse though?

[Zachrulez]

Let's fix that

He made a hilarious case on me in the last white flag as scum that consisted of me selecting a scum role for WIFOM reasons.

You painting my self meta as scummy for WIFOM reasons just got me having flashbacks.

uhhhhh I might have confused you for llamarble or someone else then, because I can't find any other instances either.

And yet you attacked me for it? I'm supposed to be thinking you're town with that kind of mindset?

[Regfan]

Can you detail this please?

Llama had a fairly decent scum-read on you yesterday whereas I had you as town; I can see you leaving me alive and shooting him whereas I think if you're town scum would have shot me and used Llama to push you.

Regfan: Marble was the obvious night kill last night.

You think? Might just be Empire getting in my head before leaving but I thought it was very likely me. Also is there any more to your Ank town-read because what you've given so far hasn't done much for me, and those meta links of him would be nice please.

[Ankamius]

It was actually in the opposite direction

potato

how are you

meh been better. whats your read on zach and why?

eh. I can resonate with the scum-replace-out thing, but him focusing so much on that this game for why he's town makes me doubt how true it is.

???

[Ankamius]

Can you detail this please?

Llama had a fairly decent scum-read on you yesterday whereas I had you as town; I can see you leaving me alive and shooting him whereas I think if you're town scum would have shot me and used Llama to push you.

This kinda depends. If the scumteam has teammates that know how I operate, then they'd be less likely to go that route. I'm a lot easier to have in the game when I'm disengaged and the easiest way to get me engaged and potentially make me obvtown myself is to try to push a lynch on me. It generally doesn't work unless there's role shenanigans involved.

[Zachrulez]

Ank - When did llamarble use that as an excuse though?

I've found this whole exchange fascinating and I'm back to thinking Ank is scum.

[Zachrulez]

Which further indicates CES is town.

Actually on the CES wagon, Anti is the only one I would be comfortable calling town.

[Ankamius]

Ank - When did llamarble use that as an excuse though?

I remember a lot of Llamarble touting how town he was and how great his towngame was throughout day 1 when he was being attacked, which is a pretty significant reason why every member of my team that was reading at the time was scumreading him.

It was less the action itself than the general thought process.

[Tammy]

Regfan: Marble was the obvious night kill last night.

You think? Might just be Empire getting in my head before leaving but I thought it was very likely me. Also is there any more to your Ank town-read because what you've given so far hasn't done much for me, and those meta links of him would be nice please.

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Yes, that's why I asked you if you really thought you were dying last night. Empire thinking you'd die over marble kinda surprised me too. In fact, Marble's light concern about you is why I started worrying about you in the first place. But like I said the game looks different from the outside. There was not even the slightest little doubt in my mind marble was town.

These are the only ones I can link:

Here's our most recent: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60385

Here's on from a bit ago: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=29483

I feel like there's another completed but I can't think of it right now.

[Zachrulez]

Yeah but that had nothing to do with my defense and he was claiming his play as obvtown in a way that was no way similar to the piece of self meta of mine that you were attacking.

[Tammy]

Ank - When did llamarble use that as an excuse though?

I remember a lot of Llamarble touting how town he was and how great his towngame was throughout day 1 when he was being attacked, which is a pretty significant reason why every member of my team that was reading at the time was scumreading him.

It was less the action itself than the general thought process.

That was actually one of the biggest indicators that Marble was completely town. I think my biggest surprise there is that Mollie is on your team and Nacho is on Marble's team. I'm not sure how much experience Marble has with Mollie, but from what I know Mollie and Nacho talk about mafia and mafia players, so her having absolutely no idea of marble is surprising.

Actually no, if they haven't played together, which is possible because marble hasn't played in a while, I know that Mollie at least followed the first crosstown game so she wouldn't be so completely unaware of marble. Don't know about your other team members though.

But, wait seriously Mollie thought him proclaiming he was town and he had a good town game was why she scum read him??? Does not compute.

[Zachrulez]

Tammy, Ank is scum. believe it.

[Ankamius]

Ank - When did llamarble use that as an excuse though?

I remember a lot of Llamarble touting how town he was and how great his towngame was throughout day 1 when he was being attacked, which is a pretty significant reason why every member of my team that was reading at the time was scumreading him.

It was less the action itself than the general thought process.

That was actually one of the biggest indicators that Marble was completely town. I think my biggest surprise there is that Mollie is on your team and Nacho is on Marble's team. I'm not sure how much experience Marble has with Mollie, but from what I know Mollie and Nacho talk about mafia and mafia players, so her having absolutely no idea of marble is surprising.

Actually no, if they haven't played together, which is possible because marble hasn't played in a while, I know that Mollie at least followed the first crosstown game so she wouldn't be so completely unaware of marble. Don't know about your other team members though.

But, wait seriously Mollie thought him proclaiming he was town and he had a good town game was why she scum read him??? Does not compute.

mollie read marble as town early and switched it up later on. Do you want me to ask what her reasoning was? She never went into it in the thread.