Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[ActionDan]

I really want to cheets. To sort out a few people especially our 2 lynch candidates. Both of them being scum is a real possibility and fanastic, one can dream. The thing about Aronis you mentioned tho, is that not something that is prototypical scum behavior? I think it's strange to immediately jump to say that it's only cause for a mislynch. Also I thought the main reason for people voting dv was shitty reads.

In any case shaking the tree is fine. I'll try to do more of that in between my sister's graduation this weekend.

[ActionDan]

My read on Espeonage is kind of hard to explain atm. A combination of a gut feeling that the lynch would have been more likely to go through if he was scum that I can't really put into words and the fact that I'm still alive atm.

Its a shame you feel that way, especially since if it were me I wouldn't put stock into any of these feelings. (do you really think scum kills you after espeonage announces he knows your sign?)

[ChannelDelibird]

Cheet, I am putting in quite a lot of effort kthx

[4nxi3ty]

@4nxiety...do you think Titus is bussing or is this purely a survivalistic vote?

I have zero idea about aronis, haven't seen enough, read enough, etc. I mean it's certainly possible that titus is bussing. But yeah survivalistic.

hey 4nxi3ty

if you've got opinions on actiondan and shadoweh nows probably the time to share

originally thought actiondan's push on espeonage was weak but I actually like some of the comments he's made recently, tonewise: "top wagons make me cry", "uncomfortable being on the same wagon as these ppl", "not confident"

I feel the same way about shadoweh that I do about aronis.

[4nxi3ty]

I probly won't be around much the rest of this weekend so I'm gonna go ahead and claim in case people just vote me in the next two days.

I am Eledora Fawn the oracle

whenever I trace someone I'm informed wether or not they are Viktor Jarvik. Even if the trace fails I'm still informed.

also have a transcendent ability that my sign changes whenever someone targets me my sign changes to that of the person who targeted me.

minor n1 traced singer, not viktor, detected ut
minor n2 traced espeonage, not viktor, trace was unsuccessful

and as far as I know my sign changed to candle on minor n1 and back to blade on major n1 (started out as blade)

[Gammagooey]

I believe the transcendent ability

informing if someone is viktor jarvik seems really really specific and weird.

[Gammagooey]

like if viktor is the last or second to last scum we already pretty much have the ability to plan mass-trace+detect combinations of people and PoE him

why would we get another role that fucks them over even more if Viktor is one of the last survivors to lategame?

[Gammagooey]

also, cheetory should bitch less.

we've done plenty of trying. if you don't like the wagons put in the effort change some opinions yourself. you probably could do it if you spent as much energy actually explaining a super strong scum read as you just did whining about the rest of us.

[Untrod Tripod]

Do you ever feel

[Gammagooey]

also I don't think this should be considered nearly as much as the Viktor-specific investigation role

but him claiming to trace singer n1 when singer's recently claimed her trace on UT would probably be the go-to easily fakable result if he detected then and needed to make up a trace there.

I think this claim is more likely than not coming from scum.

[Untrod Tripod]

like a plastic bag

[Untrod Tripod]

also I don't think this should be considered nearly as much as the Viktor-specific investigation role

but him claiming to trace singer n1 when singer's recently claimed her trace on UT would probably be the go-to easily fakable result if he detected then and needed to make up a trace there.

I think this claim is more likely than not coming from scum.

this is a solid point, but I think singer would be a reasonable choice for a trace

[Untrod Tripod]

and considering that Viktor has a trace ability, I see no reason why the trace claim would be faked, even if it's coming from scum

[Untrod Tripod]

and I know what you're going to say, but WHAT'S THE POINT

there are so many traces/detects flying around that faking a N1 ability would be reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally loose. why not just claim what you did for reals

[Gammagooey]

pretty sure pretty much everyone has a trace, its just much more advantageous for scum to detect when they think nobody's tracing them to get a sign for a kill later. and dv minor n1 would definitely fit that.

[Gammagooey]

also let's not talk about the little minor thing about his claim forever

why a viktor specific investigation role? I don't think that's a real thing that exists.

[Untrod Tripod]

you think DV would reasonably expect to not be traced?

I dunno, I thought he was a reasonable choice for investigative abilities

PEdit
why? I've used exactly that role in a game before.

[Gammagooey]

like if viktor is the last or second to last scum we already pretty much have the ability to plan mass-trace+detect combinations of people and PoE him

why would we get another role that fucks them over even more if Viktor is one of the last survivors to lategame?

[Gammagooey]

like it really does seem like he just wanted to claim an investigative role so he made one based on the sample role PMs.

[Untrod Tripod]

While I agree it's a somewhat fishy claim, I think this game is faiiiiiiiiiirly scumsided in the first place and I would assume that hito would provide the mafia with fakeclaims since everything is so non-standard

[Gammagooey]

They definitely have name fakeclaims at least

there are a bunch of possibilities of him either having a slightly different oracle fakeclaim or him having a VT fakeclaim and wanting to modify it to be investigative if the other fakeclaims make more sense as the other scum given scum abilities and such.

[Oversoul]

The thing that I really dislike about Anxiety's role is the fact that his sign changes. That definitely seems like a scum power considering we have TWO bulletproofs (and a doctor).

The sign change seems more like a power role prevention ability rather than a death prevention ability.

I also think his night actions are fishy.

Lynch it.

[ChannelDelibird]

need a bit of time to digest claim but prolly still prefer we lynch aronis

[Oversoul]

Where is the smiley that mercilessly bangs its head into a brick wall?

[Gammagooey]

tbf i would be pretty fine with aronis getting run up again tomorrow

but this is a pretty bad claim and 4nx should die.

actually i'll probably share a few opinions after lunch so I can fuck off and get things done for most of the rest of the day in case a lynch happens before tomorrow