Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

[Cho]

Well I mean if it's X-shot it'd definitely be 2-shot or more, judging by post 2.

I know this looks like me trying to set up reasons not to lynch me tomorrow as if I already know my kill's not going to go through. But like. Your post is pretty much setting up for me to be roleblocked again.

Also let me say one last time, if some town doc protected Frogger last night and chose to let a likely vig eat the lynch instead of just providing a reason the kill didn't go through so we didn't have to potentially mislynch my slot over rb+bp spec, they suck.

[Cho]

Mod: were any already-existing roles changed after the 4 roles from post 2 were randomly chosen? Were all other roles in the game finalized before the 4 random roles were rolled?

[Grib]

Eh, I doubt the Doc would protect mollie given the shit that went down D1 and how many people were going 'if MS is town mollie is a deadfrog!'

Also, yeah, I'm warming up to your whole 'there's a scum BP to counter the Vig' since there likely isn't a Serial Killer and mafia BP would otherwise be completely pointless.

[Grib]

Wow, that post really looks like a Doc crumb.

I wonder if the mafia will look at that and go 'hey, Grib is probably the Doc?'

[Fro99er]

Well I mean if it's X-shot it'd definitely be 2-shot or more, judging by post 2.

I agree with this.

I know this looks like me trying to set up reasons not to lynch me tomorrow as if I already know my kill's not going to go through. But like. Your post is pretty much setting up for me to be roleblocked again.

I didn't want to bring this up.

Also let me say one last time, if some town doc protected Frogger last night and chose to let a likely vig eat the lynch instead of just providing a reason the kill didn't go through so we didn't have to potentially mislynch my slot over rb+bp spec, they suck.

1. I doubt you're getting lynched today. At this point I don't want to lynch you, but...
2. This is the argument that actually makes me WANT to vote you. Every time you bring this up (you played this angle before, but from the scum angle that scum wanted to roleblock you to get you lynched today), I feel like it's a contrived reason for you to want to avoid a lynch, which makes me want to lynch you a bit more. I replied to this angle (from the scum roleblock angle you had) in 1588.

[dragonspawn]

I have to agree with frog here. You're arguments make me want to lynch you more Cho. They just feel manipulative. And yes it does feel like you are trying to explain why tonight's nk will fail. It's what I did t like about yukari.

[Fro99er]

It's what I did t like about yukari.

I noticed that too. Yukari set their "night kill" up for failure.

[Fro99er]

I'm starting to kinda want to lynch Cho now again, but if not...

oh btw cho, if your not proven tongiht im going full out lynch you

[Ankamius]

Mod: were any already-existing roles changed after the 4 roles from post 2 were randomly chosen? Were all other roles in the game finalized before the 4 random roles were rolled?

**This is not public information.**

[Cho]

I don't really care tbh. If you guys are just going to ignore cold logic and plain common sense there's not much point in playing here or bothering to argue against a dumb lynch.

Picture yourself in a game full of Tituses (Titus at her confbiasing worst, to be fair) and you'll start to feel what I am right now.

[dragonspawn]

It's precisely because i can't ignore the logic or common sense that causes me to reject that emotional appeals. It's, to repeat myself manipulative.

You may or may not be scum. I don't know yet. But the fact that you keep trying to claim you are obviously town or essentially mod confirmed when you aren't really doesn't fly with me. It immediately sends up red flags for me.

Maybe that's illogical or contrary to common sense to you, but it isn't to me. I personally dislike ignoring red flags to me because that's literally what always bites me in the butt.

[Cho]

I'm not claiming I'm mod-confirmed town; that's dumb.

I'm just very obviously setup-confirmed town to anyone actually using their brain.

[Fro99er]

I don't really care tbh. If you guys are just going to ignore cold logic and plain common sense there's not much point in playing here or bothering to argue against a dumb lynch.

Nobody's ignoring anything. I've moved away from voting you, listened to your points, agreed you've made some good ones, but you've also made some points I disagree with. That's how I play the game.

I think you've acquitted yourself well for the situation Yukari left you in, but I don't understand why you think we're all confbiasing. I've clearly, clearly listened to your points.

[Hydrangea]

im just more questioning vig vs BP+RB in general

Me too.

The one problem I have with my Frogger townread is mollie's replace out. I could easily see it as partially coming from the mollie that hates being scum because it also felt... weird and unprompted. But then idk because that slot's been so fucking town to me. :/

Mollie's replace out looked like frustrated town imo.

[Plum]

Hydrangea, talk about Bookitty?

[Tere]

Hydrangea, talk about Bookitty?

I'd like that as well please.

I'm lacking in words for some reason at the moment but I've given both Plum and Boo a good hard ISO (ooh err) and based on that I'm signalling

Intent to Vote Bookitty

I'm signalling intent because IIRC we are at L-2 and there's Ika in the game. And I'd like Hydrangea to answer Plum's question, for starters.

[Fro99er]

I'm starting to kinda want to lynch Cho now again, but if not...

oh btw cho, if your not proven tongiht im going full out lynch you

I'm moving away from this again.

A good night's sleep helps clear the mind. I want to lynch Boo, and we'll sort everything else out D3 after the night phase.

[Bookitty]

I am cool with this, as I said. I would ask that you look hard at Plum tomorrow, though, and that you stick to your word that if Cho doesn't vig tonight, she's actually going to get some REAL scrutiny.

Thanks in advance! <3

[Fro99er]

I'd like Hydrangea to answer Plum's question

[ika]

I'm not claiming I'm mod-confirmed town; that's dumb.

I'm just very obviously setup-confirmed town to anyone actually using their brain.

your setup confimred to be non-mafia. not non-sk....

thats the point im more of arguing now but not pushing it very hard.

if you could draw a conclusion that would make it non-sk then maybe but im showing you a flaw in your setup spec. im not disproving your idea that killing exist with BP, im jsut disprvoing it should be town!vig

[Ankamius]

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[Fro99er]

52 hours until deadline. For the record, I will NOT be around this evening (USA east coast time), tomorrow evening, or near deadline. My vote will have to be locked in by saturday morning (and I'll probably be hungover then too).

[ika]

tere get in here and vote so i can hammer

[Tere]

Do we give Hydrangea a day to answer?

I will want to lay my vote down 20 hours from now at the maximum.

I kinda don't think she is going to answer so I am tempted to vote. Thoughts?

[Tere]

I mean, I'm impatient too, but not answering the question is basically a scumclaim, right?