You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Klingoncelt]

I should probably make my way through the 20+ pages, and I think I will, but for now I'm selling my vote to the first person to request it. Be like a jump start, perhaps.

I request you to vote Klingoncelt.

Birds of Prey for the win.

And Titus is playing exactly like her Xiao hydra did in Twilight Zone Mafia - trying so hard to get me lynched Day1. Poor Town Doctor Klingon.

[itlepip]

OMFG meta....

[Spifflop]

Are you claiming Town Doctor or are you talking about your role in Twilight Zone?

And if you think Titus is playing like she did in Twilight Zone you wouldn't be scum reading her because she was town in that game.

~Spiffy

[Passionate Storm]

Are you claiming Town Doctor or are you talking about your role in Twilight Zone?

And if you think Titus is playing like she did in Twilight Zone you wouldn't be scum reading her because she was town in that game.

~Spiffy

The words...they aren't in my mouth anymore.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

You're just trying to find anything to paint her in a scummy light at this point. So you're saying that it's scummy of her to respond to your case?

PEdit: How can she get in the way?
You can still make posts. My point still stands.

~Spiffy

No. She is plenty capable of responding to my case and she has chosen not too. Instead she lies and shares untruths which I have to go out of my way to respond to or risk losing the very few people I have because she posts something eye-catching or distracting.

I am also trying to have a discussion with other people over their read of her. You know, or should know, for a fact that solid arguments do not win games, spiffy, it's who can get the most attention and direct it to the place that wins the game for them. So getting people to take the time to read my arguments is really hard when she does shot like that. She actually accused them of pretending to listen (I believe) to make me feel better about myself. How on EARTH is that anywhere ducking near responding to my argument s? Nowhere. It's nowhere near it and the fact that you defended that piece of craps post makes me so angry.

And even with that, this minor argument we've had has already set back some of the work I've done, I think. Neither Mr parabola nor itlepip is responding anymore, so maybe I just can't win.

It's just so frustrating trying to get places without getting messed up by you scumterupting.

I had RL stuff to do. My point is that do Klingon's posts really do anything for you, they are all neck deep in meta that only Titus knows. Since that is her only defense and its not convincing Titus \_(ツ)_/. She isn't doing anything to move town forward.

So for clarification, you're saying we should sheep Titus because she has more experience with one of the players than the rest of us? Because I don't agree with that.

[Spifflop]

Yeah Klingon is def. scum everyone please wagon with reckless abandon.

~Spiffy

[Klingoncelt]

What a weird post.

Are you posting in character/flavor, or do you have a tragic role?

Would you please stop?
You're fishing. You're not helping.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

No. I'm not fishing. You're posting weird.

Why do the weird posting, then accuse someone of rolefishing when they notice it?

A Jedi you are not.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Yeah Klingon is def. scum everyone please wagon with reckless abandon.

~Spiffy

And this is proof that her interrupting can mess everything up.

[itlepip]

No, but if Kling can't make an argument that isn't meta and the consensus of people who know the meta is that the meta makes kling scum, I think kling is scum.

Pedit: Explain how it isn't fishing instead of attack Varsoon please.

[Spifflop]

EE interrupting has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening. There's no such thing as interrupting in a forum mafia game. Nothing anyone else posts should prevent someone from saying something.

~Spiffy

[Klingoncelt]

but at Elyse has given her reads. Kling has done nothing, ...

Why are you lying, Pip?

I gave a partial list, Alchemist to Eagle. I'll continue the list tonight as promised.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

EE interrupting has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening. There's no such thing as interrupting in a forum mafia game. Nothing anyone else posts should prevent someone from saying something.

~Spiffy

It can distract however, and do so quite effectively.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm not at all interested in discussing anything with anyone who is not open to discussion and opinion change when on the topic of mafia.

[itlepip]

Lol wut, what reads????

I'm doing my usual as Town, whether you like it or not. Reads come as I get them.

So your only reads are AJ town and us scum? Really? Nothing on grapes Alch ee? Spiffeh? Elyse?

I posted a read on Grapes.

I want to re-read Elyse and Spiffeh.

Alchemist, Anen, PereV, and Hiplop I always have trouble reading.

Extrapolated Eagle, Randomidget, Spider Gwen I don't know, they'll be harder to figure out.

^Everyone in null "hey guys I posted a readlist so get off my back pls"....

I can drop a vote on Jeanne in a New York minute, but it's very hard for me to vote for Titus on Day1. Don't worry, I'll get around to it.

do you have any other reads?

Yeah, but first:

I was waiting for a game to be not ongoing. The Day lasted exactly 11 posts, shortest Day I've ever seen here at MS, and Titus was lynched. Not her fault really, she replaced into a Scum slot. But anyway, I just felt heartless throwing a vote on her. The hydra's posts since my FoS, however, haven't done jack to make them look Towny.

So,

VOTE: Passionate Storm

Other reads:

I'm bugged by Grapes' thing. Is he buddying me? Maybe, but I think he's setting up mislynches, as in, "Oh look, those guys all called poor Klingon Scum but she flipped Town -

they

must be Scum!!"

Even though she's wrong about me, I think Auntie J's sweet.

Mo' better reads will come as this Day progresses.

So grapes is a scum-lean and Titus is scum. Can you give any evidence for either of these, cause you haven't. For someone who doesn't like defending themselves you sure did it a lot today. You haven't even tried to scumhunt, nor have you posted any reads. You are misrepping what happened earlier this game and making generalizations. I might even lynch you through a claim you are that scummy.

[Passionate Storm]

@Kling 773 and 777 please.

[Klingoncelt]

But here check this out:
Klingon is under pressure. Passionate Storm makes a couple posts about how scummy she is, and what does Elyse say when one of her prime scum reads that she wants lynched over Gwen? "Ditto to passionate storm" now she may have those thoughts all on her own, but this way, when kling OMGUS votes passionate storm, what does she say about Elyse? "Need to reread." Now I don't know about you but for me when I'm OMGUS ing I try to get all my aggressors, because that way maybe they'll back off. But Klingon didn't even feel the push. Which means it wasn't really there

You think I'm not noticing Elyse?

I posted a partial reads list with her as Scum.

...And it's not there. WTF? What happened to it?

Good thing I have it in my notes.

Anyway, I'm staying parked on the grey-green Scum.

Here's the list

that should have been posted at 4 this morning, is the site updating or something?

:

Alchemist21 - He's one of the players on this site that I can't read. Can't Read

Aneninen - He's one of the players on this site that I can't read. This game... He's kinda goofy. Not alignment indicative, though. The Clotilde thing... wtf. Can't Read

Errantparabola - Very much in the game, paying attention... Town

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra) - Looks like Fresh is having trouble using Jaqenspeak. Anyhoo, they're paying attention. A bit fixated on SpiderGwen, but...Lean Town

Aunt Jemina - C'mon, AJ is always Town, isn't she? Isn't she? It bugs me that she jumped on my FoS post, but w/e. It bugs me much more that after I explained my hesitation to vote Titus, AJ made no comment towards me, nor did she remove her vote. Until very recently I was the usual Day1 low-hanging fruit lynch, I wonder if she's just going for the easy mislynch. Lean Scum

Elyse - Happy to finally be in a game without RC, but she acts like a basket case regardless. Her posts are full of busywork, but I'm not seeing any depth. She bounces her votes with little clarification: Garmr, Aneninen, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt. Scum


Extrapolated Eagle - More posts than anyone else. Way more than most. My eyes are glazing over. I'll start here tomorrow.

[Passionate Storm]

I'm not at all interested in discussing anything with anyone who is not open to discussion and opinion change when on the topic of mafia.

You are the one who seems not open to change. You aren't event even responding to Klingon's posts here.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Itlepip if your problem is no reads, get on inte or peregrine or Shiro or Elyse or almost any of the lurkers here. Not posting reads three days into day one isn't a good reason to scum read someone

@Titus not interested in debating Elyse's alignment? That's something I'm very certain that once you got into you would stay interested in as town. Want to explain this part to me? Just want to focus Klingon, or?

[Spiffeh]

Titus we should using targeted nagging methods to get people to vote for Klingon.

That is how confident I am.

~Spiffy

[Elyse]

What a weird post.

Are you posting in character/flavor, or do you have a tragic role?

Would you please stop?
You're fishing. You're not helping.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

No. I'm not fishing. You're posting weird.

Why do the weird posting, then accuse someone of rolefishing when they notice it?

A Jedi you are not.

You are fishing. I also called attention to Varsoon's strange posting, but I didn't flat out ask if he had a tragic role or was flavor posting like you did.

P-edit: Ahhh. The long awaited half reads list full of blanket statements and a grand total of FOUR stances, two of which are only leans.

[Spifflop]

Titus we should using targeted nagging methods to get people to vote for Klingon.

That is how confident I am.

~Spiffy

FUCK

[itlepip]

Itlepip if your problem is no reads, get on inte or peregrine or Shiro or Elyse or almost any of the lurkers here. Not posting reads three days into day one isn't a good reason to scum read someone

@Titus not interested in debating Elyse's alignment? That's something I'm very certain that once you got into you would stay interested in as town. Want to explain this part to me? Just want to focus Klingon, or?

The difference is that they haven't made posts like 'fast wagons are made by scum' that are complete BS.

[Passionate Storm]

Titus we should using targeted nagging methods to get people to vote for Klingon.

That is how confident I am.

~Spiffy

FUCK

It's what I always do.

[Passionate Storm]

But here check this out:
Klingon is under pressure. Passionate Storm makes a couple posts about how scummy she is, and what does Elyse say when one of her prime scum reads that she wants lynched over Gwen? "Ditto to passionate storm" now she may have those thoughts all on her own, but this way, when kling OMGUS votes passionate storm, what does she say about Elyse? "Need to reread." Now I don't know about you but for me when I'm OMGUS ing I try to get all my aggressors, because that way maybe they'll back off. But Klingon didn't even feel the push. Which means it wasn't really there

You think I'm not noticing Elyse?

I posted a partial reads list with her as Scum.

...And it's not there. WTF? What happened to it?

Good thing I have it in my notes.

Anyway, I'm staying parked on the grey-green Scum.

Here's the list

that should have been posted at 4 this morning, is the site updating or something?

:

Alchemist21 - He's one of the players on this site that I can't read. Can't Read

Aneninen - He's one of the players on this site that I can't read. This game... He's kinda goofy. Not alignment indicative, though. The Clotilde thing... wtf. Can't Read

Errantparabola - Very much in the game, paying attention... Town

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra) - Looks like Fresh is having trouble using Jaqenspeak. Anyhoo, they're paying attention. A bit fixated on SpiderGwen, but...Lean Town

Aunt Jemina - C'mon, AJ is always Town, isn't she? Isn't she? It bugs me that she jumped on my FoS post, but w/e. It bugs me much more that after I explained my hesitation to vote Titus, AJ made no comment towards me, nor did she remove her vote. Until very recently I was the usual Day1 low-hanging fruit lynch, I wonder if she's just going for the easy mislynch. Lean Scum

Elyse - Happy to finally be in a game without RC, but she acts like a basket case regardless. Her posts are full of busywork, but I'm not seeing any depth. She bounces her votes with little clarification: Garmr, Aneninen, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt. Scum


Extrapolated Eagle - More posts than anyone else. Way more than most. My eyes are glazing over. I'll start here tomorrow.

Why include people you can't read? Whyam I not there? Why no strong stances? Why don't you have spiffehlop and itep reads!

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm not at all interested in discussing anything with anyone who is not open to discussion and opinion change when on the topic of mafia.

You are the one who seems not open to change. You aren't event even responding to Klingon's posts here.

And you're not responding to mine. Your point? What's changing? People are getting a town read on Klingon cuz she posted a legitimate set of reads? Ok, I called it. Let's move on. I responded, in my opinion, quite fully, to the cases against Klingon and I think that shows that I've been paying attention and I also believe that I'm justified in my lack of vote against her- I'm not convinced she's scum.if you would like to respond to tell me why I'm wrong I would love to discuss as long as you discuss Elyse with me, and if you can cause me to believe she is more worthy of a lynch than Elyse, than I'll vote her.

However, you didn't even fully respond to my case against Elyse, and you have been tunneling poor Klingon for forever and the fact that you're now ignoring Elyse makes me doubt my town read on you and more certain of my town read on Klingon. I am one hundred percent open to change bit like I said before it will take work, something I haven't seen you put forth much at all. You pay attention when it suits you and you're also gone at quite convenient times. If I wasn't targetting Elyse right now I would be taking a MUCH closer look at you, but she's scummier and flies farther under the radar, so she's more dangerous. I'm also more fully convinced she's scum