Mini 409: Amazing Race Mafia! Who won the million dollars?


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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2007 9:13 pm

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good job town.

MeMe would have picked my game apart. i would have been a sitting duck if she stayed in the game. i really played poorly in this game. sorry my mafia partners.

i thought that we were screwed when you started picking Fuldu and me together a couple days ago.

its not like i helped with obviously going after TCS.

my only hope was you all WIFOM when i attacked TCS.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2007 11:55 pm

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Meme wrote:Day 2 I was positive Battle Mage was scum.

After BM was vigged, Patrick's vehemence convinced me he was scum.
I could scarcely imagine BM being scum after Dean turned up scum, Dean's play against him was so oppotunistic. And BM's claim was never likely made up, I doubt he could have thought up such a fakeclaim as that. Of course, I could have been less vehement and said he was probably protown rather than totally obviously protown.

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I was thinking alot about endgames involving me, 1 mafia, 1 vig, 1 SK. There were ways to win it if I actually knew who the SK was, by trying to persuade everyone to lynch the mafiate, then using my day roleblock fern at night. Alternatively simply no lynching would suffice. But it was hard to communicate this plan to the other protown players, and then Fuldu seemed to be trying to disrupt it by advising the mafia on what to do. Plus I had Atticus down as more likely SK than Mari for most of it.

The potential endgame with (Atticus, Patrick, some obvscum) was the one really scaring me. I could have presented a thousand reasons why I was town but I'm not sure Atticus would have listened. I'm glad nothing like this ever happened.
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2007 11:55 pm

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pablito wrote:I also wonder if TCS was killed N4 if Atticus would've lynched/vigged Patrick and given mafia the win.
Possibly, but I thought I had a pretty good case against TCS and that, given the time to make it, I could convince Atticus of it. He, wisely, made a decision and went with it rather than spending a long time listening to what TCS and I had to say.

Had I genuinely been town faced with Patrick and Atticus, I would have presumed Atticus to be scum over Patrick, which clearly wasn't going to fly as an argument in this game. But that meant I really had no solid ideas of how to argue in favor of Atticus killing Patrick. There was also the danger that the remaining Fern would be something verifiable.
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2007 11:59 pm

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Fuldu wrote:But that meant I really had no solid ideas of how to argue in favor of Atticus killing Patrick.
You wouldn't say much in this endgame. Just let Atticus dig the grave for us. You're right that there weren't any great ways to argue for me being scum there, but you might have won nevertheless.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2007 12:40 am

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Patrick wrote:Interesting. So Battle Mage was totally full of it about his night choice finding someone going somewhere. Glad we didn't put too much weight in that. I don't understand why Mari killed HackerHuck. I don't see how that could benefit her in any way.
actually, there was a method in my madness. knowing that TCS had not done the killing on the previous night, i could not actually say for sure that TCS was town, so i figured a sure fire test would be the following:

had i not been killed by Atticus, it was my intention to say that i had tracked TCS, and THAT I KNEW HE HAD A NIGHT ACTION. this only means slightly changing the physics of my role, but i decided that TCS-scum, would at this point claim protown power role (to cover for the night action thing). If TCS had not claimed power role, and remained adamant about being vanilla, i would have been able to certify with some assurity that TCS was protown.

Of course, the whole Dayvigging business kind of hindered that.

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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2007 12:44 am

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Oh I see. Could have worked, though some people are keen on lynch all liars.
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2007 1:08 am

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true, but i reckon my sparkling personality could win them round lol :p
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2007 3:29 am

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I would have lynched you. :\ I'm real big on the metagaming.
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2007 9:22 am

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All the problems come back to me, now don't they...
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2007 10:05 am

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Atticus wrote:All the problems come back to me, now don't they...
yes lol
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2007 10:57 am

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Atticus wrote:All the problems come back to me, now don't they...
I wouldn't worry too much about it. You made the right decision in the end.
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2007 12:32 pm

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Fuldu wrote:
Atticus wrote:All the problems come back to me, now don't they...
I wouldn't worry too much about it. You made the right decision in the end.
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2007 10:39 am

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Well, 2 out of 3 was not bad.

Sorry Huck.


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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2007 10:39 pm

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I feel my play was equally as poor.

I believe we did share safe claims.

I decided not to use mine because it was pretty obvious I was going to be lynched. In retrospec I should have claimed doc or cop to try and at least flush out the real one, but as it turns out those might have actually held up.
i also thought that bm would have got info on anybody that targeted Andrews so I though he knew I killed him and that is why he was so sure I was scum.

I think I really hindered my team.
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Sat May 26, 2007 7:31 am

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Any suggestions on the setup/modding/scenes/theme?
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Sat May 26, 2007 7:36 am

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The whole thing was very good overall. Maybe the SK needed boosting a little though. Permanent nightkill immunity seems like a fair boost.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Sat May 26, 2007 12:07 pm

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I don't think the SK needed boosting at all. I think that, if anything, it would have been more appropriate to balance the night issues against the day issues. Despite knowing that they were lies, I genuinely believe that the arguments about balance that I was making in favor of the existence of a night doc were valid. A permanent nightkill immunity would be a way of doing that, but not one that helps balance town against the scum.

I think Mariyta's biggest difficulty in this game was her having counterclaimed Atticus, which put her in a very difficult position and didn't, that I could really see, gain her anything.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Sat May 26, 2007 12:17 pm

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Neh town would be ok. Town power was alright and the flavour helps. The SK was weak powerwise compared to the mafia. I know playing SK is meant to be hard, but getting to the end would have been tricky, even with suboptimal play from the town.
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:17 am

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