A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Tammy]

In what world does Ami CC that as scum wtf

I thought the CC was null tbh.

Wtf CCs aren't null
Its either from town or scum, stop fence sitting

Fence sitting is ceremoniously removed from the language of everyone in this game. If it's used again in a stupid manner like it's been used from EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO's USED IT TO THIS POINT I'll strike down upon you with great vengeance and furious anger. Test me.

[Tammy]

Yes, page top. I'm not going to bed until it's mine all mine

[Tammy]

Sorry for any excessively delayed responses, I'm currently out of town.

Just reading over everything that's happened, I'd like Ami to clarify themself on what exactly they're trying to say pertaining to Pistachio's Miller claim. Is it a CC? A hinting at it? Just trying to see how people react?

My current scumreads at this time would probably be somewhere in the block of Hiplop, Cakez, and Beeboy. I have a question for you three: What if Pistachio is shot and flips town? What does this suggest about Ami, and would that warrant an instant vote?

@the late RVS matter, I can only be around early morning and laaate evening for this week. Sorry about that.

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[Tammy]

There's fact proving its wrong. I mean sure you can say it's useless to argue about, but if you did any back ground digging on me or even read the sign up thread I made a public announcement to both the playlist and the mod about how my posting will be and why.

~M

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tammy]

Hmm good morning's posts look 10 times better than mala's which is weird.

Nacho when you get here talk to me please?

[Tammy]

I still want actual scum hunting from your slot which you STILL haven't delivered on.

STOP EXAGGERATING.

[Tammy]

Hmmm I have some reads, but I'm going to hold on to a few until I'm both sober and awake.

(Bb it's cool. Though I do think it's funny that more people can't gauge who I'm actually gearing up to vote.)

Also going to hold my vote ooooh noooooo woooooo ahhhhhhhhhh

[SirCakez]

@cakes
What do you mean fence sitting? Fence sitting is when I don't take a stance on a popular wagon with lots of info. Sakura isnt a popular wagon nor is there any solid alignment indicative posts from her yet.

Yes a lot of my posts are about Seniors but that is a fallacy because of my post count
.

Since when is that fence sitting?
You're waffling everywhere on Sakura.

Why is waffling a problem?

It's an out for scum changing reads to fit the game state better. And it shows no conviction in reads which is another scum sign.

[SirCakez]

sircakez - I would love to hear who your biggest scum read is and why without using the phrases fencesit or waffle. gogogoogogogogogogogogoogogoogogogoogogogogoogogogogoogoooo

Currently Mirhawk because his reactions to Ami's Miller CC was very questionable, felt like he knew it was fake, and then I really don't like his dave push.

[SirCakez]

My reservations were to do with his push on Sakura who I was not reading as scum. I did not expect him to back off so quickly but when he did I was more inclined to read him as town, as scum-beeboy had no reason to back off unless he was town and open to changing reads. Thus the sheep. Along with my own read on Seniors anyway.

That's not what I'm referring to.
I'm referring to how you said "I'm withholding my vote for now" then immediately voted in your next post.

Why is this problematic?

And can people stop acting like shit is scummy that isn't, you're making my head explode.

It's backtracking. Why even say that in the first place if he was going to dump a vote two posts later?

[Skybird]

Hi Tammy! Good to see you are town this game.

Beeboy, Tammy has a good point in 566. I take her questioning as trying to see if there is something in your read that just isn't coming across to the rest of us.

(this is through the bottom of page 23)

[Skybird]

Hi guys, I have a three day weekend and am planning to get caught up and into the game. Just posting to remind myself where I need to pick up reading, which is the top of page 13. Here's a few things bugging me so far:

From what I've read Beeboy is not making a ton of sense to me with his FS issue. I will need to re-read it but it seems to be based mostly on the buddies thing which I don't seen as AI.

Dram, can you explain your thoughts on Axel being scum?

Dram, what are your reasons for Axel being scum? I just read your ISO and I didn't see anything about why you think he is scum.

[Swordsworth]

V/La until Wednesday

[THE WRONG WAGON]

On the Miller thing: it's weird that Ami didn't claim in her first post, almost like she was "wait[ing] until everyone else ha[d] posted so [she could] be sure nobody else [was] an actual Town Miller." I don't know if we've seen enough from either to judge which one (if either) is telling the truth.
Reading on, 355 doesn't make sense - if you're actually Town Miller, you can be 99% sure the person you're CCing is Scum, so why on earth would you vote anyone else?? And 357 strongly implies she knows pistachio is Town??? 365: "I think 2 Millers is not likely" YOU MAKE NO SENSE

Surely Ami isn't so new she doesn't know how many Millers are likely in one game.

I've seen 2 millers before but I know that's probably not the norm, which is why I felt like trying out a fake counter claim would make for a bit of fun with potential telling reactions to sift through. From scum who would be much more likely to believe a Miller counter claim from town.

I don't get what you don't like about 357 and 365. I realize my credibility is already shot here but I don't think either was unreasonable from my POV.

Because if you were actually a Miller you've been around long enough to realize that 2 Millers is an incredibly unlikely proposition; pistachion would have been nearly confirmed Scum to you and voting for anyone else or putting forth the idea that there could be 2 Millers wouldn't make sense.

I'm willing to trust goodmorning on beeboy for now since she's played with him recently but it's ridiculous that someone has written over 25% of the game all by himself, and Tammy and pistachi0n are right that when you boil it down there's just not a lot there.

I mean, it's normal from him to play this way as either alignment, and he could pretty easily be bussing, but I don't really think he is.

I'm interested in your Mirhawk push. I was okay with their earlier posting, such as 82 and 93, at the time they were posted, but davesaz is a fairly easy target so I'm not as happy with those posts now as I was when I first read them.

I personally found his early posts felt too much like drive-by sniping. The questions were all pretty good ones, but none of them really felt like they connected with the gamestate at all.

The Miller stuff definitely makes him very likely to be Scum.

and omg you're town(!)

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@Tammy: I can't address all of your questions because I'm not Mala, but here are the ones I can:

I think I need to go back and skim a quick Sakura game. I /may/ have forgotten how she plays. I just think it's odd that she's going to sort Nacho part of your hydra, but it doesn't seem like she has engaged him /yet/.

~M

I feel like I'm harping here, but I really want you to explain *why* it's odd she wants to sort nacho.

I think it was more meant, "It's weird that she says she wants to sort Nacho but hasn't really put action to word."

I have a huge problem with you you saying you where scum reading him yesterday when that post above is the only thing that indicated you had a scum read on mirhawk. It is a blatant scum tell to pull stuff like that to justify your vote and it really bothers me which is why I have trouble seeing you flip town this game.

Nope, GM and I were discussing reads. I had a slight town read off pages 1-5 from Mirhawk, but I said I was holding off before saying it in thread and GM said she disagreed with me on it.

I think you're misrepping me pretty bad though. I am not fabricating my scum read on him. My read changed from early pages to his current posting so I'm failing to see how I'm justifying my read on him when it obviously changed from when I caught up after work and when I went to bed yesterday. I haven't had time to talk to GM today so I'm not sure if she's caught up or where she stands.

~M

Where did the misreported occur?

That quote was so broken.

It's the "you say you were scumreading him yesterday" from beeboy, when in actual fact, she said that

I

was scumreading him yesterday and that she was townreading him.

Surely that one was obvious?

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Hmm good morning's posts look 10 times better than mala's which is weird.

I only have one! (well, 2 after this is posted) But OK!

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I'm really looking forward to seeing more stuff from people like

.

@beeboy: it would be fairly pro-Town of you to post only when you have something new to say so that these people can get less overwhelmed and actually post something. Also it would be easier to sort everyone who isn't you if we don't have to wade through your noise.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

(Because beeboy, you literally have more posts than the bottom TWELVE posters combined.)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.8:

Mirhawk:

davesaz, Amihan, THE WRONG LYNCH, SirCakez, The Pied Piper (5)

Friendless Seniors:

SnarkySnowman, True Ogre, Axelrod, podoboq (4)

pistachi0n:

Sakura Hana, Friendless Seniors, tictac (3)

The Pied Piper:

Tammy, millar13 (2)

SirCakez:

Skybird, Swordsworth (2)

Axelrod:

dramonic (1)

beeboy:

pistachi0n (1)

Swordsworth:

Spiffeh (1)

pistachi0n:

beeboy (1)

davesaz:

Mirhawk (1)

Not Voting:

None.

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

V/LA:

Sakura Hana until 3/28.
tictac until 3/29.
Swordsworth until 3/30.
Amihan until 4/1.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-04-06 21:00:00)

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys I think Swordsworth should be the ultimate lynch for today

Carry on

[podoboq]

Hey guys I think Swordsworth should be the ultimate lynch for today

Carry on

Can you explain why? Is it just because of inactivity and

....What if Pistachio is shot and flips town? What does this suggest about Ami, and would that warrant an instant vote?

[Tammy]

@cakes
What do you mean fence sitting? Fence sitting is when I don't take a stance on a popular wagon with lots of info. Sakura isnt a popular wagon nor is there any solid alignment indicative posts from her yet.

Yes a lot of my posts are about Seniors but that is a fallacy because of my post count
.

Since when is that fence sitting?
You're waffling everywhere on Sakura.

Why is waffling a problem?

It's an out for scum changing reads to fit the game state better. And it shows no conviction in reads which is another scum sign.

How many games have you played?

[Tammy]

My reservations were to do with his push on Sakura who I was not reading as scum. I did not expect him to back off so quickly but when he did I was more inclined to read him as town, as scum-beeboy had no reason to back off unless he was town and open to changing reads. Thus the sheep. Along with my own read on Seniors anyway.

That's not what I'm referring to.
I'm referring to how you said "I'm withholding my vote for now" then immediately voted in your next post.

Why is this problematic?

And can people stop acting like shit is scummy that isn't, you're making my head explode.

It's backtracking. Why even say that in the first place if he was going to dump a vote two posts later?

You're positing his big scum plan was to say he wasn't putting a vote down and then 8 minutes later coming back to the thread and voting?

How is that even backtracking? Why does that make him scum?

[Tammy]

Hi Tammy! Good to see you are town this game.

Beeboy, Tammy has a good point in 566. I take her questioning as trying to see if there is something in your read that just isn't coming across to the rest of us.

(this is through the bottom of page 23)

Hi skybird! I'm pretty happy about it myself

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys I think Swordsworth should be the ultimate lynch for today

Carry on

Can you explain why? Is it just because of inactivity and

....What if Pistachio is shot and flips town? What does this suggest about Ami, and would that warrant an instant vote?

467 in general is just really awful

It has nothing to do with the activity

Do you feel differently?

[podoboq]

Cakez, can you clarify for me your read on Sakura and beeboy? I know that you think beeboy waffled, and I agree with you, but where does that leave you on reading their alignments?

[podoboq]

Hey guys I think Swordsworth should be the ultimate lynch for today

Carry on

Can you explain why? Is it just because of inactivity and

....What if Pistachio is shot and flips town? What does this suggest about Ami, and would that warrant an instant vote?

467 in general is just really awful

It has nothing to do with the activity

Do you feel differently?

I agree that it's pretty bad, and I think it warrants suspicion, but that alone isn't enough to for me to consider him my "ultimate lynch for today." It just seemed like a stretch, so I was wondering if you were seeing something I wasn't.

[SirCakez]

My reservations were to do with his push on Sakura who I was not reading as scum. I did not expect him to back off so quickly but when he did I was more inclined to read him as town, as scum-beeboy had no reason to back off unless he was town and open to changing reads. Thus the sheep. Along with my own read on Seniors anyway.

That's not what I'm referring to.
I'm referring to how you said "I'm withholding my vote for now" then immediately voted in your next post.

Why is this problematic?

And can people stop acting like shit is scummy that isn't, you're making my head explode.

It's backtracking. Why even say that in the first place if he was going to dump a vote two posts later?

You're positing his big scum plan was to say he wasn't putting a vote down and then 8 minutes later coming back to the thread and voting?

How is that even backtracking? Why does that make him scum?

No I'm saying it looks like trying to blend in after realizing his initial "not voting" thing sucked. And that I'd backtracking.
I've completed like 10 or so games onsite now? That's just a guess from memory. I've also played like 20 off site.