A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #3.2:

Friendless Seniors:

The Pied Piper, pistachi0n, Marquis, tictac, podoboq, True Ogre (6)

tictac:

Dwlee99, Friendless Seniors (2)

The Pied Piper:

dramonic (1)

Axelrod:

SirCakez (1)

Mirhawk:

itlepip (1)

Not Voting:

Axelrod, Mirhawk, Cerberus v666, Malakittens, davesaz

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-05-08 10:15:00)

[Friendless Seniors]

plot how bad do you think we are to hard defend skybird like that?

honestly. we are pretty obvious town

[Friendless Seniors]

Plot that post you quoted blatantly wasn't to you

[The Pied Piper]

Plot that post you quoted blatantly wasn't to you

Which post did I quote that wasn't addressed to me? I can't find it. I quoted a bunch of posts in my posts today so i don't know which one you are saying wasn't addressed to me. I clearly thought that whatever post you're talking about was either addressed to me, to my hydra, or to the thread at large, so if you don't narrow it down we're not going to clear this up. The post number of the post that i quoted is enough, you don't have to requote it if it's too much work.

plot how bad do you think we are to hard defend skybird like that?

honestly. we are pretty obvious town

I have gotten away with defending scumbuddies like that in previous games, and I think pretty highly of my own scumgame. When I was scum together with Errant in History I defended KTthecreeper pretty blatantly and it worked. It backfired on me in Miller's Hollow when I stuck my neck out for shos. I defended confscum tn in MYLO in Plain Sight and pulled off a minor miracle. I disagree that defending your partners is always bad scumplay.

More topically, you stuck your neck out pretty far for KTthecreeper in the blitz. Whenever town replaced out you called it a scum replace out but when KTthecreeper replaced out you insisted that the replacement be treated fairly and that it wasn't alignment indicative. I was townreading you at the time but in hindsight you went pretty far out on a limb for him and you might've pulled it off if his replacement had done anything but sit around and say "lol my town meta is that i don't scumhunt".

I'm not accusing you of being bad at being scum; I'm just accusing you of being scum in this game.

[Friendless Seniors]

being that blatant would be bad.

I STILL think it was a bad wagon that happened to hit scum

plot, you know I'm not scum. If you're town..please stop

BULL SHIT on the replacement thing. I ALWAYS treat replacements as null. That's is what I said. People were townreading the townies who left, so I said no, they were scum before scum now. VERY different than what you said

[The Pied Piper]

Spoiler: some quotes from that blitz. coloured in the names to make it easier to follow along.

Also I really don't think

plotter

is scum and I feel the

KT

wagon is sorta I'm bad spirits cuz he's replacing out

Talah

donyou normally scum read replacements? Irrelevant to you being scum that'd a terrible stance I think. In this game it furthers me read on you. Oppurtimistic as hell

Yeah I'm not sure what to make of the

scatter

/

KT

wagons tbh. Honestly I think both might be a compilation of scum and town with scum ready to jump to whichever got the largest

Spiff

my policy is to treat all replaces as null.

And I would be okay with

sakura

,

ank

.

Really.
If

he

's scum that invented (or used) an ear infection as a ways to avoid suspicion for his replacement, that's one the lowest of low things akin to strategic use of V/LA.
The fact that any of you is even treating it as such is upsetting.

This

talah

is scum, basically. Replaced out right before getting lynched

was scum far far before she replaced out

just read the game its pretty obvious

pedit:

plot

vote

talah

plz and thanx

that's horseshit, btw. i know

firebringer

knows how to scumhunt and will do it as town even if he eventually falls into apathy. ppl don't replace into games and then immediately become apathetic though.

Honestly dude I think you might be giving him too much credit. Many games with me he has replaced in and done absolutely nothing, refusing to read the game

explain why

sakura

is your biggest questionmark, but also your top scumread?

Why don't we lynch

oceanwind

? I feel we might have given her a classic free pass cuz

talah

replaced out? I like her recent catch up but I still feel MUCH more comfortable there than

firebringer

You were in a difficult situation that game because basically all the mislynchbait replaced out or were PRs that couldn't be counterclaimed and then there were too many innos, but the difference between the way you approached talah's replace out (who you had been scumreading since page 1), and chastised us for approaching kt's replace out in the same way (who we had been scumreading), and also the way you defended firebringer after his replace in, that was a large part of why we suspected you when we went back and looked at things. You treated your buddy differently than you treated town even though they were doing the same thing "replacing out under pressure."

Anyway that game was shit for everybody involved and good riddance to it.

[Friendless Seniors]

yeah. gee, you mean the person I had a null read I treated differently than the slot I "thought was scum"????

its OUTRAGEOUS you're pushing this

[The Pied Piper]

Like it or not, that's why I thought you were scum in that game and you happened to be scum. Am I scumreading you for the wrong reasons?

You say that defending a buddy is bad scumplay. I say that it isn't necessarily bad scumplay not even if it's blatant and also that you defended your buddy in that one game. You get upset.

You and Mollie were also defending each other in FF7 really blatantly and you pulled it off and it worked great for you. You did really well in that game. I'm not insulting you.

I'm going to go make dinner.

[Friendless Seniors]

no. you thought I was scum via PoE.

you're being so wrong. Like, this is way different than all these examples.

enjoy your food plotty

[The Pied Piper]

thanks hippy.

There was also PoE involved but I did go back and try to understand why you were scum in that game because PoE isn't enough for me usually, but I don't feel like arguing about old games right now.

[Dwlee99]

this push on seniors is further evidence tpp is scum.

[itlepip]

is it do?

I'm kinda in the boat where I want TPP to be scum because then Mirhawk is super scum but nothing about their posts really do anything either way for me.

[Dwlee99]

the push is shit. Seniors is so obviously town here. =_=

[podoboq]

0. The point of this post was that podoboq wants to clear you guys because scum voted for you and that's not a very good reason to clear a person.

Whoa, I do

not

want to clear FS using that logic.

I agree that this alone wouldn't exonerate FS

I said outright that this logic alone isn't enough to make FS not scum. It's just that it's

a

point in favor of town.

[SirCakez]

I feel like Seniors vs TPP is TvT actually.
I still want to murder Mirhawk btw.

[Cerberus v666]

I feel like Seniors vs TPP is TvT actually.
I still want to murder Mirhawk btw.

QFT.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: tictac.

Idk why but the FS wagon right now isn't doing anything. I'd really only lynch due to marquis if I jumped sooo

[Mirhawk]

/dodge

I'm totally going to come back and do that stuff I said I would, legit truth.

I am following along tho, just lurking like a boss.

[Friendless Seniors]

mirhawk vote tictac plz

[Mirhawk]

Nah, but maybe later.

I'm pretty dedicated to not doing anything until I've got an opinion on Skybirds interactions.

[SirCakez]

Someone told me earlier they saw why I thought tictac was scum but that he was town. I think that's why I unvoted him in the first place?

[True Ogre]

Because of experiential differences? Because it was a nonstandard line of thought? Something else?

Either this is rhetorical or I don't understand what you're saying.

Why not check me? I actually claimed to have such a mechanical connection with my flavor, such that I am quite certain another slot in this game, with related flavor to myself, is town.

Why wouldn't you check me, discover that flavor, and then start searching for the connection?

After thinking about it for a bit I wasn't interested in anyone who'd referred to their flavour - they obviously were going to have to out it consistently later. Whereas a Miller claim is a big ole "not worth investigating me guise, I'm just gonna return a guilty".

As far as you specifically, I knew

someone

had said that their flavour related to their role earlier, but I actually thought it was Mirhawk until just now. You hadn't made much of an impact, had just been stubborn about not voting on wagons and I had a slight townlean on you which I was happy to see evolve. (As in, I didn't think of you at all when I decided to submit my cop.)

I thiink if you're not seeing me as town by now, there's not much I'm going to be able to do to sway you.

[True Ogre]

I feel like Seniors vs TPP is TvT actually.
I still want to murder Mirhawk btw.

QFT.

The confidence in their push is pretty hard to ignore. I'm happy with my vote.

[Friendless Seniors]

ogre cmon

[Axelrod]

Sorry people, I've got a raging headache and can barely function atm. I'll try to do something constructive tomorrow.