Newbie 1717: Newbies Through the Looking Glass (Game Over)

[Lycanfire]

Isn't the only real answer is that you've used this as a scumtactic before? Are you trying to be called on this?

Explain?

He's used the "i can scumread this player, lynch them" tactic as scum before on someone they usually try to lynch, then when his target flipped town nobody suspected him for it.

[Postie]

He's used the "i can scumread this player, lynch them" tactic as scum before on someone they usually try to lynch, then when his target flipped town nobody suspected him for it.

Link?

[Postie]

I mean, I've seen RC do that before, but it was accompanied by actual reasoning and... well, I'm not going to tell RC what not to do if he wants to fake something like that again in future in have me fall for it. What he's doing here, though, is kind-of asking people to be suspicious of him after an Accountant townflip. I'm pretty sure he's town.

[Simoyd]

Accountant is scum. stop voting people who aren't accountant and start voting people who are.

[Simoyd]

What he's doing here, though, is kind-of asking people to be suspicious of him after an Accountant townflip. I'm pretty sure he's town.

So then there was nothing wrong with my 209.

[Accountant]

@Simoyd: Just to avoid confusion, can you restate your case on me?

[Lycanfire]

He's used the "i can scumread this player, lynch them" tactic as scum before on someone they usually try to lynch, then when his target flipped town nobody suspected him for it.

Link?

Supposedly it's supposed to be Parfait Mafia as per his wiki but either the game was enterred in the wrong column or BlueBloodedToffee is in as an alt.

Alright so, I think Snoe was too busy waiting on my promised post to answer others, like RC's question to him. Unfortunately when I promised another post, I was waiting on seeing his opinions on Accountant to help me decide my own vote... Having nothing makes me think he gave up.

VOTE: Snoe

Mizzy played a little strangely sure, but I never did hate her, and Postie seems somewhat town. This is also probably the easiest slot to mislynch with Postie having no real defense to Mizzy's behavior.

The problem starts is that I would have been more moved if he had went for Accountant instead. Accountant has been acting scummy-his pressure on Grace was weird, then his case against Mizzy didn't convince me. Okay, that isn't scummy, but asking people to sheep your read doesn't do you favors. Personally I work too damn hard to pressure and asking people to ignore my case that seemingly hasn't already convinced them in order to blindly sheep me is lazy. Is it lazy because there may have been no case strong enough against Mizzy at the time? In #171 he admits he has no chance at convincing RC otherwise, which made me roll my eyes, because it seems as if he knows others may not care, which makes me feel like he has no trust in his own case either. In my mind, acting like makes sense... If you know your target is innocent.

Defending IV was pretty bad in my eyes but as the game went on it became more and more clear that the chances of them being scum partners were slim to none. Regardless his eagerness to jump in here is weird.

I did like his answers in #164/#182. I was hoping he would say something dumb, but he didn't. However I really disliked #257. Like I said after that post, if it was a definitive answer I would be able to call his alignment. My problem with it not being definitive is that now I can't call his alignment.

So, why vote Snoe. Accountant did practically the same as Mizzy by admitting to trying to trying to build a wagon, with the implication that the case may not be good enough at all. My problem with Snoe is that he had a really easy target but chose the less complicated one. Postie can't defend Mizzy's actions, and there's been no real follow up in his Mizzy/Postie case. Since I feel it's near impossible for Snoe/Accountant to be partners, that would mean scum!Snoe knows Accountant is town, and Snoe may have felt like forcing a mislynch on the IC was too ambitious. This is what I was alluding to in my last post about him, and why I waited (RC asked him for his take on Accountant, we never received it since).

In conclusion, he has to die for not going for Accountant.

[Lycanfire]

By the way if we're going to repost cases and the like, please keep this in mind thanks

Deadline: (expired on 2016-06-22 07:25:57)

[Xalxe]

Vote Count 1.10

I don't think--
- Then you shouldn't talk.

Accountant

(3): Postie, RadiantCowbells, Simoyd

snoe

(3): Accountant, Harkonnen97, Lycanfire

Postie

(1): snoe

Lycanfire

(1): innocentvillager

Not Voting

: Grace

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-06-24 07:25:57)

*sigh*

Seeking replacements for both

Grace

and

snoe

, who requested replacement for personal reasons. Deadline is suspended until replacements are found.

[Simoyd]

@Simoyd: Just to avoid confusion, can you restate your case on me?

Today is really busy for me, but it sounds like we'll get an extension, so I'll post details on this tomorrow evening (~32 hours from now)

[innocentvillager]

Will catch up on this tonight, sorry

[Postie]

Since I feel it's near impossible for Snoe/Accountant to be partners,

Why's this? Sorry if you've already explained it; I'm finding your walls a bit hard to follow.

[RadiantCowbells]

Because he said so basically, as far as I can tell.

If we were to lynch Snoe I'd want to autolynch Lycan if he flipped town.

[Lycanfire]

Since I feel it's near impossible for Snoe/Accountant to be partners,

Why's this? Sorry if you've already explained it; I'm finding your walls a bit hard to follow.

Because Pants wanted Accountant lynched and sure didn't seem to care how or why.

[RadiantCowbells]

Since I feel it's near impossible for Snoe/Accountant to be partners,

Why's this? Sorry if you've already explained it; I'm finding your walls a bit hard to follow.

Because Pants wanted Accountant lynched and sure didn't seem to care how or why.

stahp.

[Lycanfire]

Um, no. That's a lot more concrete than the read you established from page 1, sorry.

[Postie]

Because Pants wanted Accountant lynched and sure didn't seem to care how or why.

near impossible for Snoe/Accountant to be partners

[RadiantCowbells]

can we just lynch lycan?

[Postie]

*shrug* As long as we lynch all of Accountant/Lycan/snoe at some point we should be good.

[Simoyd]

I'm not really happy with his responses either... Lycanfire: Is English your first language?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't see it as a first language issue I just think he's got really weird reads.

[Simoyd]

Accountant/Lycan/snoe

I feel like we have a really high chance of both scum being in those three as well.

[Simoyd]

I don't see it as a first language issue I just think he's got really weird reads.

I feel like his reads make some sense in a weird backwards convoluted way, but there are simpler ways to convey the same deductions. Makes me think he's hiding something and I wonder if that is because he's having difficulty expressing his thoughts or if he really is working around the secret...

[Harkonnen97]

Since I feel it's near impossible for Snoe/Accountant to be partners,

Why's this? Sorry if you've already explained it; I'm finding your walls a bit hard to follow.

I'm finding every single wall by eveyone a bit hard to follow. Sorry

[Simoyd]

@Harkonnen97: What's your read on IV and on Lycan?
@Accountant: What's your read on Lycan?