Micro 622: Queen Mafia GAME OVER

[BNL]

I also agree that Aristo's hammer was terrible, and basically a scumclaim, especially because there was a VC on the same page.

I generally don't buy "accidental" hammers.

[BNL]

then suddenly jumped to "if Wingback is scum, Postie is town."

No? I just said that I thought you were unlikely to be scum with Postie, because if you were scum I think Postie would be town.

Though admittedly, you

are

under my radar now, because I didn't like some parts of how you scumread Postie, particularly "Postie is obviously scum and that's why she's universally scumread".

[BNL]

we'll discuss this tomorrow

Why?

It's unlikely you'll be online before thread lock; I still want an answer tomorrow.

[Elyse]

GL or duppin for Aris' partner

[GuiltyLion]

I am online.

We'll discuss tomorrow

[GuiltyLion]

Like BNL your question is really busybee now that I think about it - I'm literally saying "hey let's talk about this tomorrow" and your post is like "I want you to explain that tomorrow!". Uh, duh, that's what I said.

[BNL]

No, I wanted you to explain why you wanted to discuss Fire's 511 tomorrow, not discuss that itself.

[GuiltyLion]

Well, too bad

[The Show Must Go On]

Votecount 1.23:

Postie (5): duppin, GuiltyLion, TellTaleHeart, Wingback, Aristophanes
Aristophanes (2): Elyse, Fire Assassin
GuiltyLion (1): Postie
Fire Assassin (0):
Elyse (0):
BulletNLynchproof (0):
Wingback (0):
TellTaleHeart (0):
duppin (0):

Not Voting (1): BulletNLynchproof

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-07-12 17:00:00).

Song:

Queen: Somebody To Love

Notes:

Hammer!

[The Show Must Go On]

Postie has been lynched! She was a

Loyal Doctor

.

The night has begun and will end (expired on 2016-07-13 12:00:00).

Please send in your night actions before then!

[The Show Must Go On]

Addendum:

Spoiler: Role PM:

You are a Loyal Doctor.
You are aligned with the Town.
Each night, you may target a player and protect them from all nightkills that would target them.
If you attempt to target a non-Town aligned player your action will fail. You will not be informed.
You win when all threats to the town are dead and at least one town member is alive.

[The Show Must Go On]

The day has begun!

Fire Assassin has been killed! He was a

Neighbour

.
Aristophanes has been killed! He was a

Mafia Goon

.

[The Show Must Go On]

Votecount 2.23:

GuiltyLion (0):
Elyse (0):
duppin (0):
BulletNLynchproof (0):
Wingback (0):
TellTaleHeart (0):

Not Voting (6): GuiltyLion, Elyse, duppin, BulletNLynchproof, Wingback, TellTaleHeart

With 6 alive it's 4 to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-07-27 15:00:00).

Song:

I Want to Break Free

Notes:

I don't need you.

[GuiltyLion]

I'm a vig, I shot Aristo

FA kill is odd to me, makes me think there's scum in the neighborhood or scum is very commonly townread. I'm probably game for a BNL lynch today, if that doesn't end it I'm happy to hear opinions on who I should shoot. Wingback felt very town to me in twilight and everyone else pushed on Aristophanes in a mostly convincing manner. If TTH or Elyse is scum then we're in for a rough go

[GuiltyLion]

pretty sure that was actually a hammer

I plan on rereading over night, but

if Postie flips scum

I would guess her partner is in {Aristophanes, Fire Assassin, Elyse}.

If Postie flips town

then I'm mostly working from the same pool, only I think Elyse is probably townier and it would make Aristophanes

more likely

to be scum for:
1) possible intentional hammer on a mislynch while faking ignorance of the hammer
2) means Postie wasn't WKing the slot

also, a reminder in twilight that

I am ascetic

, so don't target me with anything if you don't want it roleblocked

actually if Postie flips town then Wingback definitely needs to be considered, but Aristophanes would in any case still be scumread #1

also I realize that these posts felt clunky but the point was to leave a trail of people I was thinking about shooting. Once Postie confirmed she was town there was no way I wasn't gonna shoot Aristo.

[Wingback]

Here's the thing: the minute I saw Postie's flip, I expected a serial killer. Why would there be a role that exclusively protects town and not scum? I think having a town vig and a doc is plenty of town power. You don't need a mechanism to ensure that any vig shots on scum go through.

On the other hand, considering a serial killer plus two mafia in a Micro is a lot of potential kills to be flying around, it makes sense to have a doc that reduces the probability of town being night killed while not reducing the probability of cross-kills.

You claiming ascetic makes sense if you don't want potential investigatives on you. Why in the world would you as a vig claim ascetic? I suppose you may not have wanted to be roleblocked but that's something that applies to every PR in every game so it's nothing unusual. You had no reason to believe scum would roleblock you specifically.

The Aristo kill is null to me. If you wanted to claim vig, you had no choice. You were under heavy fire during twilight and I think you were banking on a pseudo-confirmation today to hopefully mislynch a town player and maybe get to three-way and win. None of your posts towards me in twilight suggest that you started to think I was townier than BNL. In fact, you explicitly said that if I was town, then Fire is scum. But when Fire flipped town, your suspicion should have been on me. Instead you go for BNL. You probably are completely convinced I'm the last scum and want to "mislynch" BNL which is hilarious because I'm town.

I'm going to re-read the game before putting down a vote but I'd like everyone to weigh in on GL's claim.

[GuiltyLion]

I'm ascetic vig lol

Since there's no way to convince you that I'm not SK (since if I were SK, I would play this exact way), why don't you tell me who you think Aristo's partner is first. Trivially it can't be me. I know there's no serial killer, so if we lynch the other scum today we win.

[duppin]

SK isn't possible in this setup. (it's confirmed 7:2)

Anyway, pretty sure TTH is town. GL is confirmed town. Thought Elyse was fairly town yesterday as well, which leaves me with Wingback and BNL.
Was leaning town on IPS, Wingback hasn't really said anything to change my mind while I'm completely null on BNL.

I'm pretty sure we just lynch Wingback and BNL in any order and the game is over. I don't think Elyse and TTH are with Aristo.

[duppin]

I'm ascetic vig lol

Since there's no way to convince you that I'm not SK (since if I were SK, I would play this exact way), why don't you tell me who you think Aristo's partner is first. Trivially it can't be me. I know there's no serial killer, so if we lynch the other scum today we win.

This normal setup is confirmed to have faction numbers 7:2.

You are confirmed

[GuiltyLion]

Oh sick I didn't even realize it was confirmed 7:2

#conftown

[Wingback]

Yeah, completely missed that part. Okay, so GL is confirmed. Off the top of my head, I think it's BNL but I need to re-read to be sure. That'll happen tonight or tomorrow once I'm caught up with my other games.

[duppin]

GL do you think I am town?

[GuiltyLion]

why would you ask conftown that question?

[Elyse]

VOTE: Wingback

Lol

Glad Fire was killed cause I thought he might be scum.

Wingback trying to push that bs on GL is laughable. Reads to me as scum planning on pushing GL and getting their plans foiled.

If it's not Wingback I'd guess duppin over BNL but I'd have to reread.

[duppin]

why would you ask conftown that question?

I'm asking you because I believe the game is auto. If you think I'm likely scum, then you don't need to include me in the auto. I'm pretty sure Elyse and TTH aren't ever with Aristo.